Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ted Unkel

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If this clearly fails GNG then we don't keep a BLP unless there is an agreed policy that they are inherently notable. That isn't the case here so arguments to delete due to failing GNG are the policy based opinions Spartaz ^Humbug! 22:31, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ted Unkel

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Fails WP:GNG, hasn't been the subject of significant coverage in reliable sources. Also fails WP:NFOOTY - hasn't played or coached in a fully professional league or at international level Hack (talk) 04:48, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep As has been pointed out numerous times in discussions, referees don't apply to WP:NFOOTY. Unkel doesn't fail WP:GNG because he has officiated two major finals in the US, and has been noted for this on websites such as mlssoccer.com and SB Nation team pages. Tedinboston (talk) 17:46, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But WP:GNG requires the subject of the article to have extensive coverage from reliable third-party sources and Unkel doesn't seem to have this. Spiderone 15:26, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Per discussion at WT:NSPORT, WT:FOOTY, and WT:NFOOTY, referees must satisfy WP:GNG as there is no inherent notability in their position. All references cited in the article and the items I find on Google are merely WP:ROUTINE coverage, thus GNG is not met. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 20:17, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I'd say refereeing the national cup final in a league/nation as media-saturated as the MLS/US/Canada is enough to assume notability. Giant Snowman 20:20, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

To be honest, I didn't even know that the 2015 Lamar Hunt U.S. Open Cup Final had occurred yet, and I only live a few hours drive from Philadelphia. Even then, very little of the coverage of football (association or American) mentions the names of the officiating crew except the official reports, or perhaps at the very beginning of the broadcast, which is still considered routine. — Jkudlick ^tc_s 20:31, 15 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – I think the author of the article failed in his/her effort to give more information about this referee. One or two sentences to describe someone in an article is completely inadequate. I have not seen any effort to expand the article during this AFD process by the author or anyone else. --♥Golf (talk) 13:20, 17 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Improvements made to make the enhance the article. Clearly notable due to multiple final appointments. USA Refereeing (talk) 16:05, 18 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Sam Sailor ^Talk! 16:47, 22 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - He reffed the US Open Cup final [1]. Nfitz (talk) 20:16, 24 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But does this mean that the article passes WP:GNG? Spiderone 15:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per Jkudlick's !vote above... exactly my thoughts. JMHamo (talk) 00:26, 25 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - it is not policy for every referee that has refereed a national cup final to have an article. At this moment, nobody is disputing that this article fails WP:GNG so I'm leaning towards delete. Spiderone 15:25, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.