Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 January 24

January 24

Category:Male villains

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2021 February 26#Category:Male villains

Category:Scalar quantities

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Scalar physical quantities and Category:Vector physical quantities. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:39, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Moving articles from Category:Physical quantities to these new categories loses the information that we are categorizing physical quantities. I propose either deleting the new categories and moving articles back to Category:Physical quantities, or perhaps renaming the new categories to Category:Scalar physical quantities and Category:Vector physical quantities, if it's felt that there is actually a need to split up the parent category.
Physical quantities are a specific thing. Not all scalar or vector quantities are physical quantities. If these categories are kept and the current names are retained, they should be moved out of Category:Physical quantities and the latter category should be restored to the articles from which it has been removed. — Srleffler (talk) 16:46, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rename (speedy, because WP:C2E) to Category:Scalar physical quantities and Category:Vector physical quantities. These cats are already children of Category:Physical quantities, so no information was lost. Undoing this significant intersection would also require upmerging into, e.g., Category:Vectors (mathematics and physics). Finally, the List of physical quantities highlights scalar/vector as a fundamental property of such quantities. fgnievinski (talk) 02:23, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Rename like Fgnievinski proposed. --Just N. (talk) 21:46, 29 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Dictionary of chemical formulas

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename according to contents. – Fayenatic London 14:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Political prisoners in Spain

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:37, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: None of the people in this category is a political prisoner. They are imprisoned after being convicted of sedition, embezzlement of public funds and/or disobedience of courts and not because of their political opinions. StellarHalo (talk) 12:10, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Container categories in Safavid Iran

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:36, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: upmerge, redundant container categories with only one or two subcategories each. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:34, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:White supremacist organized crime groups in the United States

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: "White supremacist" is a compound adjective here, and it runs in my mind that we should be using a hyphen to make that clear. These crime groups are organized and embrace white supremacism, as we all know when we think about the phrase, but with a phrase five words long, it can be easy to mis-parse it initially as white groups that do something. Nyttend (talk) 11:32, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Education in smaller cities and towns in Sri Lanka

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The result of the discussion was: delete. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:33, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Ambalangoda
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Bandarawela
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Chavakachcheri
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Dehiwala-Mount Lavinia
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Elpitiya
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Galle
more categories nominated
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Gampaha
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Hambantota
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Horana
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Kalutara
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Kandy
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Kilinochchi
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Kuliyapitiya
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Kurunegala
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Manipay
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Mannar, Sri Lanka
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Matale
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Matugama
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Mirigama
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Mullaitivu
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Negombo
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Panadura
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Peradeniya
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Point Pedro
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Ratnapura
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Tangalle
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Tellippalai
  • Propose deleting Category:Education in Udupiddy
Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only a single subcategory for schools. There is no need to merge, the schools subcategories are already in the buildings and structures category of the city and in the schools subcategory of the district. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:06, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Destroyed landmarks

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:29, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Propose merging:
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:OVERLAPCAT, nearly all of the articles are about buildings and structures. The ten articles that are an exception (i.e. not about buildings and structures) should be purged, they are already in Category:Destroyed landforms or in Category:Destroyed individual trees. This is follow-up on this discussion, this discussion and this discussion; @SportingFlyer, William Allen Simpson, Doncram, RevelationDirect, Place Clichy, and Nigej: pinging contributors to these discussions. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:15, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Participants of the 2021 Capitol storming

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The result of the discussion was: delete. This may become more amenable to categorization when the dust settles a bit more and we start to get criminal convictions. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:57, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Potential libel issues. Previously deleted in this CfD. AllegedlyHuman (talk) 04:18, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'd also like to make clear that I vote to keep this category. Some articles of the participants were clearly created in relation to the notability of this broader event, and they were kept as such. Love of Corey (talk) 06:40, 3 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep/Rename At some point, this won't be WP:TOOSOON. This has generally been added to the ledes of existing articles and, based on date of creation, a number of articles were created because of this event: Jake Angeli, Baked Alaska (activist), Derrick Evans (politician), Rick Saccone. I can't predict what someone will accomplish in the future, but it's hard to see those new articles ever not being defined by this event. By all means change the name to match the main article but, since most of these people admit they were there but claim their intents were peaceful, I don't know if if this is such a libel/BLP issue prior to any possible future criminal conviction. - RevelationDirect (talk) 10:52, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The claim is that the content in the article space has shifted since then and many participants are now admitting to being present, while denying more serious crimes. Those may not be persuasive arguments, but no is claiming the wording change makes the difference. RevelationDirect (talk) - 18:27, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
That claim is not persuasive. Presence at the riot itself would not be a crime. Presence in a restricted area (that includes the steps and the works being built for the inauguration) is a crime. The article currently has 3 concurrent RFCs for Requested Move. This is a mess, and there's no good reason to bring that mess into the categories.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 18:49, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
One thing we agree is not reviving this every week in CFD! Now that we have more content, if the consensus is still to wait for criminal convictions so be it. - RevelationDirect (talk) 19:42, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Also, my guess is that many of those stubs are likely to be deleted at AfD WP:1E. As we already have Category:Prisoners and detainees of the United States federal government, there's simply no need for a temporary, constantly changing, more specific name.
William Allen Simpson (talk) 19:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:PSA Group people

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The result of the discussion was: do nothing: discussion was corrupted. Articles were moved during the discussion, so a complete reassessment of the appropriateness of this category and related ones is needed. Good Ol’factory (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To reflect the merger of PSA and FCA to form Stellantis. Ridwan97 (talk) 01:12, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, nominator has moved Carlos Tavares to Category:Stellantis just now. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:United Daughters of the Confederacy awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:27, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:NONDEFINING (WP:SMALLCAT)
I have no conceptual objection to this category grouping awards by an organization but the only article is the Southern Cross of Honor. The United Daughters of the Confederacy article does not mention any other awards so I don't think there is any room for growth. No objection to recreating this later if I'm wrong and it ever gets up to 5+ articles though. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Alumni awards

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The result of the discussion was: rename. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per WP:CATNAME and a loose reading of WP:C2C
Just about every established university has a scholarship or other awards from alumni. In contrast, this category is for awards given to alumni. This rename is just meant to clarify the inclusion criteria by following the format of some of the other subcategories of Category:Awards by type of recipient. - RevelationDirect (talk) 00:02, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I double checked the contents and removed one that was for a "graduate", meaning a graduating senior not a an alumna. I left the Yorke prize but agree it's an edge case. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:47, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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