Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaimaa Gamal

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep and move‎ which I will do post-close. Star Mississippi 01:57, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Shaimaa Gamal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)

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Non-notable TV presenter, fails GNG ☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 06:23, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

● Shimaa Gamal's murder got much more attention in Arabic media than in English media. The case was shocking because she was a TV presenter, and her husband, a senior judge, was involved. The crime's brutality kept it a major topic in the Arab world, while English media cover was limited . Mohamed Ouda (talk) 08:05, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Television, and Egypt. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 07:37, 5 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mohamed Ouda, it doesn't matter about the coverage based on language. Give some references about her even if is Arab media. --☮️Counter-Strike:Mention 269🕉️^{(🗨️ ● ✉️ ● 📔)} 10:01, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@CSMention269 Sure here is some references

1. "المذيعة شيماء جمال..النيابة المصرية تتهم قاضيا معروفا بقتلها وإخفاء جثتها في مزرعة". BBC News عربي (in Arabic). 2022-06-28. Retrieved 2025-03-06.
2. "مصر.. حكم نهائي بإعدام القاضي قاتل زوجته الإعلامية شيماء جمال وشريكه". CNN Arabic (in Arabic). 2024-07-08. Retrieved 2025-03-06.
3. "تفاصيل القضية من البداية.. الحكم بإعدام القاضي قاتل زوجته المذيعة في مصر". Skynewsarabia (in Arabic). Retrieved 2025-03-06.
4. "الإعدام شنقا لقاض مصري وشريكه في جريمة قتل المذيعة شيماء جمال". Aljazeera.net (in Arabic). Retrieved 2025-03-06.
5. "MSN". www.msn.com. Retrieved 2025-03-06.

Mohamed Ouda (talk) 11:30, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Move -- After seeing the coverage shared by Mohamed Ouda, it looks to me like she might fall into WP:BIO1E & WP:CRIME territory. She does not necessarily meet notability guidelines as a TV presenter, but potentially does as a victim. A quick Google search showed me significant coverage in English of her murder, the ensuing trial, and the death sentence for her husband--I'd say that her murder meets GNG. However, it might be more appropriate to move to an article about the murder, as WP:CRIME recommends those articles over biographies of crime victims. It might be a keep if not moved. ~Malvoliox (talk | contribs) 22:45, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:19, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Move: to an article about the murder as suggested seems like a better choice, there is ample coverage about the event, rather than just about the individual. Oaktree b (talk) 02:00, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Please discuss about moving this article on the article's page after this nomination was closed as kept ever. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:01, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
• An AFD discussion can't close as a Move which is an editing decision, not a deletion decision. If that is your desired outcome, argue to "Keep" and then have a Move discussion. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:48, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.