Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 July 11

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July 11

female art historians

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename. This category has a main article Women in the art history field but that would not make a good category name. – Fayenatic London 06:48, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 2009–

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: Rename. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 14:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 2009– to Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 2009–14
Nominator's rationale: Rename. A new legislature has been elected, see Andhra Pradesh Legislature. A new category exists Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature, 2014– so this should be renamed per Category:Members of the Andhra Pradesh Legislature. Tassedethe (talk) 23:49, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lynd Ward

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:53, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Insufficient content for eponymous category. The subcat and main article now have sufficient direct links between them. – Fayenatic London 22:42, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Arts occupations by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:55, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Category:People in arts occupations contains biographies, whereas Category:Arts occupations has articles on types of jobs. (Disclosure: I have just created the parent Category:People in arts occupations as a split from Category:Arts occupations and Category:Visual arts occupations.) – Fayenatic London 21:19, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Islamic art historians

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 07:22, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films about Afghanistan

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:56, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: An old outlier category that seems to duplicate and overlap with our existing structures for Category:Films set in Afghanistan, Category:Films shot in Afghanistan, and Category:Documentary films about Afghanistan. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:01, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Naval architects

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The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. – Fayenatic London 07:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect. The Naval architecture article says "also known as Naval engineering". The nominated category has been here since 2007, and the target since 2004. The French wiki category has been named likewise since 2006: fr:Catégorie:Ingénieur et architecte naval. – Fayenatic London 15:58, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Maybe rename simply to Category:Naval engineers? Naval architecture says A naval architect is an engineer. There is a difference between the branch of science/design and what we call the practitioners. I'm not sure from the limited research I did, but naval engineer clearly is a leading contender. I will note that the BLS does classify them as Marine Engineers and Naval Architects. So... Vegaswikian (talk) 17:26, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge for now. It would probably better to consider a rename with a separate proposal that has full notice to the intended category.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:47, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose -- The target is a mess. It contains a few genuine engineers concerned with shipbuilding, but the majority seem to be shipbuilders or shipwrights, including some who rose to be surveyor of the Royal Navy. One person wioth the suffix engineer turned out to be a military engineer who had served on baord ship as a gunner. I suspect that the problem with Naval architect may be that its lead lacks hisotrical perspective. An engineer in the Navy is the officer who looks after the engines. I would prefer to see the handful of people in the target who were mechanical engineers purged inot a separate category, leaving the shipbuilders in the present category, which could then be merged with the naval architects, perhaps renamed to shipbuilders. Those who were more concerned with design than building should go into the ship and boat designers category. Peterkingiron (talk) 15:44, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • oppose per PKI. Marine engineering starts off by distinguishing marine engineers as something unrelated to design. Really it is the second category that needs to be split up. Mangoe (talk) 20:27, 20 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you to the opposers. I am withdrawing this, and may propose the second one for splitting instead. – Fayenatic London 07:25, 2 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chello Zone

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename. Chellomedia was renamed AMC Networks International this week and most pages related to it are under the Chello Zone category. Bbb2007 (talk) 15:45, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Parliament of Ontario

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The result of the discussion was: rename (unanimous discussion). – Fayenatic London 08:19, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: While the legislative house of the Canadian province of Ontario is sometimes referred to as provincial parliament (e.g. members style themselves as MPPs, or Members of Provincial Parliament, even though the relevant statute calls them "members of the Assembly"), and the legislature's sessions are often referred to as parliaments, the body actually calls itself the Ontario Legislative Assembly and Section 69 of the Constitution which created the body also calls it by that name. Google searches show that Ontario Legislative Assembly, or even Ontario legislature, is by far more commonly used than variations of Ontario Parliament. Skeezix1000 (talk) 15:05, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Recently created duplicate article. Same editor who created that article created this category tree. And, apologies, I erroneously referred to the Ontario Legislative Assembly above. --Skeezix1000 (talk) 16:41, 13 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Petroleum industry

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The result of the discussion was: merge Category:Oil and gas industry to Category:Petroleum industry, keep others. – Fayenatic London 10:05, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge. Proposing merger per this Cfd discussion. As right now there are two different level categories, it is hard to make distinction which article should be categorized in which category. There is also some overlapping. Beagel (talk) 13:23, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. My original proposal included only merger of category:Petroleum industry and category:Oil and gas industry.Beagel (talk) 06:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Oil and gas industry regions of Ukraine

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The result of the discussion was: delete (unanimous discussion). I also made the list that I suggested below. – Fayenatic London 08:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Obsolete category. There are no specific oil and gas industry regions in Ukraine but the category just includes administrative units on which territories oil and gas industry upstream operations are carried out. These are not historical regions, and does not include regions which have midstream or downstream industries. There is no similar categories for other countries. As a rule we do not categorize administrative units by industries on their territory. The only exception I could recall is Category:Coal mining regions in Europe and its subcategories by country. That also needs a proper discussion; however, these categories are not submitted now. Beagel (talk) 13:14, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Concepts beginning with "big"

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The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 10:00, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Delete. Seems to be overcategorization by shared naming characteristic. There's nothing else that unites the articles that are categorized. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:23, 11 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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