Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 August 19

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August 19

Intersections of fictional characters and occupations

Discussion moved to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 August 20 due to tagging delay. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 02:12, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Texas Education Agency categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete all. Kbdank71 13:42, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: This would seem to be overcategorization. --Eliyak T·C 20:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete all and possibly listify -- clearly not suitable for categories, first and foremost because these lists aren't static. Cgingold (talk) 10:30, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Los del Rio

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Kbdank71 13:43, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Redundant category. Only holds the duo's page, their song, and their album category. Los del Río (note the spelling) alreay serves as a sufficient navigational hub. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 17:35, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - eponymous overcategorization. Not needed to link the material. Otto4711 (talk) 00:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Groups targeted in the Holocaust

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The result of the discussion was: delete and merge back those articles which were moved into this category from Category:The Holocaust. –Black Falcon ^(Talk) 04:09, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Overcatting (these articles work just as well in the main Holocaust cat), vague (there's "War crimes against Serbs", the same against Soviet POWs, "History of Blacks in Germany", "Disability", "Freemasonry", "History of gay men in Nazi Germany", so the sense of "targeted" is unclear) and there's also some POV going on - these are all articles on smaller groups (the major groups, like Jews, Gypsys, and political movements aren't there) so there's likely some POV going on here as well. MSJapan (talk) 15:06, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Too broad. Would articles about the Poles, Russians and Belarusians fit there, when Nazis killed millions of people from these nations? - Darwinek (talk) 19:39, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People's Artists of Georgia

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn by nominator (see below for reason). Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:25, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:People's Artists of Georgia to Category:People's Artists of the Georgian SSR

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Change to actual (translated) name of this award. The actual untranslated name was საქართველოს სსრ სახალხო არტისტი. An accurate translation of this uses "Georgian SSR", not the expanded "Georgian Soviet Socialist Republic". (Kind of like the difference between using "Miss USA" and "Miss United States of America".) For more information, see People's Artist of the USSR, of which this award is a sub-type of. It's nothing to do with "Georgia" as an independent country. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:59, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per persuasive explanation. Cgingold (talk) 12:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Question: One of the parent cats is Category:Georgian culture, and I was about to switch that to one of the sub-cats, Category:Georgian artists. But of course, they're both part of the category structure of Category:Georgia (country), meaning that they're really intended for articles pertaining to the modern country of Georgia, not the former Soviet republic. So I'm not entirely sure that this category belongs anywhere in Category:Georgia (country), even though it's the direct successor to the Georgian SSR. Any thoughts? Cgingold (talk) 12:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, oh. I think this entire issue just got a whole lot more complicated. If you look at Category:People's Artists of the USSR, there's a See also list of related categories (for various former SSRs). And three of them (those for Armenia, Russia, and Ukraine) state that the category is for recipients of awards from both the Soviet and post-Soviet eras. Are you entirely sure that the same doesn't obtain in Georgia, as well? Cgingold (talk) 12:52, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hm, no, I'm not sure of that, and in searching the web I'm finding a few references to currently-living people who are called "People's Artists of Georgia". I think it might be a good idea for me to withdraw this one, pending further investigation. I'll try asking the category creator if they have more information. I'll renominate if what I have said is correct; if it has been in use by Georgia, the current name is probably fine. Thanks for your vigilance. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 22:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Beauty and the Beast songs

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. Kbdank71 13:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Beauty and the Beast songs to Category:Songs from Beauty and the Beast

Nominator's rationale: Rename. This and other films should be renamed to the conventions set for films, musicals, etc. The way these have been created has been reserved for artists. Wolfer68 (talk) 06:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also nominating:

Category:Bedknobs and Broomsticks songs to Category:Songs from Bedknobs and Broomsticks

Category:Disney's Cinderella songs to Category:Songs from Cinderella

Category:Chitty Chitty Bang Bang songs to Category:Songs from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang

Category:Dreamgirls songs to Category:Songs from Dreamgirls

Category:High School Musical songs to Category:Songs from High School Musical

Category:The Jungle Book songs to Category:Songs from The Jungle Book

Category:The Lion King songs to Category:Songs from The Lion King

Category:The Little Mermaid songs to Category:Songs from The Little Mermaid

Category:Mary Poppins songs to Category:Songs from Mary Poppins

Category:Over Here! songs to Category:Songs from Over Here!

Category:Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs songs to Category:Songs from Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs

Category:Xanadu songs to Category:Songs from Xanadu

adding:

Category:Rocky Horror songs to Category:Songs from Rocky Horror

Category:Snoopy Come Home songs to Category:Songs from Snoopy Come Home

Category:Summer Magic songs to Category:Songs from Summer Magic

Category:The Tigger Movie songs to Category:Songs from The Tigger Movie

Category:Tom Sawyer songs to Category:Songs from Tom Sawyer

Category:Songs of the Phantom of the Opera to Category:Songs from The Phantom of the Opera

--Wolfer68 (talk) 06:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename all per nom, consistent with naming convention. There are also 5 or 6 more sub-cats of Category:Songs from musicals that should be added to this CFD for renaming. Cgingold (talk) 08:29, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename all. I added the missing categories from Category:Songs from musicals.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:41, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Canadian Soccer League (1986–1992)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:45, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Canadian Soccer League (1986-1992) to Canadian Soccer League (1986–1992)

Nominator's rationale: WP:DASH —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:15, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prefer Category:Canadian Soccer League (1986 – 1992), with spaces between the years and dash Mayumashu (talk) 05:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. From WP:DASH: "All disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either or both of the items (the New York – Sydney flight; the New Zealand – South Africa grand final; July 3, 1888 – August 18, 1940, but July–August 1940)." There are no spaces within either of the items, so the spacing proposed by Mayumashu would not be appropriate. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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International Hockey League (2007–present) players

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:International Hockey League (2007-present) players - Category:International Hockey League (2007–present) players

Nominator's rationale: WP:DASH —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prefer' Category:International Hockey League (2007 – present), with spaces Mayumashu (talk) 05:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. From WP:DASH: "All disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either or both of the items (the New York – Sydney flight; the New Zealand – South Africa grand final; July 3, 1888 – August 18, 1940, but July–August 1940)." There are no spaces within either of the items, so the spacing proposed by Mayumashu would not be appropriate. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Kalamazoo Wings (2000–present) players

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Kalamazoo Wings (2000-) players - Category:Kalamazoo Wings (2000–present) players

Nominator's rationale: WP:DASH, possibly insert "present," leave that up to consensus. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:07, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prefer Category:Kalamazoo Wings (2000 – present) with spaces. Support use of 'present' Mayumashu (talk) 05:49, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per nom. From WP:DASH: "All disjunctive en dashes are unspaced, except when there is a space within either or both of the items (the New York – Sydney flight; the New Zealand – South Africa grand final; July 3, 1888 – August 18, 1940, but July–August 1940)." There are no spaces within either of the items, so the spacing proposed by Mayumashu would not be appropriate. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Categories:Trinidad and Tobago people

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. Kbdank71 13:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming

Category:Trindadian sociologists (misspelled too) to Category:Trinidad and Tobago sociologists
Category:Trinidadian academics to Category:Trinidad and Tobago academics
Category:Trinidadian jazz musicians to Category:Trinidad and Tobago jazz musicians
Category:Trinidadian drummers to Category:Trinidad and Tobago drummers
Category:Trinidadian musicians to Category:Trinidad and Tobago musicians
Category:Trinidadian Hindus to Category:Trinidad and Tobago Hindus
Category:Fictional Trinidadians to Category:Fictional Trinidad and Tobago people

Nominator's rationale: as per conventional naming for people of the country of Trinidad and Tobago, as in Category:Trinidad and Tobago people Mayumashu (talk) 04:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom for consistency. We've moved away from "Trinidadian", I think it's safe to say. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:47, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Rename. Yes, please.--Mike Selinker (talk) 18:42, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Killian documents

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Kbdank71 13:47, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename to Category:Killian documents controversy. The category deals with the controversy surrounding the documents; main article is at Killian documents controversy. Cgingold (talk) 02:45, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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