Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/SSH Communications Security

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The result was redirect to Secure Shell#History and development. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:22, 24 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline and the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (companies) requirement. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant English-language coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar. Finnish wiki article is of little help and most sources cited are press releases, their rewrites, mentions in passing and reports on routine operations. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 09:23, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I find dozens of hits with "SSH Communications Security" in Helsingin Sanomat search results, almost all are paywalled and in Iltasanomat is.fi search results. I haven't had time to research the hits yet, but I just wanted to comment before there are votes based only on the nomination. -kyykaarme (talk) 11:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Kyykaarme: We have time (at least several days) and can wait for you to access and review the sources. Do you think you'll be able to do it within a week or so? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First a speedy, then a prod and now an AfD, all from the same editor. The Banner talk 15:38, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe because the article looks like spam? GizzyCatBella🍁 02:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete fails WP:NCORP the sources are almost exclusively press releases and company listings, the only one that isn't (Cyber scoop) deals with the Ylonen and makes a passing mention of the subject calling it a product and not a company. --Dom from Paris (talk) 09:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep as a publicly listed company that, in December 2000, was the focus of an article about high expectations related to its listing by the Helsingin Sanomat: [1]. It didn't turn out to be a major company, although it's still listed, but it's a part of the IT industry history, as SSH is a notable technology and the founder Tatu Ylönen (which is redirect here) is a fairly notable inventor. Although an equally good option would be that Ylönen would have his own article and this would be a redirect there. --Pudeo (talk) 19:18, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Pudeo: Just a note that being listed is by itself not good enough, see WP:LISTED. But yes, coverage like [2] could be helpful, but I can't read this, since it seems paywalled. Can anyone comment on whether this source is reliable and in-depth? --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 04:18, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Yes. But after the IT boom the sources are a lot more scarce. --Pudeo (talk) 21:40, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep The founder redirects here and is notable unless a namespace is created for him.Manabimasu (talk) 15:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • WP:NOTINHERITED. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 00:46, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I've taken some time to search for sources in various languages. For listed companies, it is usually fairly easy to see if they've been covered by an analyst report but I cannot find anything that meets the criteria for establishing notability. Most of the references are PR and company announcements, basis financial stuff, nothing that meets the criteria for "Independent Content" as per WP:ORGIND. As such, topic fails GNG and WP:NCORP. HighKing⁺⁺ 18:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Secure_Shell#History_and_development, where the company is mentioned in a historical context. I agree that the company probably does not rise to the level of GNG notability. Nonetheless, the company and its founder are important in the history of the Secure Shell protocol. Both are mentioned in the history section of the Secure Shell article with what I think are due weight. Basic facts are verifiable and this is a plausible search term. Hence, redirect. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 21:57, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep or redirect: per those arguments above. Djm-leighpark (talk) 18:14, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.