Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sharon Rich
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep the main article; merge the others; I rely on Cunard or Arxiloxos or I, JethroBT or one of the others supporting the merge to do so. As the other will become redirects, no deletions are necessary. . DGG ( talk ) 03:11, 31 January 2015 (UTC)
- Sharon Rich (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log · Stats)
- Jeanette MacDonald Autobiography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Jeanette MacDonald: The Irving Stone Letters (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Nelson Eddy: The Opera Years (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Mac/Eddy Today (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This is a WP:Walled garden of articles about Sharon Rich and her works on Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy. For only one of Rich's works, Sweethearts (book), have I been able to find any third-party coverage at all. All the others, created and/or heavily edited by User:Maceddy, only cite primary sources, with a promotional undertone, with no improvement for years. No indication of notability for Rich herself or any of her works beyond Sweethearts. Huon (talk) 17:42, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
Delete allI was able to dig a little bit on Rich and Sweethearts through the LA Times:- Two of these already appear on the Sweethearts (book) article. The first one is very substantive, but is mostly about the book and its development. That said, sources are generally sparse. Her name does not appear on the Knights Hospitallers website and I cannot confirm her Order of Malta award either. I don't see enough here for a biography, nor is there sufficient coverage of the other works. I, JethroBT drop me a line 19:49, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect all to Sweethearts: The Timeless Love Affair Onscreen and Off Between Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
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Keepper the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.- Turner, Patricia C. (1993-10-18). "Hearing Their Love Call". The Star-Ledger. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
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- Yampert, Rick de (2004-05-21). "Author claims to reveal 'Hollywood's biggest cover-up'". The Daytona Beach News-Journal. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
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- Bawden, Jim (1996-05-17). "Screen lovebirds took roles to heart". Toronto Star. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
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- Brozan, Nadine (1995-02-17). "Chronicle". The New York Times. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
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Cunard (talk) 05:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Turner, Patricia C. (1993-10-18). "Hearing Their Love Call". The Star-Ledger. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
- Keep Sharon Rich and merge/redirect the rest of the nominated articles to Sharon Rich. Cunard (talk) 05:21, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Here is an article about Mac/Eddy Today:
Johnson, Sharon (1993-10-15). "Newsletter arrives // All you wanted to know about Eddy, MacDonald". The Patriot-News. Archived from the original on 2015-01-07. Retrieved 2015-01-07.
If another source about Mac/Eddy Today could be found, the subject would be notable.
Cunard (talk) 05:36, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Here is an article about Mac/Eddy Today:
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 10:58, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
Whether Sharon Rich is truly all that notable in and of herself is debatable, but the topics of Nelson Eddy and Jeanette MacDonald, which apparently constitute the bulk of her life's work, are most definitely notable so this pushes the discussion slightly toward KEEP imo, since she has gone to incredible lengths in the study of her topics, even going so far as to edit a book of letters between MacDonald and a pre-Eddy lover, one Irving Stone, not the writer but an early 20th century department store owner. Since she has created lots of factual content about famous people, I would say KEEP, since there is an article on Clifford Irving, whose most famous work was a bogus bio of another prominent Hollywood person, Howard Hughes. 2600:1004:B11B:BD40:6119:7316:FF63:1A49 (talk) 13:53, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, B E C K Y S A Y L E S 09:42, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
- Merge and redirect to Sharon Rich - After reviewing the above arguments from Cunard, I agree that the biographical article on Rich does fulfill the notability criteria, and that the other articles up for deletion here can be merged or redirected to her bio page. Sweethearts can probably remain as an independent article. I, JethroBT drop me a line 15:39, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Aerospeed (Talk) 02:34, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
- Keep Sharon Rich, merge the other AfD'd articles, per Cunard. --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:05, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
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