Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sylar

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. The Wordsmith^{Talk to me} 22:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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The page is just a plot with little to establish notability, everything in the article is interviwews and episode reviews Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:10, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Television. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:10, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Provisional Keep If you add the qualifier "heroes" to the Google Scholar search, the first six entries appear to be independent, non-trivial scholarly sources--books and journal articles. If you can examine and rebut all at least five of them, I will consider changing my !vote. Jclemens (talk) 02:38, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete: Largely unsourced fancruft. Fails GNG. If in the future sources for an article are written, a new article can be written. This has so much WP:OR/SYNTH fancruft any new article will need WP:TNT to clear the way.  // Timothy :: talk  21:04, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @TimothyBlue No WP:ATD-R even...? Why delete, not redirect? _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment. I concur this is to weak right now, but the odds are sources may exist, he was a major antagonist (and later IIRC protagonist?) of a long-running and popular series that isn't too forgotten yet. I am swamped right now with other stuff, but I exped Siroxo or Daranios can find some stuff. A quick GScholar search suggests there is hope. Ping me if sources are found (or not...) and I'll be happy to cast a proper vote. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 08:14, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  Thanks for the ping. I do see SIGCOV for this character in academic and educational books:

  1. Don Adams, Chapter 14 of Introducing Philosophy Through Pop Culture, Wiley. (also published by Wiley in Heroes and Philosophy) This chapter has a subsection titled "The Virtue that Sylar Lacks" and discusses the subject in depth. Examples:
  2. In Investigating Heroes, McFarland several essays seem to have SIGCOV. Here's an example from "'You're Broken. I Can Fix You': Negotiating Concepts of U.S. Ideology" by Torsten Caeners
  3. Lynette Porter's Tarnished Heroes, Charming Villains and Modern Monsters, McFarlandand
  4. Daniel Whiting's "Is Abrams’s Star Trek a Star Trek Film?" in The Philosophy of J.J. Abrams, University Press of Kentucky:
  5. Saving The World by Lynnette Porter, David Lavery and Hillary Robson, ECW Press, eg:and

  —siroχo 22:58, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  @Siroxo Nice. Consider my vote now keep. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:44, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. Meets WP:GNG per my reply above. —siroχo 22:59, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Neznám pravidla anglické Wikipedie, znám jenom českou Wikipedii. Ale Elle Bishopová byla jen vedlejší postava ve druhé řadě a v první polovině třetí řady, a přitom článek Elle Bishop se stal dobrým článkem. Sylar byl jednou z nejdůležitějších postav celého seriálu, která herce Zacharyho Quinta proslavila po celém světě a která byla zařazena mezi nejlepší fiktivní vrahy, jak je uvedeno v článku, a která zřejmě inspirovala další fiktivní postavy (kněz a vrah Guillermo Ortiz ze seriálu Doteky osudu), a článek Sylar má být smazán? Směšné… Omlouvám se za češtinu, neumím anglicky. (Překlad z češtiny do angličtiny od Překladače Google / Translation from Czech to English by Google Translate: I don't know the rules of the English Wikipedia, I only know the Czech Wikipedia. But Elle Bishop was only a minor character in series two and the first half of series three, and yet the Elle Bishop article became a good article. Sylar was one of the most important characters of the entire series, which made the actor Zachary Quinto famous all over the world, and who was ranked among the best fictional killers, as mentioned in the article, and who apparently inspired other fictional characters (priest and murderer Guillermo Ortiz from the series Touches of Fate) , and the Sylar article to be deleted? Ridiculous… Sorry for the Czech language, I don't know English.) --Marek Genius (talk) 10:55, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Sources suggested by Jclemens and laid out by Siroxo are enough to establish notability in my view. The nomination only refers to the status of the article as it is now, which is not the decisive factor as explained in WP:ARTN. The WP:BEFORE search required for a deletion nomination should have included a thorough look at accessible sources. Daranios (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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