April 28
Category:Interstate Highways in Georgia (U.S. state)
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- The result of the discussion was: do not rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Rename. "Georgia (U.S. state) is only Wikipedia's terminology to distinguish it from the country in Asia. It makes no sense here because the country in Asia called Georgia is not part of the United States and has no Interstate highways. Georgia guy (talk) 21:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. The name as used is consistent throughout the category trees and in this case is consistent with Category:Interstate Highways in Washington (state). Vegaswikian (talk) 22:47, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Strong oppose Georgia should always be disambiguated. Further, there are highways that lead between Georgia (country) and other countries (states), thus being interstate (international) highways. -- 65.94.171.206 (talk) 23:04, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. How are they "interstate"?? Do they form any official system?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:18, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. For all categories regarding "Georgia-the-state", the format is Georgia (U.S. state). For all categories regarding Georgia-the-country, the format is "Georgia (country)". And never the twain should meet, because that way confusion lies. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:22, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment. Just as if "Georgia (U.S. state)" were the state's actual name?? Georgia guy (talk) 00:25, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- No. Per the naming conventions, the place is called Georgia. The (U.S. state) is added to clarify which one it is. Vegaswikian (talk) 01:27, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- And it is not needed here because the country has no Interstate highways. Interstate highways belong to the United States only. Georgia guy (talk) 01:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not how categorisation works. ALL categories regarding Georgia-the-state are "Georgia (U.S. state)". No exceptions. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:10, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Why?? "U.S. state" is just a dis-ambiguator; it's not part of the state's name. Georgia guy (talk) 14:52, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- @Georgia guy: Nobody said it is part of the state's name. Have you missed all the comments from other editors explaining how the principle of consistency is applied across all category names? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:58, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- (ec) @Georgia guy: I have no idea what labels the caucasian nation of Georgia applies to its major roads, so looking at the "interstate" bit merely tells me that this might be either Georgia. The "(U.S. state)" disambiguator tells me which one it is.
BTW, please note that the principle consistency of category names is so long established that it is a criterion for speedy renaming: WP:C2C. If you want to overturn the principle of consistency, then I suggest that you open an RFC. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:17, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose. For clarity, it is best to use the same format for the state's name in all categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:10, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Category:U.S. Highways in Georgia (U.S. state): anal rule-following at its best. --NE2 17:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment if ALL categories even unambiguous ones (as this is) that reference the US State of Georgia have the "(U.S. state)" appendage, this should match, if not then it ought be lopped off as it's only purpose is to disambiguate and there is no ambiguity here because the country of Georgia has no Interstate Highways (capitalized thusly). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:15, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I agree that categories that clearly pertain to the United States and not a separate nation-state could omit the "(U.S. state)" portion but I've made proposals like this and they have failed based on opinions expressed above. So, I support your nomination and know, at the same time, that it will never be approved. Liz Read! Talk! 21:37, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lance Spearman
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:04, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Not enough material for this eponymous category. Pichpich (talk) 20:34, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete What concerns me here is that there are no parent categories linking Category:Lance Spearman to other Wikipedia categories so this is a completely isolated category containing two articles. This makes it almost impossible for users to find if they are looking for similar articles. So, while I believe in small cats, I don't see that this one is providing much utility. Liz Read! Talk! 21:41, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:List of Lazish musicians
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:03, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: This isn't a list - it's a category. Could be merged somewhere, but as it contains just one article it might be better to start from scratch. DexDor (talk) 19:43, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Thuyet Buon Vua
Category:Zbečník
Category:User took part in Valoriser ses connaissances avec Wikipédia Workshop
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (Note: seems to be populated from the template page Wikipedia:Wikimédia France/Workshop banner.) – Fayenatic London 13:01, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose deleting Category:User took part in Valoriser ses connaissances avec Wikipédia Workshop (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: This doesn't look like a long-term category and I'm not sure it belongs on the English language Wikipedia. If kept it probably needs to be renamed to something beginning with "Wikipedia". Could be listified (I'm not sure where to though). DexDor (talk) 19:33, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Looking at the original category created by Superrabbit001, it's clear that there was some confusion on what a category should be...it was a combination of an article and a category. The creator edited for one month and then stopped and I'm not sure if this category is needed beyond the lifetime of the workshop. Liz Read! Talk! 21:57, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Morton A. Brody Distinguished Judicial Service Award recipients
Category:Strategic bomber
Category:Shogi players
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:56, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: unnecessary capitalization Greg Bard (talk) 15:00, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:UK MPs 2010– stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: delete, although I will listify it at the project talk page. – Fayenatic London 14:05, 29 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. For stub sorting, this sets a curious precedent. Politicians are typically stub sorted by either politicial party, or by year of birth. Sorting by year of election would naturally lead to excessive stub-tagging for career politicians. Dawynn (talk) 14:08, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep until the next general election. As a general rule, I agree that stub-tagging by year of election could get horribly cluttersome, and should be avoided. However, this category groups the most recent intake, after the 2010 general election, which as by far the biggest new intake for some time: 247 MPs serving in the current parliament were not in the previous one.
Huge progress has been made in expanding these articles, and only 17 remain as stubs. Please let's keep the category to help get the rest of them to be unstubbed while the sources on them remain readily available.
After the next general election, I would support deleting this stub type, but creating a new Category:UK MPs 2015– stubs, to help editors focus on the next new intake. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:20, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- WikiProject Politics of the United Kingdom has been notified. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:25, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- OK. Just seems a safe bet to me to give it a definitve end period. At least you don't then waste time on having to rename a category and update 600+ articles. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:31, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- @Lugnuts: If a change is needed, the bots will not find the job onerous. And I doubt that there will be 600 stubs, even at the start of the parliament. Maybe 150 if an an unusually high number of seats change hands, many of which will be rapidly unstubbed. Look how few are left for the current Parliament? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:36, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- To clarify, I meant the 600+ figure in relation to the parent category, and likewise with the one for the next parliament. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:56, 30 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Thelema stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. Dawynn (talk) 01:14, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Delete. Underpopulated stub category. Propose keeping template but upmerging to Category:Occult stubs. Delete category. Dawynn (talk) 14:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tech noir
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- The result of the discussion was: upmerge the one article remaining, Tech noir, to Category:Neo-noir. Films so described may be listed in that article. 82.152.43.126 (talk) 11:03, 30 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: Majority of articles that were members of this category did not verifiably belong to the category. Very few entries remaining, though it might be possible to rebuild the list with greater attention to verifiability of category members. Lead for category is unclear and includes statements that should be sourced. A list may be a preferable option. DonIago (talk) 13:37, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- There are a couple of books about tech noir as seen here and here. My impression is that this category is more academic than mainstream, meaning that film critics do not seem to use the term "tech noir" in their reviews. I think this suggests that it would be difficult to try to state and reference this term in each film article to make the category verifiable. I think a list article (one that can be linked to through "See also" sections) would be a better way to organize films under this particular genre. These are my thoughts so far, and I'm not quite sure about outright deletion of this category. Others' input would be appreciated. Erik (talk | contrib) (ping me) 15:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I'd support listification; among other things it would be easier to monitor than categories tend to be. It might be possible to establish the appropriate film articles as belonging to this category without the full terminology being used, but I think we'd need to be careful to avoid synthesis issues, and the category page would need to be clear about where we draw the line. With most of the articles I delisted, the word "noir" wasn't even used anywhere, which would be an obvious problem. DonIago (talk) 15:56, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Legislative Assembly elections in India
Category:Washington (state) road stubs
Category:TIME 100 Most Influential People in the World
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:59, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: This is not even an award presented to someone based on merit, it is a measure of their influence, and at least 100 of these 'spots' are handed out every year. Per ocat we should not do cats based on top-100-lists per Wikipedia:OC#TOPTEN. Additionally, membership on these lists is not defining of these people.--Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 11:33, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Film shooting locations
Category:Free
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Free goods and services, without prejudice to a future nomination for deletion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:54, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Propose renaming Category:Free to Category:Free ____
- Nominator's rationale: There has to be a better name that just "Free". Also, it's subcategorized under Category:Money, implying that these are all things which don't cost anything but a lot of these software/cultural products do cost money while allowing users to amend/share/adapt freely. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:25, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- leaning to delete along with all subcats I have to question the existence of this whole structure. For the most part we're talking an incidental property of whatever the category is talking about, as for example the various publishers who have released works under licenses which allow copying. Things that are free may cease to be so, and things that are not free may come to be so; therefore this tends to be a directory of things that are free at the moment. (And yes, I understand that the CC licenses are effectively permanent.) I can see keeping subcats which talk about the ways in which things are free, but WP:NOTDEFINING otherwise tends to cover the whole category structure. Mangoe (talk) 12:23, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- rename to free goods and services explaining that this is about free-as -in-beer, not free-as-in-speech, and purge of all open content related stuff, keeping as a see also link instead (I think there's a container for open content somewhere --Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) 14:09, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Rename to Category:Gratis or Category:Free as in gratis or Category:Free (gratis) -- 65.94.171.206 (talk) 23:07, 28 April 2014 (UTC)----[reply]
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Category:List of Nicaraguan Film Historians
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- The result of the discussion was: Speedy delete WP:G7 — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 03:33, 3 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- Nominator's rationale: only one person here (the author also wrote on my page about this) Wgolf (talk) 03:00, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
- I deleted the cat off the persons page per request of the author-I also just put a empty deletion tag on there.Wgolf (talk) 03:03, 28 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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