Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Spite (sentiment)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Original rationale for nomination was valid, but subsequent improvements, and the coverage provided during the AfD, strongly support the argument to keep; the !votes to delete no longer carry the weight they would have done. Vanamonde (Talk) 02:19, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spite (sentiment)

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An article for the definition of word would be best on the wiki dictionary site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fxmastermind (talk • contribs) 11:41, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2022 September 24. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 04:46, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete WP:NOTDICT Retinalsummer (talk) 07:11, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. BilletsMauves^€500 09:38, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. Fxmastermind (talk) 02:16, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Move to draft. Spite, obviously, exists as a psychological state, and is well-plumbed as a character motivation in literature. I believe this can be expanded into an article covering these things. We are certainly no stranger to covering comparable states like Resentment, Outrage (emotion), and Contempt. BD2412 T 04:25, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I was going to close this as Delete but last minute comment by BD2412 has me wondering if there is any support for a possible article here.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Keep and expand I agree with BD2412's comments about how this a valid topic, but the article as it stands it rather limited. JesseW, the juggling janitor 14:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Weak delete I'm not sure there's quite enough not-dictionary information on the concept of "spite", because it's harder to define than emotions like "outrage", which have a much clearer definition. It's also an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS issue; outrage (emotion) seems fairly SYNTH-y to me. Could also merge to Anger per WP:PRESERVE. Ovinus (talk) 15:16, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The larger issue is once you start deleting word definitions, thousand of other obvious words would be deleted. If you allow Wikipedia to become a dictionary, tens of thousands of words could be added. Currently WP is both dictionary, encyclopedia and fan pages. It is also missing a lot of things that actually exist, while at the same time has countless pages about things that do not exist. This is a matter much larger than spite of course. I'm aware that it is frowned upon to introduce other matters in a discussion about turning a living idea into a Dead body, but it's actually more like vaporizing something when a page is deleted.Fxmastermind (talk) 10:09, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think this comment misses the point that Wikipedia is not a dictionary, but that the concept of "spite" occuring in history and literature goes beyond a dictionary definition. BD2412 T 03:38, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes WP:SIGCOV. Spite as a sentiment has been studied in psychology/ medicine. This article could be expanded with references including these below; some of which I have used to improve the article already.4meter4 (talk) 18:18, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

David K Marcus, Virgil Zeigler-Hill, Sterett H Mercer, Alyssa L Norris (February 17, 2014). "The psychology of spite and the measurement of spitefulness". National Library of Medicine. doi:10.1037/a0036039.{{cite journal}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
Marcus, D. K., & Norris, A. L. (2016). V. Zeigler-Hill & D. K. Marcus (ed.). "The dark side of personality: Science and practice in social, personality, and clinical psychology". American Psychological Association: 121–133. doi:10.1037/14854-007. {{cite journal}}: Cite journal requires |journal= (help)CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
"Why We Behave Spitefully: Spitefulness is expensive. So why do we do it?". Psychology Today. October 9, 2021.
Leon F. Seltzer (June 19, 2019). "Spite: What We Do for the Sweet Sake of Revenge". Psychology Today.
"Psychological study of spite: 'Virtually ignored' by researchers". ScienceDaily. April 23, 2014.
Maanvi Singh (April 23, 2014). "Why Are We Spiteful, Even Though It Bites Us Back?". NPR.

Keep. The article has been expanded past the dicdef stage, and the sourcing above illustrates the availability of quality material to develop the article. All else is an editing concern. Xymmax ^{So let it be written} _{So let it be done} 01:06, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.