Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sreenidhi FC

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The result was keep. Fenix down (talk) 07:46, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sreenidhi FC

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Not a professional club. Can be created next year if it plays in the I-League, a professional league per WP:FPL. Also fails notability as organisation. Drat8sub (talk) 03:29, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 05:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 05:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Per creator's arguments, it seems the article is WP:CRYSTALBALL & can be WP:NOTNEWS. Drat8sub (talk) 07:15, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: the club became notable from yesterday after their i-league entry was announced by aiff. it will be in sports news from now on it's already in goal.com, sportstar the hindu etc.) and multiple events like player scouting, team building etc. will also be there. WP:FPL is for football player articles. Otherwise there are many football club articles not playing in WP:FPL. ❯❯❯ S A H A 05:43, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First read carefully, FPL mentioned for showing there are only two pro leagues in India, and the club does not play in any."It will be in sports news from now on" is called Crystalball and simply wikipedia is NOTNEWS. "Notable from yesterday after their i-league entry", again WP:NOTNP and entry is from 2021-22 not now. There is no independent source describing the club, nowhere near to notability, a single story of future entry in I-league does not make notable. The Notability Criteria are very clear and bright, Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject is not sufficient to establish notability. It can be created next year after getting entry or sigcov. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 07:03, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

in FPL, its mentioned "Players who have played, and managers who have managed in a competitive game"
many clubs have articles, but still not in FLP
no where its said, this article will be used as a newspaper. all clubs have their notable events, dates mentioned. how is this WP:NOTNEWS?
not WP:Crystal since media have already written regarding the club. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. ❯❯❯ S A H A 07:47, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think you failed to undersrand why FLP have been mentioned, clearly to show the club is not playing in any professional league in India and an amateur club formed recently expected hardly to have a notability. "media have already written regarding the club", show citations of major footballing websites and newspapers describing the club, independent of "the incidental" one line news of getting entry in I-League which is a copy paste of AIFF press release (this is not notability). If non pro club exists please be sure they have notability and sigcov. Drat8sub (talk) 08:10, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

dont know, how these exist... AU Rajasthan FC, Garhwal F.C., ARA F.C.. all these are based on a single event only... ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:09, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

OTHER Stuff Exists should be avoided, against five pillars of wikipedia. Talk about this article only. Drat8sub (talk) 10:20, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is a comparison. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:22, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That is exactly what WP:OTHER is and you just did that, should not have done here. The guideline is crystal clear. Drat8sub (talk) 10:26, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
that's what I want to know/clarify. if this exist, why not this? policies are the same for every article. ❯❯❯ S A H A 10:32, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - no crystal ballery here as the club has been confirmed as playing in a national league this coming season Spiderone 09:35, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Club is not playing in the coming season i.e, 2020-21 but it will be playing in 2021-22, one and half year from now. Creating articles on future event will be Crystalball and also can't be created just for a news per NOTNEWS. Thank you. Drat8sub (talk) 10:14, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - the nomination is fundamentally flawed, as it talks about WP:FPL (fully-professional leagues) - which has nothing to do with whether articles exist for football clubs. The majority of articles in Wikipedia for football clubs are for teams that aren't in fully professional leagues - FPL exists to judge players, not teams. Normally articles are created when new teams are announced as joining a FPL league - as invariably there is significant coverage meeting GNG. Nothing unusual here, and we again see such GNG coverage. Nfitz (talk) 04:24, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Giant Snowman 15:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per arguments above, CTYSTALBALL does not apply. Giant Snowman 15:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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