Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 6
August 6
Republic of Upper Volta
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- The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Republic of Upper Volta to Category:History of Burkina Faso
- Propose merging Category:20th century in Upper Volta to Category:20th century in Burkina Faso
- Propose merging Category:20th-century disestablishments in Upper Volta to Category:20th-century disestablishments in Burkina Faso
- Propose merging Category:20th-century establishments in Upper Volta to Category:20th-century establishments in Burkina Faso
- Propose merging Category:Decades in Upper Volta to Category:Decades in Burkina Faso
- Propose merging Category:disestablishments in Upper Volta by decade to Category:disestablishments in Burkina Faso by decade
- Propose merging Category:establishments in Upper Volta by decade to Category:establishments in Burkina Faso by decade
- Propose deleting Category:disestablishments in Upper Volta
- Propose deleting Category:establishments in Upper Volta
- Propose deleting Category:history of the Republic of Upper Volta by period
- Propose deleting Category:Centuries in the Republic of Upper Volta
- Propose deleting Category:Decades in the Republic of Upper Volta
- Nominator's rationale: In 1984, Upper Volta was renamed to Burkina Faso. We do not need separate parent categories any more for the period that the colonial name remained in use. Redirect all merged categories, as the templates on the sub-cats will now resolve the redirects, i.e. will automatically change to using the target categories as parents. – Fayenatic London 21:46, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- This is all about the same country. I note Category:1940s in French Upper Volta is (correctly) in the target. I thought we had long ago resolved upon what is now proposed, and suspect that we have an officious editor changing things contrary to what was agreed long ago. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:34, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- I think rather that these categories are still here from the time when the templates were more rigid and expected all these parents to exist.– Fayenatic London 06:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Indian television navigational boxes
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy merge. – Fayenatic London 21:28, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge to the older, country name category. Note, that using country name is the convention utilized in subcategories of Category:Templates by topic and country. —andrybak (talk) 19:58, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy merge per C2C, duplicate category that contravenes category tree naming conventions. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:30, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Republic of Dahomey
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:12, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Republic of Dahomey to Category:Benin
- Propose merging Category:Establishments in the Republic of Dahomey by year to Category:Establishments in Benin by year
- Nominator's rationale: Merge and redirect both. "Republic of Dahomey" was the name from 1958 to 1975, when it was renamed Benin. It became independent of France in 1960, so that was more of a key transitional date, but the name changed from French Dahomey to Republic of Dahomey in 1958. Anyway, the change of name from Republic of Dahomey to Benin is much less significant, and other cases do not normally get separate categories for the period that each name was in use. – Fayenatic London 21:37, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- The convention is to use the present name for renamed states, but subcats should reflect the contemporary name for their period. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:1889 establishments in Dahomey
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:13, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1889 establishments in Dahomey to Category:1889 establishments in Africa and Category:19th-century establishments in Dahomey and Category:1889 in Dahomey
- Nominator's rationale: merge, it is the only establishment by year category for the kingdom of Dahomey. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:06, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support; I would be willing to merge it to Category:1889 in Dahomey as well, as the year category has several siblings in the following decade. – Fayenatic London 19:15, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I have added it to the nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:37, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support but I am not sure Category:19th-century establishments in Dahomey is a useful category. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:41, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- There is also Category:17th-century establishments in Dahomey, although that in effect only contains Dahomey itself, so it's even less justifiable. Anyway, those have not been nominated here. – Fayenatic London 22:03, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Dahomey
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Kingdom of Dahomey. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:15, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Dahomey to Category:Dahomey (kingdom)
- Nominator's rationale: rename, Dahomey refers to the kingdom of Dahomey, but as a category name it is ambiguous, as one might suspect it includes French Dahomey and the Republic of Dahomey too. If this goes ahead the subcategories can presumably be speedied. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Comments: this hierarchy does need some attention. Category:Years of the 20th century in Benin covers French Dahomey and Republic of Dahomey; I agree with including Republic of Dahomey in with Benin, but perhaps French Dahomey should have a separate intermediate hierarchy. Category:Decades in Dahomey is not consistently split from Category:Decades in Benin. A hierarchy for the kingdom should probably use the name "Kingdom of Dahomey" rather than the qualifier "(kingdom)". There seems to be no dated content for the period when the Kingdom continued as a French protectorate period (1894–1904) so no need to discuss whether to have two layers for that date range. – Fayenatic London 19:10, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- I am also fine with Category:Kingdom of Dahomey. Meanwhile I created Category:French Dahomey. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:00, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Prefer Category:Kingdom of Dahomey, but the article also needs to be renamed. This appears to be a smaller area than French Dahomey, but I am not sure that we need to have a separate tree for it. Peterkingiron (talk) 19:39, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
- There was no consensus for renaming the article in 2013; see Talk:Dahomey#Requested move. But categories can be disambiguated even when the main article is considered WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. – Fayenatic London 22:05, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Package films
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:17, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Package films to Category:Animated anthology films
- Nominator's rationale: Category whose name is not an accurate reflection of its contents. "Package film" is just an alternate term for any anthology films, and does not automatically require the films to be specifically animated as opposed to live-action -- but this category's usage note specifically states that it was conceived as a category specifically for animated anthologies even though its name fails to convey that. (And, for added bonus, a review of the contents found a number of things had been included here that weren't actually "package films" at all, but animated television series or individual shorts that might have been included in anthology packages but were not themselves anthology packages.)
Accordingly, the contents here should be moved to Category:Animated anthology films -- but the title should be redirected to the general Category:Anthology films parent rather than the animated subcategory, because the term "package film" does not automatically connote animated anthologies to the exclusion of non-animated anthologies. Bearcat (talk) 15:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom, incorrect and duplicative category. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:33, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:People in history occupations
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 14#Category:People in history occupations
Category:WikiProject lists of online reliable sources
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:WikiProject lists of online reliable sources to Category:WikiProject lists of reliable sources
- Nominator's rationale: A technical rename, really. Some of the lists here contain sources that are not online (or were digitized at some point). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. QuietHere (talk) 10:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Years in British Honduras
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- The result of the discussion was: withdraen. – Fayenatic London 06:27, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
Propose merging Category:Years in British Honduras to Category:History of British Honduras
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory.Marcocapelle (talk) 09:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)- Support per nomination. QuietHere (talk) 10:33, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose, Category:Years of the 19th century in British Honduras was incompletely parented but is now in this one. – Fayenatic London 19:31, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Withdraw nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:56, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:School Boy Records singles
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:19, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:School Boy Records singles to Category:Schoolboy Records singles
- Nominator's rationale: As far as I can tell, the official name of the record label is "Schoolboy" despite inconsistencies here on WP and elsewhere. Both label founder Scooter Braun's website and Republic Records' have it that way so I'm at least pretty sure that's right. Target category was made by mistake from an assumption that no such category existed; turns out it does, just under a different spelling. The article it was made for, Western Wind (Carly Rae Jepsen song), has one source covering its label which also uses the no-spaces spelling. Needs a merger either way as both categories are covering the same subject and are redundant, just want it clear which I believe is the correct name. QuietHere (talk) 08:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Speedy merge per WP:C2D, to match main article Schoolboy Records. I am also nominating two of the associated categories for C2D as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:50, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- I was notified of this discussion and I don’t remember creating the category. At any rate, I support a speedy merge per nom. Erpert blah, blah, blah... 15:11, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Belarusian nobility
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 August 14#Category:Belarusian nobility
Category:Albums produced by Richard Stannard
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Albums produced by Richard Stannard (songwriter). (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Albums produced by Richard Stannard to Category:Albums produced by Richard "Biff" Stannard
- Nominator's rationale: As there is more than one target called Richard Stannard, a DAB or distinguishing factor is required. >> Lil-unique1 (talk) — 21:19, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Oppose, made up title, see my comments above. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:25, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
- Comment, leaning oppose: Based on what I've read on liner notes, Stannard's real name is usually used for writing while his "Biff" nickname is often included when he's credited as a producer, although I have encountered several exceptions. All in all, I don't think this distinction matters as long as it's consistent across categories. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 12:24, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Albums produced by Richard Stannard (songwriter) per the 2 categories above, and per Richard Stannard (songwriter). Oculi (talk) 07:56, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Relisting comment, there is no consensus regarding the original nomination. Is there any opposition to Oculi's alternative? If not the category can be speedily renamed. Note that this alternative would have been listed at WP:CFDS if the category was not already on full CfD. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support Oculi's suggestion, which will harmonise this title with Category:Songs written by Richard Stannard (songwriter) and Category:Song recordings produced by Richard Stannard (songwriter). No harm in ensuring that the text makes it clear that Richard and Biff are the same person, nor reviewing if an article is forthcoming. --Richhoncho (talk) 07:45, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Films featuring an item number
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:24, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Numerous films have this. Item numbers are endemic in India. Do we really need a category though? Kailash29792 (talk) 09:35, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Support: feature is common enough in Indian film to not be particularly notable as a distinguishing feature. QuietHere (talk) 10:40, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:European Film Awards
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:European Film Awards to Category:European Film Academy Awards
- Nominator's rationale: Ambiguity issue, as the capitalization or non-capitalization of "film" and "awards" is the only distinction between this eponym for a specific film award and the general topic category Category:European film awards for all film awards presented in Europe. So, since these awards are presented by the European Film Academy, and "European Film Academy Awards" is stated in the article's introduction as a valid and legitimate alternate name for these awards, it's best to name the category that way to minimize any possible confusion between the two. Bearcat (talk) 14:37, 29 July 2022 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Support per nomination. QuietHere (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Austria-Hungary
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 06:25, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Austria-Hungary to Category:Defunct manufacturing companies of Austria-Hungary and Category:Motor vehicle manufacturers of Austria-Hungary; and dispersing to Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Austria and Category:Defunct motor vehicle manufacturers of Hungary
- Nominator's rationale: merge, only two articles, and we do not have a tree of defunct motor vehicle manufacturers by former country. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nomination. QuietHere (talk) 10:41, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
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