Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 December 17

December 17

Category:Private clubs

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete/merge as nominated. I will however selectively merge any members that would otherwise be removed from Category:Clubs and societies altogether. – Fayenatic London 22:37, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. I was going to suggest an upmerge to Category:Clubs and societies, but most or all of the material seems to be in various subcategories there. What exactly is a private club? It is somewhat ambiguous and private club redirects to club. Do we really need to categorize a dinning club and a yacht club as private clubs? Is a private golf course really a private club? Better to delete and recreate something in the future, if needed, with fewer problems. Vegaswikian (talk) 21:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: shouldn't the sub-cat Category:Private clubs in the United States and its several further sub-cats be considered with this one? – Fayenatic London 22:16, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge/Upmerge including "private clubs" to "clubs". A better way of organising this content would be by interest/purpose. The fact that a club is private or public is not very definitive or distinguishing from the rest of the material. SFB 13:16, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose A little googling for "private club" shows that people out in the Real World seem to think there is such a thing, so I'm not persuaded by our eight year old failure to write the article. I think there is something to be said for a reorganization along a better set of type categories, but indiscriminate upmerge doesn't seem to me to be a reasonable approach. Mangoe (talk) 13:31, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Fictional bartenders

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The result of the discussion was: keep. – Fayenatic London 23:33, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: being more inclusive is better then creating more categories. --76.175.67.121 (talk) 21:35, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Muslim communities by continent

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. The parent "by continent" was deleted following Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 August 5#Category:Muslim communities by continent Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 August 5#Category:Muslim communities by continent, but although these categories for each continent were tagged, they were not listed for deletion. I am making this as a procedural listing, without expressing a view either way. – Fayenatic London 17:17, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per prior result - per continent is not a good way to organize ethnic/community articles. Unless someone can show that Muslim communities in Continent A differ from those in Continent B, but I doubt it, given that general Muslim view that one's religion and one's geographic location are not related (see Ummah vs. Sha'ab). Carlossuarez46 (talk) 01:33, 11 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep The purpose of categories is to help readers navigate to articles and these categories serve that purpose. Certainly, there can no argument that these groups are somehow not important and not interesting subjects of study. Category:Muslim communities in Africa has 11 subcategories and 61 direct articles. Many of these groups are transnational, having existed long before the current African states. Without this category, there is nothing in WP to connect these groups together as being located in Africa. Same with Category:Muslim communities in Asia with its 7 subcats and 6 direct articles. Category:Muslim communities in Europe has 2 subcats and 171 direct articles--but this category needs cleanup as it has many national articles that don't belong here and are very arguably not communities such as are found in the Africa category. Cleanup requirements do not equal deletion. Neither do arguments about the tenants of Islam. These categories are about groups of people, not religious doctrine. Hmains (talk) 06:15, 13 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep -- the African category is largely about Muslim majority tribes. This contrasts with the by country categories where I am voting differently. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:14, 15 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, per Hmains. 92.19.28.179 (talk) 01:24, 3 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Relisting comment: relist desirable because I gave a wrong link to the previous CFD in the nomination, now corrected above.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 21:19, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Webb School alumni

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 23:34, 3 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Current name is ambiguous and to match the parent category. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:04, 17 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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