Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 August 31

August 31

Category:Actors at the Royal Exchange, Manchester

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) DannyS712 (talk) 02:56, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:PERFCAT explicitly states "Avoid categorizing performers by an appearance at an event or other performance venue." Bearcat (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:China–Taiwan border

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The result of the discussion was: redirect. bibliomaniac15 06:41, 19 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant to Category:Taiwan Strait, which all of the boundary between actual PRC- and ROC-controlled territory, and obvious POV naming issues. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 18:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Erdős number

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 18:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
and its subcategories
Nominator's rationale: This category and its subcategories are newly created as categories for people, listing them by their Erdős numbers. It is non-defining (only important enough to list in a biographical article at all for close collaborators of Erdős with number=1, and usually not even then, certainly not in the lead), variable (it can change whenever any of the listed people publishes an article with a new collaborator with a lower number), requires original research to calculate (there is a reasonably-accurate database of people with number=2, and the American Mathematical Society has a web site that calculates short paths that go only through papers that it lists, but beyond that you have to do it through your own searching), and likely inaccurate. It is better handled by a list, not a category, and that list exists (limited to number=3). If the people are removed from its subcategories, only the article on Erdős numbers and the list would remain, failing WP:SMALLCAT. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:08, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Animated films featuring female antagonists

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:30, 6 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Convert Category:Animated films featuring female antagonists to article List of animated films featuring female antagonists
Nominator's rationale: The use of terms such as protagonist and antagonist has been contentious in the past, to the point that WP:PROTAGONIST was created as a way of addressing original research concerns. Converting this category into a list will allow sources to be provided clearly establishing that the film belongs as a member of the list. DonIago (talk) 17:05, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:CRM-software for MacOS

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 October 29#Category:CRM-software for MacOS

Cities in Northern Ireland by county and sub-categories

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The result of the discussion was: delete, merging content to Category:Cities in Northern Ireland. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:33, 2 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This and its four sub-categories have just been created, and only serve to make navigation much more difficult. Category:Cities in Northern Ireland did the job perfectly well, since Northern Ireland only has five cities. I guess the nomination might technically be an up-merge back into Category:Cities in Northern Ireland, this isn't really my area. Strike through, categories were added, none removed. FDW777 (talk) 14:01, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete a clear case of WP:SMALLCAT grouping them in cities in Northern Ireland and Towns in County X (or similar) seems perfectly sufficient since each of the 7 cities are in different counties and a category with 78 pages is perfectly small enough not to need sub dividing, yes we usually do categorize by county but not in cases where each only has 1. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:17th century in Egypt

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The result of the discussion was: rename. MER-C 18:10, 12 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: to match parent category:centuries in Ottoman Egypt and article Ottoman Egypt and in parallel with the reconstruction of category:Centuries in Ottoman Syria tree per [1]. We have already renamed early CE centuries in Roman Egypt into an according categories of category:centuries in Roman Egypt - see Roman Egypt categories rename (2017).GreyShark (dibra) 07:41, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Films released during the COVID-19 pandemic

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The result of the discussion was: delete. MER-C 18:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I don't feel like this is a notable categorization to have, in the context of the pandemic. We already have appropriate ones for films postponed and those that altered their release plans from theaters to VOD, but I don't see the need for this category. They would just be 2020 films included in Category:2020 films. - Favre1fan93 (talk) 03:23, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. So far the pandemic is roughly contemporaneous with the year 2020, and the films released during this time do not otherwise have some characteristic which relates to the period of the pandemic. BD2412 T 04:20, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete During this COVID-19 pandemic, we have seen films being released on OTT platforms which make sense as filmmakers can't keep their films on stock for a long time. I don't think there is a need to have a separate category like this. Abishe (talk) 15:59, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support The reason why I created it is because there was a keyword from IMDb called "film released during covid 19", so I felt like creating the category. Besides, who knows how long the COVID-19 pandemic will go? And Unhinged, The New Mutants, Bill & Ted Face the Music, Peninsula, and Tenet are the first movies to be released during the pandemic. Ebb1993 (talk)
  • Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:32, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete I don't think we have films released during ... categories (WWI, WWII, the Thatcher years, whatever overarching event that tickles the subjective fancy). And we ought not. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:18, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nom. I don't see this being needed anywhere other than to point out that they released during a large-scale event, which as mentioned above, isn't used for others. It's more notable for films that were delayed or postponed in some way, especially since it isn't being used to cover video on demand or home video releases. Trailblazer101 (talk) 20:25, 31 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per all the above. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:33, 1 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete totally agree with the decision. ApprenticeFan work 12:30, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete; even if the pandemic goes beyond 2020, it's not worth the category any more than "films released during World War II". -BRAINULATOR9 (TALK) 20:50, 7 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. I can sort of see a case for Tenet being defined by this, given its marketing strategy — but I don't see as readily how it defines the other two films, or the films that haven't been included here, or the films that are getting released through the online versions of film festivals. There's no rule that we have to do something just because IMDb did it — in fact, in many cases (like backward filmographies), what IMDb does is a pretty damn good guide to exactly what Wikipedia shouldn't do. The category system is not just a tool for creating lists of just any random characteristic shared by two or more topics — we categorize articles by their defining characteristics, not just on every individual bit of production or release trivia that it's possible to mention. Bearcat (talk) 19:50, 8 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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