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Category:City and town halls in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus for this proposal. There's a lot of different suggestions flying around; a new nomination with specifics at the outset may be helpful. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:32, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:City and town halls in the United States to Category:Seats of local government in the United States

Nominator's rationale: Rename. As currently titled, it does not match the parent and excludes village halls. This was included in a multipart rename request a while ago that resulted in no consensus to move any of the categories. So I'm bring this one back for a discussion on it's merits. Vegaswikian (talk) 22:15, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment wouldn't renaming it so make it also a place to collect county governments? 65.95.13.213 (talk) 04:37, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Not based on the main article. Vegaswikian (talk) 05:30, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - Surely a county government is local government (as opposed to national government), whatever the article might say? Occuli (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. I don't myself see any objection to including county government seats, as a subcat perhaps. Occuli (talk) 10:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not opposed to renaming the category, but I can't support the proposed new name. It would create the potential for confusion with Category:County seats of the United States. - Eureka Lott 19:31, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose / alternative suggestion. Category:Local government buildings in the United States would match parent category Category:Government buildings in the United States and sister category Category:State government buildings in the United States. Neutrality^talk 23:58, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:Local government buildings in the United States is imprecise for the intended purpose. The local highway department garage is a local government building. The local hospital operated by a city is a local government building. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
do not rename This category name is proper for its content and thus serves the purpose of categories: navigation. The Category:Local government buildings in the United States which I just created is the parent category and, of course, includes more than just city and town halls. By the way, the category structure makes clear the distinction between county government and local government as the distinction is maintained in the real world. Hmains (talk) 03:34, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- OK, that is a fair point. What about Category:Local government administration buildings in the United States? Alternatively, we could separate out municipal and county buildings: Category:Municipal government buildings in the United States (or the somewhat more unwieldy Category:City, town, village, and borough halls in the United States) and Category:County government buildings in the United States This would address some editors' concerns. It seems silly to separate out Category:City and town halls in the United States and Category:Village halls in the United States, which are extremely similar. A sister category would be Category:Municipal government buildings in Canada. Neutrality^talk 05:01, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I'd be happy if we called it Category:City halls in the United States and left it at that. It's simple, understandable, and the details can be covered in the category description. However, I expect that won't satisfy everyone. - Eureka Lott 13:36, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Social History

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The result of the discussion was: speedy merge per speedy criterion C2A. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 09:12, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Social History to Category:Social history

Nominator's rationale: Speedy merge Capitalization is the sole distinction between the two categories. Pichpich (talk) 21:44, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment isn't there a CSD for this? 65.95.13.213 (talk) 03:49, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:City and town halls in Austria

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The result of the discussion was: Keep. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:City and town halls in Austria to Category:City halls in Austria

Nominator's rationale: Rename. Only contains a city hall. Dual named categories and not favored when the distinction between the two entities is clear. Renaming to the plural of 'Rathaus' is also an option. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:23, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments – there are potentially quite a few of these: see de:Kategorie:Rathaus in Österreich. According to Rathaus the plural is Rathäuser. But why not choose 'Seats of local government in Austria', per one parent, and per the above US discussion? Occuli (talk) 10:09, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- The suggestion was based on the fact that it only has cities at the present time and Category:Rathäuser in Austria could be the preferred local use over city and town halls. I have no objection to using Category:Seats of local government in Austria if that is where consensus is. If we approve seats here and in the discussion above, we probably need to nominate most of the remaining siblings for uniformity. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:33, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: Most of the subcategories (15) are “City and town halls in …” and the category should be named to cover future not just existing articles eg one about a town hall in Austria. The existing categories Category:City halls in Australia , Category:City halls in Belgium and Category:Town halls in the Czech Republic should be renamed to “City and town halls” also as the categories for Australia and Belgium both include town halls and the Czech Republic a city hall. Also some town halls eg Sydney Town Hall and Auckland Town Hall are actually in cities (and are now mainly auditoriums, with most of the city administration elsewhere) Hugo999 (talk) 02:08, 22 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Requests for uninvolved help

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The result of the discussion was: Delete/Merge Category:Requests for uninvolved help (Other) to Category:Requests for uninvolved help. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:33, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Requests for uninvolved help to Category:Requests for uninvolved help (Other)

Nominator's rationale: All articles from 1 are in the other. It is pretty much the same thing. ~~EBE123~~ ^talk_Contribs 20:50, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge: I agree with Ebe123. It should be merged.--The wikifyer's corner 18:45, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Category:Requests for uninvolved help (Other), keep the one with the simpler name. These are populated by the same template, so there's nothing to merge. Jafeluv (talk) 08:59, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Tall buildings and structures in London

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:50, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Tall buildings and structures in London to Category:Buildings and structures in London

Propose merging Category:Low and mid rise commercial buildings in London to Category:Buildings and structures in London

Propose deleting Category:Buildings and structures in London by height

Nominator's rationale: Merge. Tall is ambiguous so it is not an appropriate objective inclusion criteria for a category. If anyone wants to confirm that all of the articles have an appropriate London buildings and structures category that these buildings are also in, then Delete is an acceptable conclusion. There is already List of tallest buildings and structures in London which provides adequate navigation. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:31, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Merge per nom. Category:Low and mid rise commercial buildings in London and their parent Category:Buildings and structures in London by height should be added to the nomination. Tim! (talk) 06:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Ok added. If for some reason there is a decision to not delete Category:Buildings and structures in London by height, it should also be upmerged to Category:Buildings and structures in London. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:07, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge/delete all. Neutrality^talk 00:08, 20 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. Tall is subjective. If it were defined it would just be arbitrary and so violate other category rules.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:26, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:ÍA Akranes players

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to ~~Category:Íþróttabandalag Akraness players players~~ Category:Íþróttabandalag Akraness players. Jafeluv (talk) 08:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC) Edit: Fixed typo in the original closure. Jafeluv (talk) 11:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:ÍA Akranes players to Category:ÍA players

Nominator's rationale: I think the "Akranes" part of the category name is unnecessary. ÍA is short for Íþróttabandalag Akraness (note that "Akraness" is the adjectival form of "Akranes") so the place name is effectively being repeated. Category:ÍA players would be a good enough name, as then the category would match the parent article's name. Big Dom 18:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename but to Category:Íþróttabandalag Akraness players per Íþróttabandalag Akraness. (ÍA is a redirect.) Occuli (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per Occuli's suggestion. In general abreviations should be avoided in category names.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:27, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Articles with Alice and Bob explanations

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. Jafeluv (talk) 08:56, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Delete. Categorizing articles on the basis of what sort of explanatory text they use is beyond trivial. If I wanted to be cheeky I could suggest that the category entails original research since many of the articles do not explicitly contain reference either to Alice or Bob. Harley Hudson (talk) 14:55, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, I just happened on that category and was looking for its purpose. I don't see that it is a useful classification for a reader, although it made me smile. It was hidden a while ago, but it's not used as a cleanup category. Without any apparent purpose, I agree that it should be deleted. Amalthea 14:08, 26 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Brussels Ladies Open

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Brussels Ladies Open to Category:Brussels Open

Nominator's rationale: According to this, the events name is Brussels Open. Armbrust ^{Talk to me} _Contribs 12:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename – and also Brussels Open. Occuli (talk) 12:28, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Sebastian albums

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:54, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Sebastian albums to Category:Sebastian (French electro artist) albums

Nominator's rationale: per main article —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:10, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename – per article Sebastian (French electro artist). (Sebastian indicates several alternatives who might have albums.) Occuli (talk) 09:12, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Shakespearean authorship

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The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:40, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Shakespearean authorship to Category:Shakespeare authorship question

Nominator's rationale: Per main article —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 02:04, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The main article summarizes the "question" - most individual articles don't. Johnbod (talk) 12:39, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rename. The category is about things related to the question.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:28, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bradford Durfee College of Technology

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Only one article. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:27, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Berkshire Community College

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, category has grown since nomination and is part of a recognised scheme. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Only one article —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:24, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Now has two articles in the cat and two populated sub-categories that are only likely to grow with time. This is part of the normal university category tree system used at wikipedia.4meter4 (talk) 22:16, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alabama A&M University

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory ^(talk) 23:52, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Alabama A&M University to Category:Alabama Agricultural and Mechanical University

Nominator's rationale: Per main article. If this passes, subcat.s should be speedy. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:16, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rename per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:08, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Rename to match parent article.--Lenticel ^(talk) 00:44, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. In other cases like Category:Texas A&M University the A&M abbreviation is used.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:36, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The analogy is inapt as officially, the A&M in the Texas institution/system's name is no longer an abbreviation for anything (see intro of Texas A&M University). For the most part, articles follow the institution's official name: North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, California State University, Sacramento as opposed to North Carolina A&T, Virginia Tech, or Sacramento State. Florida A&M University is the other outlier.- choster (talk) 20:46, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alvernia University

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The result of the discussion was: Keep, category has grown since nomination and is part of a recognised scheme. Timrollpickering (talk) 16:28, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Too few articles. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:14, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep there are now 3 articles in this category and an additional 3 in the one sub-category. This category may well grow in the near future.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:35, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There are now two sub-categories which are populated with articles. This should be kept as a normal part of the university category tree system.4meter4 (talk) 22:01, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Bristol Community College

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The result of the discussion was: Delete. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 08:15, 23 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nominator's rationale: Too few articles. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 01:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Occuli (talk) 13:07, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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