Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 8
January 8
Category:Jamaica Racetrack
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:21, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Jamaica Racetrack to Category:Jamaica Race Course
Nominator's rationale: Same category, different name. HugoHelp (talk) 23:02, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- The main article is Jamaica Race Course with a redirect from the other name. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:35, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. -- Clear case --Just N. (talk) 14:20, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Wikipedians on Twitter
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 09:46, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
Nominator's rationale: Recreation of category deleted per Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2010 May 12#Category:Wikipedians who use Twitter * Pppery * it has begun... 20:57, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Delete, this does not help user collaboration on Wikipedia. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Naturalised tennis players of Italy
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 February 23#Category:Naturalised tennis players of Italy
Category:Film remakes by country
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. – Fayenatic London 10:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Film remakes by country to Category:Film remakes by country of original film
Nominator's rationale: Apropos of below, this parent category is also unclear in a similar way. Nardog (talk) 19:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment perhaps this should be split into a second category set for films of X that are remakes (ie.Category:American films that are remakes of foreign films and Category:American films that are remakes of domestic films etc per nation --- that be a member of Category:Films by country that are remakes of foreign films; and Category:Films by country that are remakes of domestic films ) -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 14:23, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Film remakes by country
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. @Nardog: please get ready to re-home e.g. Category:Indian remakes of foreign films and its subcats e.g. Category:Indian remakes of American films. – Fayenatic London 10:13, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming
- Category:American film remakes to Category:Remakes of American films
- Category:Argentine film remakes to Category:Remakes of Argentine films
- Category:Australian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Australian films
- Category:Austrian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Austrian films
- Category:Bangladeshi film remakes to Category:Remakes of Bangladeshi films
- Category:Brazilian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Brazilian films
- Category:British film remakes to Category:Remakes of British films
- Category:Burmese film remakes to Category:Remakes of Burmese films
- Category:Canadian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Canadian films
- Category:Chinese film remakes to Category:Remakes of Chinese films
- Category:Danish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Danish films
- Category:Dutch film remakes to Category:Remakes of Dutch films
- Category:Finnish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Finnish films
- Category:French film remakes to Category:Remakes of French films
- Category:German film remakes to Category:Remakes of German films
- Category:Hong Kong film remakes to Category:Remakes of Hong Kong films
- Category:Hungarian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Hungarian films
- Category:Indian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Indian films
- Category:Indonesian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Indonesian films
- Category:Iranian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Iranian films
- Category:Irish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Irish films
- Category:Italian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Italian films
- Category:Japanese film remakes to Category:Remakes of Japanese films
- Category:Malaysian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Malaysian films
- Category:Maldivian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Maldivian films
- Category:Mexican film remakes to Category:Remakes of Mexican films
- Category:Nepalese film remakes to Category:Remakes of Nepalese films
- Category:Norwegian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Norwegian films
- Category:Pakistani film remakes to Category:Remakes of Pakistani films
- Category:Philippine film remakes to Category:Remakes of Philippine films
- Category:Russian film remakes to Category:Remakes of Russian films
- Category:South Korean film remakes to Category:Remakes of South Korean films
- Category:Spanish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Spanish films
- Category:Sri Lankan film remakes to Category:Remakes of Sri Lankan films
- Category:Swedish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Swedish films
- Category:Thai film remakes to Category:Remakes of Thai films
- Category:Turkish film remakes to Category:Remakes of Turkish films
Nominator's rationale: Category:American film remakes
includes remake films based on American films. The remake need not necessarily be an American film, but one first parses "American film remakes" as American films that are remakes, not remakes of American films.
Understandably, members of some of these categories seem to be mixed so we might need to clean them up (perhaps that's a WP:SQLREQ). We might want to also recreate the current names as categories based on the remakes' countries of origin. Nardog (talk) 18:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. A an American film that is a rename of a Turkish film would be in Category:Remakes of Turkish films and the relevant American year film category. The current titles are very unclear about their scope and we don't need to recreate them based on the country of origin as the current system is enough. Gonnym (talk) 11:05, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Betty Logan (talk) 11:25, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom and the above comments. Makes sense. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 08:56, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment perhaps this should be split into a second category set for films of X that are remakes (ie. Category:American films that are remakes of domestic films and subcategory Category:American films that are remakes of foreign films etc per nation) -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 14:19, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- The use of the words "foreign" and "domestic" are discouraged by MOS:FILM. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- So Category:German films that are remakes of German films and Category:German films that are remakes of non-German films (etc) ? -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- There already are Category:Bengali remakes of Telugu films etc., so I suggest you make "German remakes of German films" etc. provided there are enough articles that warrant a category. "German remakes of non-German films" etc. strike me as overcategorization and not particularly useful. Nardog (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- So Category:German films that are remakes of German films and Category:German films that are remakes of non-German films (etc) ? -- 65.92.246.142 (talk) 17:24, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- The use of the words "foreign" and "domestic" are discouraged by MOS:FILM. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Some Dude From North Carolina (talk) 14:54, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support The current naming of this broad set of categories is ambiguous enough to cause problems and haphazardness.--Asqueladd (talk) 17:00, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. BTW Thanks to Nardog for having a good eye! --Just N. (talk) 14:27, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. The current names indeed give the wrong implication about the intended scope of the categories. Bearcat (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support. This should have been done long ago. I strongly disagree with User talk:65.92.246.142's proposal, though. --Nicholas0 (talk) 11:41, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support The current naming is confusing and this would clarify the scope of the categories. Hanif Al Husaini (talk) 03:19, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 10:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Mystics from Norwich
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Mystics from Norwich to Category:People from Norwich and Category:14th-century Christian mystics
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 in 500 years Rathfelder (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support Happy for the merge, although I'm not sure Julian would be too pleased to be removed from her secluded place and put in with a lot of other people....Amitchell125 (talk) 14:13, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- I wondered whether there should also be a category by date and location, such as Category:14th-century English women. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- She is already in Category:14th-century English women writers Rathfelder (talk) 17:16, 14 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:Organizations listed as a Russian foreign agent
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- The result of the discussion was: rename both as proposed. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 07:15, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Organizations listed as a Russian foreign agent to Category:Organizations listed in Russia as foreign agents
- Propose renaming Category:Media listed as a Russian foreign agent to Category:Media listed in Russia as foreign agents
Nominator's rationale: rename, the proposed name is less ambiguous, the current name might wrongly suggest they are foreign agents in other countries to the benefit of Russia. This is follow-up on this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:00, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support -- I think that was my suggestion. Peterkingiron (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Better solution indeed! --Just N. (talk) 14:32, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:1900s LGBT-related mass media
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- The result of the discussion was: merge Category:1900s LGBT-related mass media and delete Category:1900s LGBT-related films. – Fayenatic London 15:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:1900s LGBT-related mass media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: Likewise there was no "LGBT-related mass media" in the 1900s. The first LGBT periodical intended for a mass audience was Die Freundschaft in 1919. (t · c) buidhe 08:53, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- What used to be in subCategory:1900s LGBT-related films which is now empty? Marcocapelle (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle The Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and Moon and List of LGBT-related films pre-1920. This was removed by me because the article does not state that the film has LGBT-related content, only that some critics perceive it that way. (t · c) buidhe 12:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- That is reasonable. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:15, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Marcocapelle The Eclipse, or the Courtship of the Sun and Moon and List of LGBT-related films pre-1920. This was removed by me because the article does not state that the film has LGBT-related content, only that some critics perceive it that way. (t · c) buidhe 12:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Comment Category has been emptied. Liz Read! Talk! 01:09, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- No, it did not have any entries to begin with. (t · c) buidhe 12:45, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support in principle but merge to Category:1900s in LGBT history. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:14, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support and merge to Category:1900s in LGBT history per Marcocapelle. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support and merge to Category:1900s in LGBT history per Marcocapelle. --Just N. (talk) 14:34, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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Category:1890s LGBT-related mass media
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. – Fayenatic London 15:53, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:1890s LGBT-related mass media (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Nominator's rationale: There was no "LGBT-related mass media" published in the 1890s, with the possible exception of that already categorized in the literature category. Neither Der Eigene, which only sold through subscription, nor the Jahrbuch für sexuelle Zwischenstufen, intended for a limited scientific audience, were "mass media". (t · c) buidhe 08:50, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Both beforementioned articles are in Category:1890s in LGBT history, that should suffice. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
- Support per nom. --Just N. (talk) 14:34, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
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