Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stock Arena

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. I leave renaming to the normal process for that, which should be easy since the suggested target is a redlink and there doesn't seem to be much controversy about the proposed move. RL0919 (talk) 17:20, 14 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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A small, rarely used, and non-notable arena located in a county fairground. Search results show no information other than a primary source and scant mentions for events in the local newspaper. —Notorious4life (talk) 16:41, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 16:56, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Non-notable facility and article reads like an advertisement. sixtynine ^{• whaddya want? •} 16:58, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • • It does not, IMHO. --Doncram (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Non-notable big metal building which acts as a fairgrounds arena with odd comparisons to actual arenas (and out of date as Joe Lewis Arena no longer exists). Nate • (chatter) 22:01, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • • It mentions other structures, current and former, of the larger fair / fairgrounds, showing its suitability to being expanded and moved to cover the larger fair/fairgrounds. --Doncram (talk) 22:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • Comment Honestly before my vote! I was bending towards a rename since the article does describe the fairgrounds more than the arena itself and is better expanded with the latter, but I just didn't know if it had the support; you make a good case with a WP:RESCUE with an expansion of scope. Thus, Keep and rename to Monroe County Fairgrounds. Nate • (chatter) 06:47, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, but probably move to Monroe County Fairgrounds (currently a redlink), which is more surely notable, and expand. Keep a redirect to the section in the expanded article about this structure. Individual county or state fairground buildings or venues can be individually notable, but they're better first covered in a higher level article about the fair/fairgrounds itself. The article appears to try to link to the larger topic but the phrase "Monroe County Fairgrounds" there is in fact two links to Monroe County, Michigan and to general Fairgrounds instead. Do let's fix the bigger situation, not go backwards. We are obligated to seek alternatives to deletion and this is a reasonable, available option. I say "Keep" rather than "Move" because the latter is not a proper AFD outcome. --Doncram (talk) 22:42, 8 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: I contemplating renaming the article to Monroe County Fairground or creating the article myself, but the question arises, "Does the Monroe County Fairground meet the requirements for article creation?" Most counties have a fairground, and nothing about the Monroe County Fairground seems notable or well-published enough to warrant a standalone article. There are not enough sources for information, aside from primary sources and a few local newspaper articles of minimal substance. If the article is moved in its current form to a new name, that does not address the issues that brought it here in the first place. I would like the information to be saved and improved, and my suggestion (and it's just an opinion), is to redirect and create a section in the main Monroe County, Michigan article. —Notorious4life (talk) 13:28, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to Monroe County Fairgrounds. Agree with Doncram on this one. The fairgrounds are notable. It wasn't hard to find articles like this. I searched in Newspapers.com and found 1000 hits. Although most are trivial (mentions of events being held there - a lot of dog shows), I assume there must be more like the above. Since we can't really merge to a redlink, I really mean Move, which in this case accomplishes the same thing. Hopefully, the article would eventually be expanded to cover more than this arena. MB 05:55, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move per Doncram. --RaviC (talk) 12:56, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.