Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/TIC-80

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The result was keep. ✗plicit 14:15, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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WP:BEFORE shows the subject thoroughly fails WP:GNG. The most notable (and only) mention of this subject from a reliable, independent source is this article from Hackaday – an article which contains absolutely no information about the subject other than that it exists and therefore can't possibly be construed as contributing to notability. Essentially the only reason I brought this here is that the article has been edited heavily and almost exclusively (albeit fairly neutrally) by TIC-80's developer, thereby making it highly likely that a PROD would be rejected outright. (Don't know how I messed this one up so badly; yutyo doesn't work on TIC-80. I think some wires got crossed when I checked their Github.) I have a huge soft spot for FOSS and emulation, so I hope this becomes notable in the future, but right now, the subject doesn't have a single source that confers any notability. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 12:03, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

TIC-80 is popular in demoparty, generally in retrocomputing category [=TIC-80 Pouet.net] (there is a problem with this link in MediaWiki, due to usage of special characters), DemoZoo. It is included in RetroArch. I added few books about it by Japanese authors. There are some article in Russian too.Popolon (talk) 13:24, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 12:13, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Here are some possible sources for you from the Internet Archive (which probably has even more) – good luck!
  • RetroMagazine, Vol. 2, Issue 9, p. 20 (Italian).
  • Plus "A Game Maker's Toolkit" in The MagPi, Issue 73 (September 2018) (English) – it's on p. 33.
  • Not enough for notability on its own, but while we're at it, how about the 200th issue of Retro Gamer magazine? p. 107. Cielquiparle (talk) 16:08, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Actually @TheTechnician27: – it looks like there is TONS [some] in Wikipedia Library, also more in depth, and in English! I really think you should be all set. (I'm never sure how to best embed all the Gale OneFile links but you can just do a general search on Wikipedia Library and they should all turn up.) Cielquiparle (talk) 16:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

OK the huge search result I got in Wikipedia Library initially was for related "retro gaming" articles in PC Week, etc., not necessarily mentioning TIC-80 (and also predating TIC-80). But I was still able to add a few articles from Beanz magazine to "Further reading", and also cited one of them. Cielquiparle (talk) 09:02, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@TheTechnician27 Is there something I missed that indicates @Comrade-yutyo is a developer? I'm fairly sure this is a different person who is not listed as a dev on the github. Afaik the primary dev is Vadim Grigoruk/Nesbox Strangerpete (talk) 22:49, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep in light of sufficient coverage from multiple independent, reliable sources conferring notability, including articles in Retro Magazine, Beanz magazine, and The MagPi magazine. Inline citations have been added to the article, and unsourced content has been moved to the Talk page. In addition, the "Further reading" section has been expanded with additional sources by Popolon, also in Japanese (in case anyone out there has access to those books). Happy to discuss further improvements on the article Talk page. Cielquiparle (talk) 10:30, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep it has been sufficiently referenced since the nomination. -Vipz (talk) 13:37, 16 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep after the added sources and the notability in demoscene.Popolon (talk) 17:40, 18 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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