Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/USCV-4

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The result was redirect to Commercial Crew Program. Sandstein 17:43, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Fails WP:CRYSTAL and probably has a dose of WP:Original research. The source mentioned does not mention the mission, and I can find no other sources. The article could be recreated when more sources about the mission can be found. Lettler^hello 03:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Aviation-related deletion discussions. Lettler^hello 03:51, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Sources mentioned do mention USCV 1-6 and mention the destination providers and purpose of the missions. Sources do mention mission. Nothing there is an unverifiable claim. Will add more to citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganBlade (talk • contribs) 05:04, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• If this article is crystal ball and unacceptable then this one must be outrageous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Crew_Program#ISS_crew_rotation_flights — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganBlade (talk • contribs) 05:19, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment: The new sources have been looked through. I searched the first, third and fourth sources and found no mention of USCV-4 or any other missions. I found only one mention of USCV-4 online, which was in a forum with no clear source. https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=32006.940

In response to your second comment, USCV-1, USCV-2, and USCV-3 have good coverage in reliable news sources. USCV-4 does not. Lettler^hello 14:13, 12 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commercial_Crew_Program#ISS_crew_rotation_flights — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoganBlade (talk • contribs) 22:17, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Keep, It's an upcoming mission. - Hatchens (talk) 14:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect for now – USCV-2, USCV-3, and USCV-4 are mostly constructed on uncited conjecture and assumptions, which are simply not acceptable per guidelines against "crystal balling". A lot of confusion about the crew manifest has been caused by these articles in particular; it'd be in our best interests to leave these articles as redirects to Commercial Crew Program for now until a more significant amount of sources and information are available for us to use to verify certain claims. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 04:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect for now per above --Cornellier (talk) 12:26, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect (all)(see below) for now as per nom and PhilipTerryGraham's rationale. All we really know is that the first operational NASA Crew flight is SpaceX's crew-1. Once NASA clarifies (or we get a good source) redirects may be a good idea. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 17:20, 2 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@OkayKenji: I will say, at the very least, for the USCV-2 article on the Boeing Starliner-1 mission, we have reliable sources to say that it'll be flying Calypso with Cassada and Williams aboard, so I retract my suggestion to redirect that particular article, but I stick by the opinion that the other two articles should be redirected. – PhilipTerryGraham (talk · articles · reviews) 04:27, 3 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Cmt Posted a link this dissuasion over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight. OkayKenji ^{(talk page)} 17:24, 2 June 2020 (UTC) [reply]
• Retarget per PTG. --Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 06:12, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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