Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 1

August 1

Category:Negative concepts

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 22:43, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Negative concepts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: This category contains some coherent clumps of related topics, such as negative number-related topics, but has largely become a WP:SHAREDNAME of various things called "negative X" — for example, Negative space is an artistic technique. About one-third of the contents are redirects that specifically contain the word (e.g. Negative proton → Antiproton). –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 22:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, the category is populated with an entirely unrelated set of articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep same reasons as dark concepts right below it. I'm somewhat fascinated by negative concepts so that made me to create category and added pages to it. Planet Star 03:05, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Dark concepts

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The result of the discussion was: delete Category:Dark concepts, no consensus for Category:Dark concepts in astrophysics. bibliomaniac 1 5 22:44, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Dark concepts (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Propose deleting Category:Dark concepts in astrophysics (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: Apparent WP:SHAREDNAME — this category includes everything from Dark chocolate to Category:Dark web. Its subcategory is a bit more coherent, but it may fail SHAREDNAME as well. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 22:39, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Definite delete of the parent cat... I'm not versed enough in astrophysics to comment on the second. Grutness...wha? 03:09, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Category:Dark concepts, the category is populated with an entirely unrelated set of articles. Like Grutness I am not sure about the second category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Keep them both For those interested in "dark" topics, they can quickly jump around via category. I'm the one that created those categories and spent time adding category to numerous pages that start with "dark". Planet Star 02:59, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

We do not categorize titles, we categorize content, see WP:SHAREDNAME. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:49, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Category:Dark concepts parent cat seems pretty random. Not sure about the second category though. Eridian314 (talk) 15:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:UE Llagostera

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. The footballers category will be renamed to players, since it is not a multi-sport club. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:11, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:UE Llagostera to Category:UE Costa Brava
Propose renaming Category:UE Llagostera footballers to Category:UE Costa Brava footballers
Propose renaming Category:UE Llagostera managers to Category:UE Costa Brava managers

Nominator's rationale: Club changed name. BRDude⁷⁰ (talk) 21:16, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 10:51, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom and this, although would prefer the 'footballers' category to be moved to Category:UE Costa Brava players. 'Footballers' should only be used for multi-sport clubs, which this is not. Giant Snowman 10:54, 3 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Newspapers reestablished in 1945

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 16:59, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Newspapers reestablished in 1945 to Category:Newspapers established in 1945

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Editor's rationale: Separation of the categories about the establishment years of newspapers from those of publications has not been completed. So, these categories would have more entities soon. Similar categories have been used for magazines, so these categories are also appropriate for newspapers to report the reality in much clearer way, thanks, --Egeymi (talk) 18:47, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support - there are more of these than one might think, given the absence of Category:Reestablishments (as opposed to the presence of Category:Establishments and Category:Disestablishments). Perhaps there should also be Category:Redisestablishments. My own view is that all the reestablishments should be upmerged to establishments: Waren Sardne is simply in 2 disestablishment years and can readily sit in 2 establishment categories, having been established twice. Oculi (talk) 20:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose We do this for musical groups. We should not mix being relaunched with being initially established.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:19, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support We don't have a wide categorization scheme for re-established entities. Even if we had, I doubt that we could populate it properly. Several articles are still missing any category involving their years of establishment, since few editors seem to be working on them. Dimadick (talk) 00:12, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Newspapers reestablished in 1922

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 17:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose merging Category:Newspapers reestablished in 1922 to Category:Newspapers established in 1922

Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:36, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support, regardless of the number of entries. Oculi (talk) 23:05, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support I think this a poorly-thought categorization scheme. Dimadick (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Disney+ series ID not in Wikidata

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 9#Category:Disney+ series ID not in Wikidata

Category:Disney+ series ID different from Wikidata

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 August 9#Category:Disney+ series ID different from Wikidata

Category:Animated western (genre) films

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The result of the discussion was: rename all. bibliomaniac 1 5 05:13, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Animated western (genre) films to Category:Western (genre) animated films
Propose renaming Category:Cavalry Western films to Category:Western (genre) cavalry films
Propose renaming Category:Romantic Western (genre) films to Category:Western (genre) romantic films

Nominator's rationale: Consistency of naming within Category:Western (genre) films by genre. No Great Shaker (talk) 13:54, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Rename To make it cleaer that this is Western (genre) films.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:20, 4 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This is really a needed rename, since Western animation is sometimes used as a term in contrast to anime, which is not at all what we are talking about here. In theory, if we had an anime film that fell under the Western (genre) it would belong here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:32, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–) players

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21) players. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–) players to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21) players

Nominator's rationale: Category:Erie BayHawks (2008–2017) players Category:Erie BayHawks (2017–19) players 寒吉 (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, I am assuming that the rationale is that Erie BayHawks ceased to exist in 2021, of would be helpful if nominator would elaborate on that. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Marcocapelle:See Birmingham Squadron.--寒吉 (talk) 07:04, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Question, shouldn't it become Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–2021) players instead? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Marcocapelle:Sure, Category:Erie BayHawks (2017–19) players also need to be moved.--寒吉 (talk) 07:07, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–) coaches

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21) coaches. bibliomaniac 1 5 17:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–) coaches to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21) coaches

Nominator's rationale: Category:Erie BayHawks (2008–2017) coaches Category:Erie BayHawks (2017–19) coaches 寒吉 (talk) 11:53, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and question same as in the above nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–)

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21). bibliomaniac 1 5 17:42, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose renaming Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–) to Category:Erie BayHawks (2019–21)

Nominator's rationale: Category:Erie BayHawks (2008–2017) Category:Erie BayHawks (2017–19) 寒吉 (talk) 11:51, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment and question same as in the above nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 9 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2017 in the Republic of Macedonia

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 September 6#Category:2017 in the Republic of Macedonia

Competitions by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge and delete as nominated. ✗plicit 11:36, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Competitions by city
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Aberdeen to Category:Events in Aberdeen
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Aveiro, Portugal to Category:Events in Aveiro, Portugal
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Berlin to Category:Events in Berlin
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Birmingham, West Midlands to Category:Events in Birmingham, West Midlands
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Bucharest to Category:Events in Bucharest
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Cardiff to Category:Events in Cardiff
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Copenhagen to Category:Events in Copenhagen
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Lagos to Category:Events in Lagos
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Liverpool to Category:Events in Liverpool
Propose merging Category:Competitions in London to Category:Events in London
Propose merging Category:Competitions in Manchester to Category:Events in Manchester

Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category tree, most of the nominated categories just have one (sport competitions) subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:34, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support all these. Category:Sports competitions by city is fine without this parent. Only 2 seem to have anything which is not a sport competition - and is Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show‎ a sport? Rathfelder (talk) 19:40, 14 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Nintendo hard games

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The result of the discussion was: delete. bibliomaniac 1 5 22:46, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:Nintendo hard games (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Nominator's rationale: WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, WP:NONDEFINING. A critic may use the Nintendo hard term to describe a game they find hard, but that doesn't make it an indisputable, encyclopedic fact. Most of the pages in this category do not even mention the games being "Nintendo hard". See the similar "Shovelware video games" discussion from January. Nohomersryan (talk) 02:31, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. I considered raising this issue at TV Tropes about the Nintendo Hard entry... –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:58, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The term itself covers games that were nearly impossible to complete for the average player. Such criticisms should be covered in an article's main text, but are not particularly useful for categorization purposes. It is an audience reaction, not an intended aspect of the game. We could create lists for unreadable books and unwatchable films using the same logic. There are parts of the audience that either can not comprehend them or dislikes aspects of them, but that does not mean that a work is universally loathed. Dimadick (talk) 00:32, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikipedians by defunct WikiProject

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The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗plicit 06:41, 6 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Space Colonization members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject OWS members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Intel members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Indiana Jones members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject United States Public Policy members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Sri Lanka Reconciliation members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Alternate Reality Gaming members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Dravidian civilizations members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject KYOVA Region members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Abu Dhabi members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Gerald Ford members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Psychoactive and Recreational Drugs members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Measurement members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Administrator members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Persondata members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Introductions members
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Neutrality participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Ohio Wesleyan University participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Redwall participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Orthodox Judaism participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Probability participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Artemis Fowl participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Mathematics Competitions participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Hanseatic League participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Hello! Project participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Category sorting participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject NPOV participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Flagged Revisions participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject East Asia participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Minnesota Twins participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject American music participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Inheritance Cycle participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject FBI participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Information Architecture participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Malware participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Alternative music/Nirvana participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Transwiki participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Republika Srpska participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Optare participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject New page participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject Deletion participants
Propose deleting Category:WikiProject First aid contributors

Nominator's rationale: Per numerous past discussions, Wikipedians are not categorized by their participation in now-defunct projects. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:48, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Categories have all been tagged * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 00:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, if these wikiprojects are defunct, the membership categories no longer serve a purpose. (Note that I have not checked whether the above projects are defunct.) Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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