Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vem Miller

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The result was delete. Sandstein 19:18, 12 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Vem Miller

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Does not appear to meet WP:GNG. Only sources available are passing mentions or press releases; no in-depth coverage seems to be out there. Yunshui 雲水 16:02, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 16:03, 28 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]


  • Keep I found these pictures with Vem Miller working with the likes of Jerry Seinfeld, John Mayer, Tyrese, the New York Mets, directing videos, and also directing a commercial for the Jerry Seinfeld Bee Movie (Links are below):

Vem Miller Directing John Mayer: Https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fc/Vemdirectingjohn2.jpg/800px-Vemdirectingjohn2.jpg

Vem Miller with Jerry Seinfield: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/fd/VemandJerry2.jpg/800px-VemandJerry2.jpg

Tyrese, Keith Murray and Vem Miller: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/Tyrese%2C_Keith_Murray%2C_Vem_Miller.jpg/800px-Tyrese%2C_Keith_Murray%2C_Vem_Miller.jpg

Vem Miller and Jerry Seinfeld on Set: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5f/Vem_and_jerry_seinfeld_on_set2.jpg/800px-Vem_and_jerry_seinfeld_on_set2.jpg

Vem Miller with the Mets: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Vem_and_Mets_compress2.jpg

Vem Miller in Jamaica: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/0b/Vem_in_jamaica.jpg/800px-Vem_in_jamaica.jpg

  • Keep Vem Miller is referenced in MANY in-depth ventures as seen below:

Executive producer in Television is a key creative title. He is also listed as creator of many of these shows. He's been nominated for directing MTV VMAs, BET awards, Source Magazine awards, etc.

Also, the issue is that as a music video director, he went under the name “Vem”, and then added his last name when creating and producing TV shows. Thats the confusion. He’s directed over 100 music videos.

All the prior Wikipedia links mention him by first name to have directed videos.

He is listed as the creator of Car Lot Rescue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_Lot_Rescue

He is also listed here under director for DMX “Where the hood at”:

https://www.discogs.com/DMX-Where-The-Hood-At/release/3472733

He is listed here as the director of the John Mayer Say music video - mentioned as Vem:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_(song)

His IMDB shows him as the showrunner and director to multiple TV shows, music videos, and commercials:

https://m.imdb.com/name/nm4290084/filmotype/producer

In this article he is listed as a key “creative and development” producer with a production company:

https://realscreen.com/2016/04/18/nancy-glass-productions-rebrands-teams-with-sweatshop/

Here he is listed as a music video director for a classic music video:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skindred_discography

Here is another mention of his name:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_the_Girl

This video actually has his name on there as director:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3kRRMrS3e4

Here is another mention for directing this video:

https://www.videostatic.com/vs/2005/10/booked-the-click-five-vem-director.html

Here he is mentioned as the director of another classic video, again by first name only:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Riddle_(Five_for_Fighting_song)

MTV music video nomination video of year:

https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/69818/2003-mtv-video-music-awards-nominees

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 21:31, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 21:37, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Looking through the list of sources provided by Mframe007 above, I'm seeing nothing independent that gives the subject significant coverage. Indeed, without wanting to pour scorn on Mframe, their act of adding a bunch of links to Wikipedia pages seems to suggest a lack of understanding of our notability criteria - WP:UGC explicitly states that user-generated content sites (such as Wikipedia or IMBD) cannot be considered as RS, and therefore they cannot be considered when weighing notability. They seem also to be unaware that notability is not inherited - being photographed with notable people does not make one notable. Florence Hansen's keep vote also misses the mark - the existence of links to reliable sources like the NYT does not mean the article should be kept. Neither source gives the subject significant coverage - therefore, they are irrelevant in this discussion. (I'm sorry to be singling out the individuals for criticism in this vote - I don't want to single you out for specific criticism, but I thought it best to be specific about which argument I was referring to when commenting, and didn't want to do that without pinging you.) GirthSummit (blether) 21:56, 4 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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