Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 1

October 1

Category:Metropolis of Muntenia and Dobrudja

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The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per parent article Metropolis of Muntenia and Dobruja. Super Ψ Dro 14:36, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:21st century in Santiago, Cape Verde

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:47, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:History of Santo Antão, Cape Verde

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:08, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge per WP:SMALLCAT, currently only one article in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 13:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Marcocapelle: Something wrong here, both categories are the same. Did you mean the history category? CMD (talk) 14:17, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct, thanks for notifying. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:19, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ethiopian Catholic churches

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Ethiopian Catholic Church, Category:Church buildings of the Catholic Church in Ethiopia and Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Africa. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:23, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Ethiopian Catholic churches to Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Ethiopia
Nominator's rationale: To avoid confusion between the Eastern Catholic and Roman Catholic church buildings. See below. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:48, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Ethiopian Catholic cathedrals

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 9#Category:Ethiopian Catholic cathedrals

Category:Eritrean Catholic church buildings

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Eritrean Catholic Church, Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings, Category:Churches in Eritrea and Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Africa. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:28, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Eritrean Catholic church buildings to Category:Eastern Catholic church buildings in Eritrea
Nominator's rationale: Per standard of other countries. There is a difference between "Eritrean Catholics who are Eastern Catholics" and "Roman Catholics who are Eritrean nationals". Note: I originally created this category. Laurel Lodged (talk) 08:09, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Eritrean Catholic cathedrals

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 9#Category:Eritrean Catholic cathedrals

Category:People from Tver Oblast

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:29, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: only 1 or 2 articles in each. Rathfelder (talk) 08:59, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People from Orenburg Oblast

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:30, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only 1 or 2 articles in each Rathfelder (talk) 09:14, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Saba culture

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 9#Category:Saba culture

Category:Dams in Hokkaido

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think Hokkaido and Hokkaido Prefecture are one and the same, so perhaps these categories should be merged? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:45, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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@Qwerfjkl: can you just close this? I think we have a consensus, thanks — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:51, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@MSGJ, sure. — Qwerfjkltalk 17:43, 4 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People of United Empire Loyalist descent

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 11:10, 15 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I can't imagine how this would be defining. ★Trekker (talk) 13:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, not defining indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep but limit scope. The United Empire Loyalists were people who were expelled from United States, because they remained loyal to the British Crown and were allowed to settle in Upper Canada. As the primary settlers in the area, I would expect that the status was very significant, particularly before the amalgamation to create Canada in 1867. I suspect that today, nearly 250 years later, it is not significant. Accordingly, the category should mainly be applied to those active before 1900 (or some other date). Perhaps the third or fourth generation would be sufficient. Beyond that people have so many ancestors, often with different ethnicities, that the category is no longer useful. Peterkingiron (talk) 12:33, 16 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Death care industry

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 10#Category:Death care industry

Category:Kingdom of England emigrants

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 October 12#Category:Kingdom of England emigrants

Category:Foo by country by century

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:34, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Per standard of Category:Categories by country and century. Laurel Lodged (talk) 07:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • I agree with BHG that "…by…by" is more intuitively understood; I remember that it took me a long time to remember which way round "…by…and" works. However, it is true that "…by…and" is more widely established as a pattern on Wikipedia. In this nomination, I would not object to Politics and Novels being renamed to match the majority pattern, but keep the Television category unless it is nominated with all of its hierarchy, because it is part of an extensive set using "…by…by" as follows. Only Category:Television by country and year slipped through as a Speedy in 2020; I am therefore proposing that this be returned to its original name. – Fayenatic London 12:22, 27 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Option B

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Category:Human activities with impact on the environment

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:39, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a procedural nomination. The "human activities" category was created in 2009 as "Category:Environmental issues with population", and moved to its current name after Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 November 10#Human activities with impact on the environment. At that CFD, merger was suggested at a late stage and did not gain consensus. Yesterday at the Speedy page, Geysirhead suggested merger on the grounds that there is no separate article for the "human activities" category. However, various editors have considered that there is a distinction in the topics, sufficient for there to be two categories not only here but also at Commons and on Chinese wikipedia (and recently by user:Hilal knight on Azerbaijani wikipedia, with less content so far). If merger is approved, then I suggest that the nominated page be moved over the target page, which was created later (by DASonnenfeld in 2013). – Fayenatic London 09:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Scientific works of the medieval Islamic world

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:36, 9 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, quite narrow intersection and only a few articles in these categories. After this merge the container categories become entirely redundant. As a whole, it is an unnecessarily complicated tree. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:18, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. These categories hold only two to four articles each, and the linked categories on Arabic or Spanish Wikipedias have the same or fewer, indicating that there is not much prospect of expansion. – Fayenatic London 10:11, 1 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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