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-2010-08-06T11:31:00.000Z">Changing line break tags from <br /> to <br>
<br> is the form currently to be used per WP:LINEBREAK and the explanation here. However, many, many articles on the English Wikipedia, including guidelines, essays, and other docs in the "Wikipedia:" and "Template:" subspaces, still use <br /> (probably also <br/>). It's a simple replacing task, so a bot makes the most sense to use here. Prime Blue (talk) 11:31, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- While I understand why <br> is preferred over <br />, I really don't think it would be a good idea to run a bot that will edit thousands, if not millions, of pages for something so trivial. Bots should generally not be editing to make only minor changes like this one. It may be a good idea to have it added to AWB though, so that it will gradually get fixed by users and bots using AWB. - EdoDodo talk 11:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry, I never worked with bots before, I thought that was the only possibility for automated editing. I'll read up on AWB. Prime Blue (talk) 12:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- This will indeed create a lot of trivial edits, in violation of bots doing minor typo edits, so better update AWB general fix base. Also, that explanation is not a true discussion. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:10, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- AWb already fixes the similar WP:CHECKWIKI error 2: Article with <br\> or <\br> or <br.>. Are you sure we have consensus to change <br />? -- Magioladitis (talk) 12:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Mediawiki 1.16 uses XHTML. There are plans to change this to HTML 5 in future releases but thats not implemented yet. Merlissimo 12:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- So, still <br /> until then? Prime Blue (talk) 12:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have always used <br>. But many use <br/> or <br />. Just a preference, like placing or not placing spaces between == == in title. I suppose the correct is <br>, that's why it can be proposed for AWB general fixes list. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 12:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want to change it if some users disagree. Is there a good place to discuss this? The talk page of WP:LINEBREAK is not very useful. Prime Blue (talk) 12:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
The MediaWiki software automatically converts <br> or <br/> into <br /> so that it follows proper XHTML rules. I used to razz on users for this until I found that out. –MuZemike 13:17, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, it really makes to difference to how the page is rendered by MediaWiki, which is why this change is completely trivia. - EdoDodo talk 16:31, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Found this older discussion. More people were leaning towards using <br>
, but there was no definite result on what to use. My gripe was just with how the different versions across pages confuse editors. Prime Blue (talk) 17:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- Before this is added to the general fixes for AWB there should be strong consensus for it. Perhaps you could start a RFC or a village pump discussion. - EdoDodo talk 22:14, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- There is a stronger consensus to add the slash back in. Making it consistent with other XML style self closing tag (e.g. <ref/>). Mirrors may not necessarily be running HTML tidy and would have invalid XHTML. The extra markup does not break HTML, but removing it breaks XHTML; it makes sense keeping it. Finally, the space is irrelevant and was only a recommendation that a browser could operate in the short tags mode of SGML. No one has found one, as they would have been unusable at the time of their development. — Dispenser 05:27, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
From what I'm seeing in this discussion, it seems that there isn't very strong consensus either way, so perhaps it would be better to do nothing. It's a fairly trivial change anyway, since as mentioned the MediaWiki software will change it automatically. - EdoDodo talk 12:17, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Not done Task requested is an exceedingly trivial edit which doesn't have firm consensus anyway (Did anyone mention that the edit toolbar provides the br / version?). –xenotalk 14:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Please can someone convert album and single lengths, inside {{Infobox album}} and {{Track listing}}, to use {{Duration}}. Here's a sample edit.
If you like, at the same time convert {{Singles}}' release date to use {{Start date}}, as in the same edit, but only if {{Start date}}
is already in use (or converted at the same time) for the main album release date. df=y must be used where appropriate.
This will allow dates and durations to be emitted as metadata. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 00:32, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Metacritic has changed their site's design and URLs, in a way shown at this edit. In general, it looks like the URL change is just the entry page's product title with dashes between spaces. Dan56 (talk) 11:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- The problem is that we don't know the page product title if the old link is already dead. Merlissimo 13:06, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- The old URL sends me to a page called "redirectcritic", so it looks like the site is supposed to be redirecting to the appropriate new URL and it's just not working. Reach Out to the Truth 14:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's working only sometimes: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/simpsonsmovie vs. http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/40yearoldvirgin/ Merlissimo 14:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Year! The solution is to remove the slash. Merlissimo 14:26, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- But there are only 250 links ending with a slash. Films and music/artics (above think maybe broken before) without slash are redirecting fine (so no rewrite necessary). Books/authors (84) and film/awards seems to be removed completely. Merlissimo 14:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi all - I've just done the page move mentioned in this section title, to turn the basic title into a dab page - the Canadian district is one of several Hamilton Wests, but not the one which garners the most ghits or wikipage hits. Unfortunately, it is the one with the most internal links. I've moved all the "Hamilton West" links that were not about Canada but were meant to point to the Hamilton West in New Zealand, or the one in Scotland, or the Nicaraguan footballer - but that leaves about 120 internal links to the Canadian electorate. Could I please get someone to run a bot to dab the links currently to Hamilton West, all of which should now point to the Canadian electoral district? Thanks in advance... Grutness...wha? 12:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
BRFA filed (DodoBot 3) I've filed a BRFA for this. Even though it's a fairly simple task I need approval for it first because it's the first time my bot will be doing work with links. Apologies for the delay. - EdoDodo talk 12:29, 6 August 2010 (UTC)- No hurry. Better make the links point to Hamilton West (electoral district), BTW, due to Canadian naming conventions, despite the likelihood of confusion with electorates and constituencies in New Zealand and Scotland. Thanks again, Grutness...wha? 01:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Well, it looks like meanwhile this was taken care of semi-automatically by YUL89YYZ, so I've withdrawn the BRFA :(. - EdoDodo talk 11:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
This word "infamously" is POV and should be removed from all articles. I was doing this by hand, but discovered that there are now 1000s of articles that need attention in this manner.
It would be nice to remove the word "infamous" from articles by use of a bot, but that is more complicated because some articles are about something called Infamous. Kingturtle (talk) 19:47, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Bots are not well-suited for "typo fixing" or "de-euphamizing" or other similar changes to prose. Have you considered using WP:AWB to assist? –xenotalk 19:53, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- Alternatively you could use user:Botlaf, this would enable you to exclude articles where it is legit, such as in quotations. ϢereSpielChequers 23:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
- That bot doesn't seem to be approved for edits outside of the bot's userspace, and probably won't be because, as Xeno said, bots are generally not allowed to fix typos. - EdoDodo talk 00:55, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- It doesn't fix typos, and it doesn't need to edt outside its own namespace as it just produces reports which you then process manually. I've filed most of the requests at User:Botlaf/Job requests and it works well for keeping tabs on this sort of thing. It is particularly useful for ongoing problem words like posses where there are over 100 valid uses of the word that you don't want to trawl through each time you check for new occurrences. ϢereSpielChequers 05:57, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ah, okay. Makes sense :). - EdoDodo talk 11:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
I'll look into AWB. Kingturtle (talk) 05:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
- Some uses will be in quotations, or accurate in the NPOV sourced sense (though most won't be), so a blanket removal of all instances wouldn't be appropriate. It would have to be manually assisted. FT2 (Talk | email) 11:09, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Trying to make record charts comply with WP:ACCESS#Data tables means that I have to have the option to make the record chart name output by {{singlechart}} be formatted as a row header, not a data cell. Unfortunately, people have been using the template inconsistently: this article uses | before each template call, which forces it to be a data cell, and I can't override it to turn it back into a header. As you can see in this version, it formats perfectly without the |. It seems to be somewhere around 30% of articles using the macro use the pipe.
What I need is a bot/script that will go through all of the articles in Category:Singlechart, look for pipes before the singlechart calls, and remove the pipe. Obviously the bot shouldn't be tricked by the pipe in {{tl|singlechart}}
.—Kww(talk) 22:52, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- So, correct me if I'm wrong, the bot would just have to go through Category:Singlechart and replace all instances of
|{{singlechart
with {{singlechart
, or are there different cases that should be accounted for? Also, although needed for WP:ACCESS#Data tables compliance, this seems like a fairly trivial change. Is there consensus that it would be useful for a bot to do it? - EdoDodo talk 23:08, 11 August 2010 (UTC)- I'm pretty much the maintainer of {{singlechart}}, and it is being discussed at WT:Record charts#Accessibility Issues. This is a ground clearing operation: once it's in place, I can either do nothing, make the addition of
!scope="row"
turned on by a parameter, make it a default that is turned off by a parameter, or make it mandatory behaviour depending on what people decide. As it stands, I'm paralyzed: any change I make is either ineffective in 70% of articles or breaks the other 30%. This change in itself does nothing to the generated HTML. The only special case I can thing of is when someone is discussing the template, and the pipe in {{tl|singlechart}}
itself shouldn't get removed. As for it being a bot job, there are around 7000 uses of the template scattered over 713 articles. Certainly not one to do by hand.—Kww(talk) 23:30, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
BRFA filed (DodoBot 4) Sounds good, I've opened a BRFA. This is my second BRFA open at the same time... I didn't find anything against the rules in opening two at once, but apologies to BAG if it is annoying. - EdoDodo talk 02:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)- I'm afraid that it is required to make sure that at least all of the charts rendered using the {{singlechart}} comply with the accessbility changes. Like Kww said because people use the template with the "pipe" before it, a change in syntax would have no affect on improving the accessibility of the chart table -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 (talk2me) 03:51, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I understand. - EdoDodo talk 11:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Done by DodoBot. - EdoDodo talk 12:56, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
Apparently there used to be one or two bots that could tag an image when it's uploaded without a license. Could we create another bot for this? It's a task that screams for bot attention: the coding is fairly straightforward, it's very tedious to do as a human, and it's a massive task. Magog the Ogre (talk) 21:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
- User:ImageTaggingBot does it right now, it seems. —fetch·comms 01:41, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
As at July 6, there were over 13,000 articles containing redlinked files used: Wikipedia:Database reports/Articles containing red-linked files. A bot similar to CommonsDelinker (talk · contribs) should delink these files by commenting out or removing the offending image. –xenotalk 17:58, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
- Ive been doing some work regarding this myself, Ill get to as many as I can, but some often require manual cleanup due to some crazy formatting. ΔT The only constant 01:55, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- The issue is knowing why a link has gone red. Was it deleted from Commons? Was it deleted locally? Was an image redirect deleted on accident? Did the page title change and cause a bot to mistakenly mark it for fair use violation without anyone noticing? Was the page vandalized? Was the image code changed by a rogue script that the user didn't notice (this happens quite a bit more than you'd imagine). A bit of discussion about this is here and a bit is here. There has also been discussion on past bot requests, I'm sure. The counter-argument is, of course, that most manual editors don't check the reason for an image now being a red link either. I'm not sure that's a great argument for bot intervention, even though the red links do make an article look much more unprofessional.
It's been suggested that a change to MediaWiki could 'cause red linked images to not be so obvious (or maybe not be so obvious to logged out users). The world is bright with possibilities. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, if your are looking for a bot like CommonsDelinker (talk · contribs), I might be able to program one. I know a fair amount about Regular Expressions and HTML and I can program in Perl and similar languages so I might be able to write a bot to parse articles and remove red-linked files. Usb10 Let's talk 'bout it! 17:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
- I was actually looking for something like this myself, albeit for userspace rather than mainspace. It would make it handier to cleanup a lot of maintenance reports, like User:Avicennasis/todo/orphtem and User:Avicennasis/todo/csdf8. I know of several other users could make good use of this as well. Avicennasis @ 00:47, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
I totally disagree with red link removal without prejudgise. Red links are usually articles to be created. In some cases they are caused by wrong capitalisation, diacritics, etc. Check Red link recovery project for more. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
- This isn't about redlinks to articles, it's about redlinks to files. - EdoDodo talk 19:16, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
I run User:ImageRemovalBot to do this for deleted files. The bot is currently offline while I figure out how to handle two situations:
- How to comment out an image with a comment in the image's caption (HTML doesn't handle nested comments).
- How to handle redirects to images (the bot's original design assumed that an image could only have one name).
If I get around to fixing these, I'll reactivate the bot and start working through the backlog. --Carnildo (talk) 03:09, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
- Is there a way to do this with linked files (vs. displayed), or, say, template links without transclusion? And if so, is the source code open? :) Avicennasis @ 03:38, 7 Elul 5770 / 17 August 2010 (UTC)
There's broken links here to this template. If these can be removed from all the articles, that would be great. Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Muslims and controversies. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 21:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- I will have User:SporkBot do it. This is actually the one and only task it is approved to perform. I usually patrol WP:TFD/H, but I have been generally off wiki for the past several days. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:11, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks. --Matt57 (talk•contribs) 17:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
I've spotted a good area where a bot could identify a particular kind of vandalism that's both common and difficult to spot otherwise, and would have a low error rate. I'd rather not give WP:BEANS.
The bot would need to be able to pull diffs corresponding to the RC feed as opposed to the revision text alone, but some bots already do that. The logic required is probably fairly simple.
Anyone with bot development experience willing to discuss this please email me. Thanks. FT2 (Talk | email) 11:07, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
- I have an idea, too, and I program all day, though I have not written a bot. Maybe it's aligned with yours. How will we know or get approval without giving beans? -- ke4roh (talk) 23:05, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
If anyone wants to help me orphan {{Do not delete}}, please feel free. The majority of transclusions are due to a lag in "what links here" cache. Hence, they can be cleared by simply opening the page, making no changes, and saving, which will purge the cache. I currently have SporkBot working on it, but with over 25k and me being on the road it will take some time. If you don't feel comfortable making any edits, you can always just do the purging part, which will add nothing to your edit history, but will help weed out the real transclusions. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 21:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I wish I could help, Ive already got code for this. But due to my restrictions I cannot help. However the cache will automatically be purged by the server. ΔT The only constant 22:47, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Null edits shouldn't be done, just let the job queue do it. There's no rush... (See also WT:RIF#Like watching grass grow...) –xenotalk 22:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, I suppose massive numbers of null edits would be a bad idea, given that it would just add to the server load. However, if anyone wants to help out with the orphaning, I would still appreciate it. The actual transclusions won't orphan themselves. By the way, it is currently listed as having over 190k transclusions on Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates transcluded on the most pages. Even with say one edit per 5 seconds this will take some time (at least a week or two). I am hopeful that these are mostly false transclusions and the server will indeed weed many of them out. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- I just checked the toolserver database and there are 171009 inclusions, and 1-3 are disappearing per second. ΔT The only constant 01:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
I will help I could help but on further thought, I'm not so sure about the necessity of orphaning or deleting this template. It's a template that emits nothing and just because CAT:TEMP is deprecated doesn't mean that administrators won't be tempted to sometimes deleted user pages... –xenotalk 13:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)- The transclusion count is dropping quite a bit, which appears to be mostly from the server catching up after I removed it from various user warning/sockpuppet/publicIP templates. I don't have a strong opinion on the deletion/orphaning, but it was closed as such at WP:TFD and as far as I can tell there has been no WP:DRV. However, I think we both agree that removing it isn't a high priority. You are right about the utility of the template, which is basically nil as far as I can tell. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 14:27, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Oh, absolutely - the TFD was a delete result and I don't fault you at all for commencing the removal task. (P.S. this should clear a lot too) I'm just not sure the participants thought about the fact that deleting this template will have an essentially null effect, so it may as well just be left in place rather than committing edits. Will think about this some more. –xenotalk 14:28, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello, several Food and Drink related WikiProjects have been been folded back in to the main Food and Drink WikiProject due to lack of interest. What we need to do now is to have a bot preferably go through all the talk pages that have the old projects templates and replace them with the Food and Drink Template.
Here is what needs to be done:
This is about a thousand or so pages total.
Thanks, --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- I'll have AnomieBOT start doing this in a little bit. Anomie⚔ 11:47, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- A few comments/questions:
- It would have been easier had you left {{WikiProject Soft Drinks}} unredirected until after the merge, as then the bot could have just looked for "{{WikiProject Soft Drinks}} and all redirects" instead of "certain specific redirects to {{WikiProject Food and drink}}". Oh well.
- How about
{{WPSD|coffee=yes}}
and {{WPSD|tea=yes}}
? - To be clear,
{{WPSD|c&t=yes}}
should be changed to {{WikiProject Food and drink|c&t=yes}}
, not {{WikiProject Food and drink|c&t=yes|soda=yes}}
? - You mentioned that "several" projects have been merged. It would be more efficient to do them all at once.
- Also, would you like the bot to auto-assess stubs and/or copy the assessment and importance from the {{WPSD}} or from any other WikiProject banner?
- Anomie⚔ 14:02, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks allot, that would be very helpful.
{{WPSD|coffee=yes}}
and {{WPSD|tea=yes}}
can be set to {{WikiProject Food and drink|c&t=yes}}
{{WikiProject Food and drink|c&t=yes}}
is correct as it is now a task force of WP food and Drink- WikiProject Mixed Drinks, WikiProject Bartending and WikiProject Ice Cream were the other projects merged back into WP Food and Drink. I made a list of the various projects and their templates for you:
- With the following you can just change the template name to
{{WikiProject Food and drink}}
and leave the tags in place as they will be recognized by the Food and Drink template.{{WikiProject Soft Drinks|c&t=yes}}
}}{{WikiProject Soft Drinks|coffee=yes}}
{{WikiProject Soft Drinks|tea=yes}}
{{Soda|c&t=yes}}
{{Soda|coffee=yes}}
{{Soda|tea=yes}}
{{WPSD|c&t=yes}}
{{WPSD|coffee=yes}}
{{WPSD|tea=yes}}
- Change the following to
{{WikiProject Food and drink|soda=yes}}
{{WikiProject Soft Drinks}}
{{Soda}}
{{WPSD}}
- Change the following to
{{WikiProject Food and drink|mix=yes}}
{{WikiProject Mixed Drinks}}
{{WP Mixed Drinks}}
{{WPMIX}}
{{Wpmix}}
{{Cocktails Project}}
- Change the following to
{{WikiProject Food and drink|ice cream=yes}}
- Change the following to
{{WikiProject Food and drink|bar=yes}}
{{WikiProject Bartending}}
{{WikiProject Mixed Drinks|bar=yes}}
{{WP Mixed Drinks|bar=yes}}
{{WPMIX|bar=yes}}
{{Wpmix|bar=yes}}
{{WPBAR}}
- Please have the bot auto-assess stubs and copy the assessment and importance tags.
- If your bot can, on pages where the Food and Drink template and any of the other listed both are present delete the second template to avoid duplication.
This is allot of pages, this won't cause any issues? I don't want to rile anyone or cause any problems.
Thank you again, --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 20:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Shouldn't cause any problem.
Doing... Anomie⚔ 03:19, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Y Done 1379 pages were edited. 12 had multiple banners, 803 had soda banners, 58 had ice cream banners, 508 had mixed drink banners (with or without bar=yes), and 0 had {{WikiProject Bartending}}
or {{WPBAR}}
(they had probably been merged into mixed drinks sometime in the past). Anomie⚔ 14:41, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for that. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 18:37, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I think that a bot could create redirects for articles like List of hospitals in Spain. The variations purposed are:
This can be applied to all title lists with "in/of". We can split the "List of" prefix and create redirects too. Regards. emijrp (talk) 09:15, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- Has there been discussion showing that people think these redirects would be useful? Anomie⚔ 14:41, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- @emijrp: the search engine is supposed to display all of the most appropriate results at the top. Anyway, I'm sure that we can't reliably choose between the paronyms to create only one link. JackPotte (talk) 15:57, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I'm wondering if it's possible to get a bot to archive the oldest day on WP:In the news/Candidates at 0000 UTC every day and add the new day of nominations. I don't think it would be very complicated for someone who knows what they're doing. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 02:14, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- So basically what was done in this and this? I'll look at having AnomieBOT do it. Anomie⚔ 03:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
BRFA filed Anomie⚔ 14:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)- Yeah, that's right. Thanks a lot for the help! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:59, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- From WP:VPT
Is it difficult for someone to replace the late Wolterbot with a bot that goes through the FAs and coutns how many cleanup categories are also listed at the bottom to update Wikipedia:Featured articles/Cleanup listing. I cannot imagine it to be a difficult task YellowMonkey (new photo poll) 00:54, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe request a listing at WP:DBR? —fetch·comms 02:36, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
- Try asking at WP:BOTREQ Peachey88 (T · C) 07:22, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Done-I've made a similar listing at Wikipedia:Featured_articles/reports/Aug_2010_Cleanup_listing...(it does need a little cleaning though). Let me know if it helps. Smallman12q (talk) 15:32, 28 August 2010 (UTC)- (Other FAR delegate jumping in here!) Thank you Smallman, this is indeed helpful. However, it would be really great if we could get either a reincarnated Wolterbot or a very similar bot. The listings by type of template, number of templates, etc were extremely helpful for figuring out which articles were in need of the quickest attention. Also, Wolterbot was used to maintain similar listings for many projects (see WP:WikiProject Equine/Cleanup listing for one project's list) and to do it on a fairly regular schedule (at least every couple of months) in order to keep it semi-updated. While your listing is helpful, it includes many templates that aren't cleanup templates, which makes it rather more cluttered, and the listing by article rather than cleanup template is harder to use, IMO. When you had all of, for example, the articles with NPOV banners in one place, it made it easier to focus on these without having to sort through all of the articles with fact tags or some other minor issue. I know this really sounds like I'm complaining about your work, but please believe me when I say that I'm not trying to be witchy. I'm just hoping there's a possibility of either fixing Wolterbot or coming up with something quite similar. Dana boomer (talk) 17:02, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Ye, I'll code something similar to Wolterbot...this was a very rudimentary post more for my own interest to see just how clean FA's were. I'll let you know when its done.Smallman12q (talk) 17:46, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've looked at it again, and I'm not sure if a bot is needed. One could do the same with Magnu's Catscan2. For example, to get all FA's with citation needed, you could do
. Perhaps a table of catscan2 templates would provide the same functionality?Smallman12q (talk) 20:45, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- That is an interesting tool - I hadn't seen it before, although I am familiar with the original CatScan. One of my favorite things about WolterBot was that it listed articles with multiple templates together - for example all articles with five templates were listed first, then all with four, etc., then provided a breakdown of per-template articles. I think a table of CatScan2 templates would actually be more helpful for the latter (as it has the added benefit of being constantly updated), but I'm not sure how it would work for the former. The main reason I'm interested in the former is because it allowed you to see at a glance which articles needed the most work. Although not always foolproof (one NPOV tag can take up more editing time than a dozen fact tags), it was handy. Also, would there be a way of making a bot to make the tables of CatScan2 templates for each WikiProject, possibly on the existing "Project/Cleanup listing" pages that WB used? (Forgive me if any of these questions/comments are really dumb - I have essentially no experience in coding! Also, I'm watching this page, so tb templates are not necessary, unless you really like using them!) Dana boomer (talk) 21:13, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wolterbot was invaluable to us at WPEQ, where we have to keep an eye on something like 3,000 articles. It would be good to have it reactivated or replaced with something very similar. Montanabw(talk) 03:21, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I'll see if I can write something up this week. From a technical standpoint, its a fairly easy bot...just a matter of downloading the categories to an arrays and checking if an article is in both of them (intersection), and posting the result. I'm a bit dismayed to see that a replacement hasn't been written by anyone else.Smallman12q (talk) 22:50, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- I've finished writing the bot...it's pretty short (less than 400 lines)...just waiting for trial approval...see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/CleanupListingBot.Smallman12q (talk) 20:17, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Yay! Let WPEQ know when it's live! Or, better yet, see if you can make it run for us! Montanabw(talk) 02:44, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Thank you for making this bot! The WikiProject Chemistry is vastly appreciative. Please add us to this bot!Scientific29 (talk) 04:03, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- WikiProject Cryptozoology has greatly benefited by the services of the old Wolter bot. Please update us onto your list as well!--Gniniv (talk) 06:51, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
I've made a sample posting for WPEQ at User:CleanupListingBot/WPEQ Report and User:CleanupListingBot/WPEQ Report (Table). It's a work in progress...but let me know what you think.Smallman12q (talk) 00:50, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Anyone?Smallman12q (talk) 23:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'm looking for some feedback as to whether the sortable table and the listing is what people had in mind....Smallman12q (talk) 23:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sorry for the slow response. The report/table combination looks like exactly what we would need. Don't know if it's possible to put them on the same page - WolterBot (are you getting tired of being compared to this yet?!) would surpress table-style listings of articles with only 1-2 categories to reduce page length if needed. My only concern/question is that in the table some articles seem to have the same category listed multiple times, sometimes 4-5 listings for the same category, which is artificially inflating the cleanup category count and throwing them off a bit. Any way to resolve this? Thanks so much for your hard work on this Smallman - it will be great to have a bot for this back in place! Dana boomer (talk) 01:10, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- Dittoes to Dana's, nice work, and with only a few tweaks, we'll be happy. Here are some of mine: In my browser (Safari) there are no columns, which Wolterbot had, and were quite handy, I work off a laptop with limited vertical scroll and it helps to use the horizontal space as much as possible. I personally (and this is just me, Dana may be different) prioritize articles by the cleanup category (merges, references, etc.) or by number of flags more than by date. Montanabw(talk) 05:06, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
- I'll add columns, replace the subsections that have months with (month year) in parenthesis (this would eliminate "duplicate categories", and I'm also planning to add article quality and wikiproject importance as well....this could be done with a few more category scans. In addition to the regular listing, have you also look at the sortable table produced? I don't mind being compared to WolterBot...software has evolution too=D. It'll probably be another week or so before its all good to go...I still need to optimize the program, and vb.net is awful with arraylists full of arraylists full of objects...so I'll likely have to port a piece to C++ dll. Once the bot is done though, I don't plan to run it myself...I'll look for a dedicated bot op.Smallman12q (talk) 22:58, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I am just curious. Is there a bots for fixing typos. That could be of good use. Jhenderson 777 23:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- Not a good general task for bot. See WP:BFDB — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 23:50, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- I didn't seem to think that seemed possible but I am just checking. I also like the idea of bots that get rid of red links and deleted image links. Jhenderson 777 23:58, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
- AWB does a pretty good job of fixing typos. See Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos. -- Ϫ 09:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Red links are seen as a "Good Thing" and there is discussion about removing deleted images, also some bots commented these out in the past. Rich Farmbrough, 17:31, 4 September 2010 (UTC).
Hi, I noticed following some interwikis that some wikis have free images of the subjects that are not being used in the English version, It would be really cool if a bot could run through a specific catagory checking the interwikis and identifying 1) What en articles are lacking images, 2) which interwiki have an image that is hosted on commons and 3) which interwikis have images hosted on the other wiki (if possible sorted into license type). I could then go through the lists fairly quickly with AWB and add the appropriate ones to the en articles. Cheers Spartaz Humbug! 17:55, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Have you seen m:FIST? it does something very similar. ΔT The only constant 18:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Nope, I don't work on images much and bots and programming could be ancient greek for all I understand them. That looks like just the ticket though, thanks thingy. Spartaz Humbug! 18:41, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Wow, what a great tool. thanks for that Spartaz Humbug! 19:33, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Best thing is to move free images from "the other wiki" to Commons. then they are available to all projects. Rich Farmbrough, 17:32, 4 September 2010 (UTC).
If possible, can someone have a bot replace all uses of {{amg}} with {{allmusic}} (the former is a redirect to the latter). {{amg}} currently has 2466 transclusions, which is a bigger job than I can handle myself with AWB. My reasons for wanting to orphan this redirect are twofold:
- {{amg}} would make more sense as a redirect to {{AMG}}.
- "amg" is ambiguous: it's not immediately obvious whether it refers to "All Music Guide" or "All Movie Guide". No such problems with the {{AMG}} template, which covers both.
Thanks in advance for any assistance! PC78 (talk) 22:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- I can do that. My bot has approval in updating templates already. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:27, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Marvelous, thanks! PC78 (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Doing... 2,440 files loaded and Yobot started running. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
Done 2,438 edits. I fixed 8 occurrences in non-mainspace manually. -- Magioladitis (talk) 00:54, 1 September 2010 (UTC)- I was under the impression we don't do simple template redirect changes like that? Peachey88 (T · C) 01:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- The way I understand it is that {{amg}} will no longer redirect to {{allmusic}}, but to {{AMG}}. Before that redirect could be made {{amg}} had to be replaced with {{allmusic}} or all articles meant to be transcluding {{allmusic}} through {{amg}} would be transcluding {{AMG}} instead. §hepTalk 01:31, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Exactly. We try to avoid templates that vary only in capitalisation and redirects that vary only in capitalisation and have different targets. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:35, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks again Magioladitis, I've now redirected {{amg}} to {{AMG}}. PC78 (talk) 15:43, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Indeed: see Wikipedia:Templates with names differing only in capitalization. Rich Farmbrough, 17:34, 4 September 2010 (UTC).
I have a page at User:Hammersoft/tick file, which is a reminder list for myself. It's useful, but not particularly so; I have to remember to look at it all the time. It would be much more useful if there were a bot that scanned the file once a day, and if it found an event in the past would:
- Mark the event as having passed on the file (so it doesn't keep reminding of past events)
- Notify the owner of the file about the event.
Such a file would have to adhere to some standards of course, but those would not be hard. Thoughts? --Hammersoft (talk) 15:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Well, if you need a message sent to yourself, or someone else, on a specific date then you could make a MessageDeliveryBot request for that date, and that would serve as a reminder. Not quite the same as having an on-wiki list but just a thought (and a bit of adverting for my bot ;)). It would also involve a lot less edits as there would just be one edit, the bot leaving you the message, instead of a minimum of three edits (you add a reminder, the bot reminds you, the bot marks it as done). - EdoDodo talk 16:01, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- I actually thought about doing something like that a few weeks ago, but I haven't pursued it yet because I wasn't sure anyone would want to use it. I may look at it now. Anomie⚔ 16:41, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hmm, no, there isn't, it's a good idea though, I might add it. By the way, I think I may have misunderstood what you were asking, it's probably better to have a bot specific for this, as the more I think about it the more it seems that a bot specific to this task would work better (for example, it could integrate to reminders on the same day into one, not having to make the confirmation edits, etc.). - EdoDodo talk 17:06, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm also thinking this notional bot could remove the manual checking aspect of this. The bot could be restricted to editing only the tick file page, and the talk page of the owner of the tick file. It couldn't be used to spam, canvas, etc. Just send reminders to yourself. Also, being able to manage the tick file would allow self management of what you get reminded of. Thoughts? --Hammersoft (talk) 17:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Is this personal use bot really a good idea? The only edits seem to be personal calendar reminders. This serves no bigger encyclopaedic purpose beyond editor's own convenience. I agree it's nifty and useful to some, but one should really use proper tools for the job, like Google calendar or any other of many organiser apps. I would want to see this with a general purpose proposal for a project page, such as, "WikiProject Future Events\Task List" rather than individual checklists. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 18:05, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
- Huh? WP:UP exhorts us to use our userpages for Wikipedia work. Obviously, if we put something in a tick file to be reminded of, it would be for wikipedia work. A generic task list for the entire project is completely meaningless to the individual user. My personal tick file contains only things for Wikipedia. For example, my latest edition is a reminder to myself that in one month's time, I need to check back in on List of Irish counties' coats of arms, as it will have been one month since I added {{non-free}} to it, and it bears looking at for removal of guideline violating fair use content. Why in heck would I use some obtuse Google calendar for this when a bot here locally could assist me in conducting my own Wikipedia work without having to do anything but a single edit to one's tick file per task, as opposed to logging into a separate service, learning that service, and figuring out how to make it work specifically for Wikipedia tasks. I'm sorry, but that just doesn't make sense to me. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
I've had a bit of a look at this, and while I like the idea I'm having a little trouble figuring out some aspects of it. First, here is what I have determined:
- Either the "tick file" pages will be required to be a subpage in the user's userspace, or they will have to be something like "Template:Remind me/Username". Not both, please. If the former, they will need either a template or a category so the bot can find them (this could possibly be the same as the template in #2).
- The format of the entries on the page needs to be something easy for the bot to parse and at the same time easy for users to use. IMO, template syntax fits the bill here well: people who would use this should already have at least a passing familiarity with using templates, and AnomieBOT is quite good at parsing even complicated template invocations. The template should have a (named) delivery date parameter (for which the bot can easily accept DMY, MDY, and YMD, both with and without a time of day included) and a (named) parameter for the text of the reminder; a (possibly optional) parameter for the section title wouldn't be amiss either.
- The bot will keep a whilelist of other bots and completely ignore any edits to the "tick file" page that are not by the page's owner or a whitelisted bot (i.e. it will go through the history). This prevents malicious editors from putting spam on an unwatched "tick file" page and having the bot deliver it for them.
- The bot will ignore a "tick file" for any user that is blocked or has a fully-protected talk page or "tick file" page. It may as well also respect {{nobots}} on both the talk and "tick file" pages.
- The bot will, of course, only work for registered users. No IPs.
The things I am having trouble with:
- Which option for #1? User subpages are much more straightforward for users and are less "overhead" if this bot idea doesn't really take off, but usernamed subpages of a central template (as with Template:Editnotices/Page/...) can be easier to manage and can much more easily have a helpful editnotice.
- Is Template:Remind me a good name, or would something like User:ReminderBot/Remind me be better? The former is more straightforward, but the latter doesn't "pollute" the Template namespace.
- What should the output of "Template:Remind me" look like? What should the documentation say to be easy to understand?
- Should the bot mark delivered notices (by adding a "delivered=yes" parameter to the template), or just remove them from the "tick file" page?
- Should I even create a "ReminderBot" account, or just run it under AnomieBOT? The difference here is trivial (it's more work for me to create the Wikipedia account than to set up the AnomieBOT subprocess to use it), and for this I lean towards "ReminderBot".
- Should the bot allow for specifying time of day for each reminder, or should it only accept dates and deliver once a day at a time chosen by the user in the "tick file" page header template? If the former, what granularity should it honor? For example, if the user specifies "05:05", should the bot only worry about delivering it sometime between 05:00 and 06:00?
Anomie⚔ 04:25, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
This is actually a request for two scripts (although it would also work for a bot to run these once, automatically, when articles show up at the SHIPS A-class review page).
- FAC reviewers sometimes require that we link terms only once in an article (not counting infoboxes or endsections). It's a really tedious job to go through an article checking for this, and seems ideal for an automated job; it's rare that we actually need or want to link a term twice.
- Even better: a script that checks a list of terms that are commonly linked in SHIPS articles, then runs through an article adding the standard link at the first occurrence of each of those terms. The results won't be perfect all the time, but if the script leaves me in the "changes" screen so I can quickly check the results for myself before committing to the edit, that would be awesome. - Dank (push to talk) 03:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I have written code for bypassing redirects on disambiguation pages (per MoS), this code is similar to sorting collation. It treats accented and unaccented characters the same, as well having substitutions for various symbols and romanizations (so Yūgiō and Yu-Gi-Oh! are considered the same).
I'm thinking about incorporating this into my common fixes library. However, I would like to know what objection, if any, people would have. Specially, cases where the author may use accent characters to differentiate. — Dispenser 20:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
I go through citations and update them, adding Author, Date, Archiveurl, etc. and would like a helper bot to assist in that job. What I am looking for is something that would search an article for the type of citation used (cite web, cite news, etc.) and bring up an input form related to that template. It would show a link to the reference on the web and a link to the Internet Archive (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://SomeWebSite) so I could check for archives. This would allow one to check the reference and add any missing information in to the form. The form would have an Update and a Skip to next button to either update that reference or skip to the next reference. See this sort-of-example for what I mean. Is this kind of thing possible for a bot? Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk) 19:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think what you're looking for is what would normally be called a script or an editing tool (such as Twinkle or AutoWikiBrowser, respectively). Bots generally carry out lots of similar edits on their own with little to no human interaction; what you're envisioning would require frequent input from the user for direction on how to proceed. You might be able to find someone who could help at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Requests. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Have you seen WP:REFLINKS? –xenotalk 20:50, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for the help. I did not know about REFLINKS. I checked it out a little, but I think I will have to spend some more time with it in order to get it to do what I want. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk) 01:35, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
We have a problem at newpage patrol in that some newbies submit new articles in their own language without realising that this is just the English language version of wikipedia. We have procedures and templates to tag these as {{Not English}}, refer the article for translation and ideally tell the author about the Wikipedia in their language. Sometimes this doesn't work, not least because some newpage patrolers and also some admins don't have the software on their PC to identify articles in scripts such as Sinhalese, so නිරිපොල would appear to them as a row of boxes. Would it be possible for someone to write a bot that:
- Checked all new pages and identified ones that were predominately in a non-Latin script.
- Ideally identified which script - Arabic, Sinhalese etc etc had been used
- Tagged those articles with {{Not English}}
- Added a section at Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English
- Ideally if the Bot is able to identify the script, post a note on the authors talkpage using the appropriate template from Wikipedia:Pages needing translation into English/Templates for user talk pages
I'm not sure how often this would happen, we currently have a few such articles identified per day - but we don't know how many more are being deleted {{G1}} because neither the tagger nor the admin can see that it is non-English material. ϢereSpielChequers 12:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- Google has open sourced its compact language detection library which can detected which language text has been written in. — Dispenser 12:34, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
We have these two redundant categories. As in the English-language Wikipedia the name of this province is Gipuzkoa and not Guipúzcoa, all the instances of the text Category:People from Guipúzcoa contained in this Wikipedia's articles should be replaced with Category:People from Gipuzkoa. Thank you in advance. --Xabier Armendaritz(talk) 12:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Done There were only 36 articles so I did them semi-manually using WP:AWB. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
The USGS has a a photo library consisting of 30,000+ high resolution images. Perhaps it could be imported to wikipedia or the commons?Smallman12q (talk) 20:49, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- I Just dropped them an email, but their site is fairly complex and extracting images from their site will be difficult unless we can get some assistance from them. ΔT The only constant 21:16, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- It's not terribly complex...still, probably best to get a response from them before we download 30,000+ high res images. I'm also interested in their portrait collection, though small, it does have superior high-res images compared to ours such as that for William Henry Holmes as ours and theirs. Do let us know when they respond.Smallman12q (talk) 00:14, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Prior discussion lead to Wikipedia:Bot_requests/Archive_37#We_need_another_User:WebCiteBOT. Now the question has again risen at WP:Village pump (policy)/Archive 78#WebCiteBOT is down - Dead links at record high. Any word of progress on either front? LeadSongDog come howl! 18:41, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
- The original bot owner posted a link to the source code here (Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/WebCiteBOT 2) if anybody is interested in working on this.
- - Hydroxonium (talk | contribs) 00:51, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hey guys. I've been away for awhile, but the monitoring portion of WebCiteBOT was still running - just not the portion that edits Wikipedia. Thus, the easiest solution would be for me to just start actually running it again. I'll look over the code, make sure everything is up to date, and get it up & running again w/in the next few days. --ThaddeusB (talk) 02:13, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Welcome back! Could you clarify whether the transactions with WebCitation have been continuing too? There's been some anxiety over the question of whether they've got a sustainable and scalable future. LeadSongDog come howl! 06:26, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
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@ThaddeusB, we missed you. Welcome back. Thanks for WebCiteBOT, it's one of the best bots on Wikipedia.
- Can we get a 2nd WebCiteBOT running, please?
It's alright if the answer is no. I would just like to know one wat or the other. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk | contribs) 10:17, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- You can do what WebCiteBOT does using Checklinks, minus the automatically saving part. — Dispenser 04:12, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
- It's been about 2 weeks and so far ThaddeusB is a no show. On a positive note, nn123645 is back and is working on another bot for WecCite and could use some help. He is allowing me to post a link to the code he has on the toolserver tools:~nn123645/webcite/source-9-7-10.zip. Can anybody help with this please? Thanks very much for any input. - Hydroxonium (talk) 20:23, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- I will reactivate my Wayback link bot in a short while after I'm done with my work deadline, that may be of some help. I can probably set it to check WebCite archives as well afterwards. But given how slow browsing and revision parsing is, there certainly needs to be more of these bots. Tim1357 had one, not sure if it's working on this task now. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 22:45, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks very much, Hellknowz. Dead links have been increasing exponentially for the last few months, so any help is greatly appreciated. I appreciate your support. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk) 00:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Just restarted mine. It's throttled heavily to not be too much of a strain on the toolserver, but I'll let it run for a long time. Tim1357 talk 00:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- That's great, Tim. Thank you very much. I really appreciate all the support. Thanks. - Hydroxonium (talk) 12:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Which bot is it? It sounds great, and I'd like to see its contribs. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) 03:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Tim1357's bot is DASHBot (busy with other tasks), mine would be H3llBot (in development/testing). I am unaware of any other active and fully automated bots doing archiving. — HELLKNOWZ ▎TALK 11:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- I had forgotten how buggy my bot was. Its down for the moment. Tim1357 talk 01:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
For the upcoming Article Feedback Tool pilot (see description from the Signpost, we need to add every article in WikiProject United States Public Policy to a hidden category, Category:Article Feedback Pilot. I was hoping a bot operator could help; it should be a pretty trivial bot task.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:29, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- I think that this is a AWB task. I'll do this. —I-20the highway 22:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Awesome. Don't start in just yet, because I want to double check that we aren't excluding any articles or changing the category name or anything else. But I'll leave a message on your talk page probably tomorrow confirming that it's a go.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 23:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
- Alright. All edits will be checked manually by me and made under the account AutoGeek, my semi-automated editing account. —I-20the highway 01:03, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Great! Thanks.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:12, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Bot needed, to go through Category:Wikipedian usernames editors have expressed concern over and Category:User talk pages with conflict of interest notices - and remove all users currently blocked. Thank you, -- Cirt (talk) 16:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Already doing the first with KingpinBot (haven't been running much over summer, and computer just got wiped+OS reinstalled, so bear with me). I could probably do the other one using pretty much the same code. - Kingpin13 (talk) 16:24, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Okay, great, thank you so much! :) -- Cirt (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Is this working? -- Cirt (talk) 19:16, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- Eh, still doing CAT:UAA, haven't got around to doing the other one yet I'm afraid. I'll submit the BRfA in a second. Sorry about not getting around to this earlier, I've not been particularly good at following these on-wiki things up recently, especially bots, so thanks for the poke :). Best, - Kingpin13 (talk) 19:25, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
- No prob, keep me posted. :) -- Cirt (talk) 19:26, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
BRFA filed - Kingpin13 (talk) 19:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Y Done - Kingpin13 (talk) 15:52, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
{{Football player statistics end}} is meant as a replacement for the |}
that comes after using {{Football player statistics 1}}. Using it resolves. This needs to be applied to 3197 articles at this moment, after I applied it to 30 or so manually to see that indeed, it is the first |}
to occur after {{Football player statistics 1}} that needs to be replaced. Any takers, or should I continue doing it manually? Or maybe someone wants to suggest a location in which this needs to be discussed first? I proposed it at Template talk:Football player statistics 1#Suggestion and implemented due to acquiescence.--Muhandes (talk) 15:50, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KarlsenBot has been started for this task. Peter Karlsen (talk) 03:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Currently Dycedarg's bot DyceBot archives the Graphic Lab subpages. I was looking to fiddle with the time frame the bot uses to archive sections and noticed that it looks like it's something that Dycedarg would need to change on their end. As they don't seem to be active anymore I was hoping someone here could recommend a bot, that would be able to do what DyceBot is currently doing, with an active owner. Any recommendations on who I should contact? Or if someone is interested in coding something up I can give more detail on the specifics. Thanks, §hepTalk 21:48, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Special:Export doesn't export the .jpg or other image files in the articles. Anyway to get the articles and their images within them? Also, some images are in categories such as Category:Xbox Live game covers. Any way to save all of them on my hard drive at once? Dream Focus 16:14, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- If I understand you correctly, you're looking for a tool to download all the pictures in a category and also to download all the pictures in articles in that category?Smallman12q (talk) 22:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
- Yes. I can export the articles themselves in mass, but the pictures don't go along with them. Dream Focus 01:14, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd like to see a bot that flags articles that have inconsistent hyphen usage between word pairs. It would search for the first occurrence of a hyphen and store the bounding words. If the same word combinations exist elsewhere without the hyphen then have the article noted for human cleanup/intervention. I'm not sure how many false positives this approach would bring up but it should be easy to find out.--Hooperbloob (talk) 17:30, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
- Chances are this would be best done using a database dump to find the pages. You may want to ask Wikipedia:WikiProject Check Wikipedia, as they make this sort of list already for many other types of cleanup. Anomie⚔ 20:07, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
It is very common (to the point where there are redirect pages for most of them) for John*s* Hopkins University to be written as John Hopkins University. This is *especially* common in references which refer to John Hopkins University Press. While there might be a few places where John Hopkins University might be appropriate to keep in stories about people's confusion, botting a change of all of John Hopkins University Press to Johns Hopkins University Press might be useful (and wikilinking it if it isn't already). According to Google there are 4000 hits on "John Hopkins University Press" on wikipedia.Naraht (talk) 02:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Bots that fix common misspellings are generally not approved, because direct quotations should not be changed, and the bot has no way of knowing if text is a direct quotation or not (it can make a reasonable guess from quotes and {{quote}} but not safe enough). However, if this misspelling is common it may be a good idea to add it to WP:AutoWikiBrowser/Typos so that users using AWB will semi-automatically fix it. If nobody disagrees I can add it later today. - EdoDodo talk 05:38, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- To me, this is sort of a quarter-loaf, but thank you very much. I think that John Hopkins University *Press* is much less likely to be in a quote. Would either only changing John Hopkins University Press in *references* be safe enough, or in {{cite}}, or even {{cite|publisher=}}?--Naraht (talk) 10:39, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Even so, I doubt it would be approved because fully automatic fixing of typos is explicitly against the bot policy ("Bot processes may not fix spelling mistakes in an unattended fashion, as accounting for all possible false positives is unfeasible."). However, now that it is in AWB's typos list it will probably get done semi-automatically fairly quickly. There's only 1000 instances or so of it, so it shouldn't take too long. I might do some semi-automatically myself later. - EdoDodo talk 14:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- OK, I understand policy. Thank you for putting it in the typo's list. The 4000 number I was using was from site:wikipedia.org, and in some ways it is really odd that roughly 3/4 of the misspellings are from sites other than en. Shows how often it (with press) gets used as the publisher in a reference, I guess. Now all I have to do is find the equivalent to AWB for all of the other languages... 1/2 :) Thank you for all of the help.--Naraht (talk) 15:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, with Google's aid I could only find 43 pages actually using "John Hopkins University" in en.wikipedia. Perhaps someone has already went through those 1000 and corrected them. I corrected the 43 I could find. If you think this is a recurring issue I will add it to my weekly TODO list. --Muhandes (talk) 11:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
- No, still 989. Type "john hopkins university" site:en.wikipedia.org into the search box. Even 199 if you exclude "John Hopkins University Press" (which need to be fixed as well).Naraht (talk) 03:55, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- You are correct, from some reason AWB does not return all of them on a google search. I will fix the rest, time permitting. --Muhandes (talk) 06:44, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
- Cool.Naraht (talk) 12:01, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Done The 400ish articles reported by this google search are corrected. I will wait a couple of weeks and do another google search to make sure, but for now there is not much else I can do. If you have a better way to find such instances than that google search, let me know. --Muhandes (talk) 22:08, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
On 20 October, I posted the following request: "All players in Category:Philadelphia Quakers players need to be moved into Category:Philadelphia Phillies players, as they are the same team. The deprecated category for the Philadelphia Blue Jays players was also emptied, and this is a preparatory step for the expansion of the Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster. Thanks." See Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 38#Category change for the original. No response was ever made to the thread before it was archived, so I'm reposting it. — KV5 • Talk • 12:21, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- Link to a relevant discussion? -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:52, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
- I would suggest initiating a CfD nomination (see WP:CFD#HOWTO for instructions). If there is consensus for the merge, then User:Cydebot will carry it out automatically . -- Black Falcon (talk) 01:33, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
Are there any bots that can improve this article?
- First of all, please remember to sign your posts using "--~~~~".
- Second, can you please explain what actually needs to be improved? If you explain what needs to be done and it's simple enough we may be able to refer you to a bot. If it's about the suspected copyright violations tag on the page you may also want to go to Wikipedia:Copyright problems. --vgmddg (look | talk | do) 02:04, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
WikiProject National Football League has designed a new template (Template:NFLplayer) which simplifies the usual text that has to be inputted into roster templates. The previous formatting is * <span style="font-family: Courier New;">99</span> [[Player name]]
. After we have converted all current NFL roster templates to the new format, the NFL team season pages will have to have their roster templates converted as well. For the complete list of pages that would need to be changed, see Category:National Football League seasons. Essentially, a bot is requested to change * <span style="font-family: Courier New;">99</span> [[Player name]]
into {{NFLplayer|99|Player name}}
as well as the other specific parameters listed at Template:NFLplayer/doc. The new roster template is at Template:NFL roster also. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:49, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- That category has quite a few subcategories, pages, etc. Can you provide an example page where such a change would be made (or has been made)? Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 03:33, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- Just an example of where the change was made, [2], and the changes would be made at a page like 2007 New England Patriots season for all of the roster templates. Eagles 24/7 (C) 03:35, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
If some bot could be made to periodically go over CAT:AWBC and correct at least some of the pages it would be great. Most (but not all) of the pages in that category lack a title field when using {{cite web}}, which I believe some bots are capable of doing. The rest would probably need to be done by hand, so I would suggest tagging them for manual editing (say, in a new category Category:Articles with broken citations requiring manual attention. --Muhandes (talk) 12:30, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
- This shouldn't prove too difficult, and I can start looking into programming it; are there any other common but easily fixed errors? Hersfold (t/a/c) 12:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- I don't see how the other common errors can be automatically corrected, but I'll list them anyway:
- Using "archivedate" without "archiveurl". This is either because of a misunderstanding of what "archivedate" is for, which is corrected by removing the "archivedate", or because of forgetting, or making an error, in listing the archiveurl, which requires going to search where it is archived. Distinguishing between the cases is not always easy. If the link is not dead, someone may still want to use an archiving site and just make a mistake in listing the archiveurl.
- Using "archiveurl" without "archivedate". This actually can be corrected automatically if the website is http://www.archive.org. The date appears as part of the url. I'm not sure it's worth it though, it isn't that common, and can easily be done by hand.
- Listing the title after the url, without "|title=". Very common when people move from using [url title] to using {{cite web}}, but I don't see how it can be identified.
- Using {{cite web}} for a PDF, not providing a title. Must be done by hand.
- Anyway, I think adding a title when it is missing will solve 90% of the cases anyway, leaving maybe several a day, which can be done manually. If tagged in a category as I suggested, it would be easy to maintain.
- --Muhandes (talk) 14:35, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- If it requires a human judgment call as to what exactly the problem is, then it probably can't be easily managed by any bot. Unless you just want it to assume the first case and simply remove any instance of |archivedate= that doesn't have a |archiveurl= ?
- Do you have an example archive.org address I can use? This sounds managable, but those not on archive.org probably can't be fixed.
- This might be correctable with a few additions to the code I've already written. I'll have to check. - Edit: Added to code, but we'll see how it works in testing.
- Definitely can't be done by a bot, you're right, but at least I know to watch out for that now. I'll have the bot ignore any url ending in .pdf or .PDF. - Edit: Added to code.
- Also, I'm seeing a number of issues with the manual tracking category you suggested, but I do have an alternative. Rather than stick each article into a category, I can have the bot edit a page at the end of every run with a list of pages that need to have manual work done. We can link to this page from the main category, and pages will get removed from the list by the bot as their problems get corrected. Would that work? Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just passing through:
- Anomie⚔ 17:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks, Anomie. As for the PDF metadata, I'm not sure it would be worth the trouble. We'll see how often they come up. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:05, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
- Also, are there common errors with other citation templates that the bot could fix? This is probably less likely since presumably other templates don't involve the internet, but just in case. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
BRFA filed Hersfold (t/a/c) 05:56, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Apologies for not being here to answer swiftly, Rosh Hashana followed by Shabbat was three excruciating days this year. Everything you suggested is fine. Where human judgment is required I think it's better to leave it alone than to assume anything. I'm very fine with your page instead of category idea. I never looked at a PDF metadata so I can't say if it will be worth the trouble. As for other templates, all of them require manual handling I'm afraid. --Muhandes (talk) 22:54, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
- Since Hersfold has
withdrawn due to lack of time, and the category now has over 450 articles, I humbly request if someone else is willing to take this instead.--Muhandes (talk) 09:26, 17 November 2010 (UTC)