Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Syed Muhammad Asim

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Yunshui ^雲_水 12:32, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Procedural nomination per WP:DRAFTIFY after a draftification was reverted. Draftifying reason was

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:35, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:35, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 11:35, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Meh. If he has actually—provenly—played first-class cricket, then he automatically passes WP:NCRIC. On the other hand, if he doesn't, then I want to know more about the teams that he supposedly has played for. We don't seem to have an article on any of them: indeed, one of them appears to ba a bank, with no mention of cricket in its article. What gives? ——SerialNumber54129 12:41, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is a Habib Bank Limited cricket team, but can't find any evidence he ever played for them either ([1]). Spike 'em (talk) 12:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Can find no record of him being a first-class or List-A cricketer (so have removed claims from article). No record of him on Cricinfo Pakistani players list or cricketarchive Quetta list using any of "Syed Muhammad Asim", "Muhammad Asim" or Syed Muhammad, so he fails WP:NCRIC. No evidence that he passes WP:GNG, a google search finds just his twitter account. It seems to be an autobiography with some made up / exaggerated claims. Spike 'em (talk) 12:48, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - honestly can't confirm that this person actually exists. To me it looks like their Twitter account was hijacked by a spammer some time around April, who then also created a Facebook profile for them, and began using both accounts to spam links for a telephone service. Prior to that they have what you'd expect of a professional athlete's social media profile: selfies, game photos, memes about rival teams, and so on. But he does not say what teams he plays for in that profile, for one thing, and also his official website is offline, and the only link in the article that might have been a reference is broken. Plus what everyone else has said about not being able to figure out which teams he claims to have played for. I'd be fine with returning this to draft space if I had faith that the creator was going to find sources and improve it, but their "this is a celebrity" rationale for reverting the move is not promising in that regard. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:52, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Frankly, this article gives me Alejandro Almeida vibes. It seems to me that a user created this article as a hoax, similar to what I and a few other users dealt with over there. As you can see from the List of people from Quetta article, someone cunningly inserted the fictional cricketeer into other articles, creating the illusion of inbound and outbound links to this article without actually offering a scintilla of WP:RS to validate that the article meets the WP:GNG or that the subject even exists. 208.185.237.210 (talk) 14:13, 24 October 2019 (UTC)^{(CU blocked, ——SerialNumber54129 19:18, 24 October 2019 (UTC))}[reply]

• Delete – Even if this person exists there's a major COI since the creator of the article is the person the article is about. 90.232.32.184 (talk) 14:41, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Article has no reliable, independent sources, and I can't find anything myself in a good faith search. --Jayron32 15:30, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per all and the fact that the user who predominately wrote it also appears to be the subject. Regards, User:TheDragonFire300. (Contact me | Contributions). This message was left at 22:41, 24 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete I couldn't find any sources when I did a search for them. I'm not even convinced that this person exists. While the article was created by someone who has the same name first, middle, and last name as the subject, it weirdly is devoid of any basic facts as well. You would think someone writing an article about themselves would know the names of their own mother and father instead of leaving those fields as "Unknown" on the infobox... Michepman (talk) 01:36, 25 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete and salt - and did nobody notice that this is an autobio? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:49, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - Kudpung At least three users (myself, TheDragonFire300, Spike) noted that it was an autobiography and/or that the author and the article subject had the same exact name... Michepman (talk) 20:10, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, quite right. Sorry, I missed it when I briefly scanned through the votes. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 23:38, 26 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, per above , lacks coverage by reliable sources. Alex-h (talk) 11:54, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete "He might exist" is not a persuasive argument in favor of keeping the article. ——SN54129 15:04, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.