Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Testify (Christian band)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 22:47, 10 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Have been watching this develop, but despite early tags for notability and referencing, no refs of any substance have appeared. WP:BEFORE finds very little beyond affiliate refs, I guess they were too early for much social media although Facebook is there with an identical image to the one in this article. A strong suggestion of COI editing perhaps. Without any reliable and independent refs, this fails WP:GNG  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   19:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletion discussions.  Velella  ^{Velella Talk}   19:25, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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• Delete I was going to nominate it for deletion if/when Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brent Swanner was closed as delete. I agree with Velella: I don't see much sign of significant coverage in independent sources. The current references certainly don't qualify: 5 discogs links, 1 Apple Music, two from Tower Records, one CD Universe, two links that don't mention the band (they mention their producer and in fact, one is about the producer's wife!) and a concert announcement in a church bulletin. That's way too thin for WP:GNG or WP:BAND. Pichpich (talk) 20:39, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Notability Guidelines. Testify (Christian band) has ten major label recordings and is made notable by Wikipedia's Notability Guidelines for music and musicians 113andathird (talk) 22:19, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See the AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brent Swanner for an explanation of why CD Baby is not and should not be considered a major record label. I won't rehash the whole thing here. Pichpich (talk) 04:46, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I saw that too and have agreed that I was wrong. That still leaves four recording under major label. SonSound/SonSound Masterpiece was a Southern Gospel Label out of Bessemmer City, NC in the 1990s and 2000s. Chapel was out of Brentwood, TN and is now called Spring Hill Music Group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113andathird (talk • contribs) 12:04, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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• Delete, since this band lacks significant coverage. Pikavoom ^Talk 07:09, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Tentative keep as there is possible offline coverage, as discussed over at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Brent_Swanner by JSFarman. I think we need to wait and see whether this coverage is sufficient. -- Pingumeister^(talk) 15:24, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment In my experience, Christian/gospel artists receive little coverage in secular media, and non-secular media isn't significantly available via digital archives. I found only four in-depth articles on Testify. However, three of the four are from Louisiana publications and the band is from West Monroe, LA.

• "Christian vocal trio sings praises" January 8, 2010, Fort Polk Guardian (LA), Chuck Cannon; Section: entertainment
• "Keeping the Faith" February 24, 2000, Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) Page: 20H3
• "Meeting people where they're hurting is ministry of Testify" August 5, 2006, Tribune Business News, Griffin, Pam
• "Southern gospel sound uplifts its audience" June 19, 2006, Haag, Diane. The Times; Shreveport, LA D.1.

I'm commenting rather than weighing in because I am truly undecided! JSFarman (talk) 21:19, 17 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"and non-secular media isn't significantly available via digital archives." I am finding this to be very true. Can you tell me where you found these articles above and can a novice like me access them? 113andathird (talk) 11:12, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 113andathird, I'll respond on your talk page. JSFarman (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That being said, I have recently made a lot of changes. And there will be more to come. Please let me know how this effects things and would love anymore advice you all would be willing to give.113andathird (talk) 12:33, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of additional sources found and others have been updated. Recordings on major labels. Sources siting award nominees and a song in a Top 40 Chart of the genres most notable magazine, The Singing News. (if I could find and Archive of The Singing News charts or the above cited source was updated there would be a lot more Top 40 songs listed and cited.) 113andathird (talk) 21:40, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep as a large number of reliable regional newspaper sources have been added to the article so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view, Atlantic306 (talk) 18:17, 22 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star Mississippi 03:04, 23 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – AssumeGoodWraith (talk | contribs) 23:35, 3 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per WP:GNG: the references mentioned by JSFarman constitute significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.. StAnselm (talk) 01:12, 6 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per GNG Iamreallygoodatcheckers (talk) 05:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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