Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2017 August 4

August 4

Category:Courtroom dramas

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: split to Category:Courtroom dramas, Category:Courtroom drama television series and Category:Courtroom drama plays, Category:Courtroom novels and Category:Courtroom films. @Bearcat: please go ahead. – Fayenatic London 21:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category which indiscriminately lumps films, television shows, novels and theatrical plays together specifically on the basis of a courtroom setting. While this may be a perfectly valid genre subcategory within the plays, television series, drama films and/or novels trees, it is not a criterion that cuts across all of those different kinds of content as a suitable basis for a single catchall category. Note that Category:Courtroom films already exists as a subcategory, so I haven't included it as a new target here, although some things filed in this category will have to be diffused into it. Bearcat (talk) 22:17, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Crimes in ancient history

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ℯxplicit 04:29, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Following Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2017_June_28#Medieval_crimes, the medieval categories have been broadened from "crimes" to "crime", and it seems appropriate to rename the category for the ancient period likewise. It already contains Category:Ancient criminals, but that one's other parent Category:Criminals is in the Category:Crime hierarchy rather than Category:Crimes. – Fayenatic London 21:45, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:San Juan Jabloteh players

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The result of the discussion was: rename. ℯxplicit 04:29, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: should match parent category Category:San Juan Jabloteh F.C. and article name San Juan Jabloteh F.C. Joeykai (talk) 19:51, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eneco Tour

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The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 21:51, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Eneco Tour to Category:BinckBank Tour
Nominator's rationale: rename category to match with the recently renamed main article BinckBank Tour which is the name that is on the tour's website. A speedy nomination was declined. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
copy of discussion for speedy renaming
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Category:People from Valatie, New York

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). Marcocapelle (talk) 07:07, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small one-county community with just two entries, one of which is a redirect and questionable. Does living one's last years in a town's nursing home make them from there? ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 15:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:European Heritage Label

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ℯxplicit 04:29, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:NONDEF, most of the articles don't even mention this label at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:46, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 14:43, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Inventions by country

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ℯxplicit 04:29, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Clarification still needed - What are our criteria for an "invention by country"? This has festered on for years and we're no better off. These categories are still no more than a playpen for POV nationalist socks. Is a "Croatian invention" one in Croatia, by a Croatian, by a Croatian ex-pat, or by someone with Croatian ancestry a century earlier? Is sourcing required for these claims? Or is WP:V to be ignored for these? Andy Dingley (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But such a statement needs more authority behind it than just one editor's footnote. The long-running sock wars won't be deflected by that. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:52, 20 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The CFD banner & link was on the talk page; now moved to the category page
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 14:05, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment -- There are a number of category trees where the inclusion criteria is not 100% clear (e.g. "People from..." categories) so I would think we just need to use common sense. If there is a questionable inclusion it can be discussed on the relevant article's Talk page. There doesn't seem to be a proposal to delete, rename or merge here anyway! Sionk (talk) 14:14, 12 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Ancient decades by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. ℯxplicit 04:29, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note on implementation: this required changes to the templates {{EstcatCountryDecade}} and {{DisestcatCountryDecade}}. – Fayenatic London 07:28, 18 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]


more decades by country
more establishments by decade and country
more disestablishments by decade and country
Nominator's rationale: upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, as a mere housekeeping nomination. After this discussion and this discussion the content of ancient decades by country has mostly been reduced to just one (Roman/Byzantine Empire) subcategory. So we no longer need a by-country layer for decades. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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