Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Unai Elgezabal
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The result was delete--Ymblanter (talk) 08:40, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
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Contested PROD. Concern was Article about a footballer who fails WP:GNG and who has not played in a fully pro league. PROD was contested by the article's creator without providing a decent reason. MYS77 ✉ 02:10, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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- Delete - He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 13:20, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for now Alcorcón kick their Segunda División campaign off tonight. If he plays he will meet notability requirements. If not, then a delete would be in order.Liam E. Bekker (talk) 06:35, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Liam E. Bekker: First match already played, and Elgezabal was an unused substitute. MYS77 ✉ 02:39, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete I think playing in one game is too low a standard to make footballers notable, at least two games should be required.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:39, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Johnpacklambert: You've created a lot of AfDs related to footballers, and there's no such thing as "a game is too low standard". Player notability must respect or WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTY, and the latter one passes when the player appear in a single match in a division considered fully professional. Please take that in mind. Ah, and Elgezabal did not appear in any professional division during his career yet. MYS77 ✉ 02:26, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Absurdly low inclusion standards can and should be contested. One of the rules of Wikipedia is that consensus can change.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Johnpacklambert: To propose a change you have to gather a consensus at WT:FOOTY. If you point is accepted by the community, then we can take this under consideration for the following creations. Until that, you'll have to respect the current consensus. MYS77 ✉ 02:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Agree with MYS, the reason the subject specific guideline is set at one is to avoid discussions like this. Why not three matches for example? GNG is still the important guideline and there are plenty of examples of players who pass NFOOTY who are later deleted as they then went on to do very little. Fenix down (talk) 16:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Johnpacklambert: To propose a change you have to gather a consensus at WT:FOOTY. If you point is accepted by the community, then we can take this under consideration for the following creations. Until that, you'll have to respect the current consensus. MYS77 ✉ 02:41, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Absurdly low inclusion standards can and should be contested. One of the rules of Wikipedia is that consensus can change.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- @Johnpacklambert: You've created a lot of AfDs related to footballers, and there's no such thing as "a game is too low standard". Player notability must respect or WP:GNG or WP:NFOOTY, and the latter one passes when the player appear in a single match in a division considered fully professional. Please take that in mind. Ah, and Elgezabal did not appear in any professional division during his career yet. MYS77 ✉ 02:26, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone 13:00, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - Fails NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Article can readily be restored if he actually plays. I invite editors to contact me for that very purpose. Fenix down (talk) 16:25, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
- Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 18:59, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
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