Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 16

October 16

Category:Anguidae stubs

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 24#Category:Anguidae stubs

Category:Alopoglossidae stubs

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Category:History of the Chinese script

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Category:Ankylosaurian stubs

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Category:Open-source software converted to a proprietary license

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Category:Han character input

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Category:Chinese spelling reform

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The result of the discussion was: manual upmerge as per Folly Mox. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 'spelling' is a severe misnomer Remsense聊 19:11, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Writers by Occitan dialect

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Category:Occitan poets

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The result of the discussion was: manual merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:12, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: manually merge. Writers/poets should be categorized by language; if Occitan poets write in a different language (e.g. French) there is no point in categorizing them. This is follow-up on this pending discussion, pinging User:Place Clichy and User:Iketsi contributors to this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:50, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per nom Mason (talk) 19:01, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Yugoslav writers by genre

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:48, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overcategorized; only has one genre in it Mason (talk) 18:40, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chinese scripts

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Category:Romani writers by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge this overcat, as there's only one category in here Mason (talk) 18:38, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Stern family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small cat (n = 2) is a father-son pair Mason (talk) 18:35, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ingersoll family (publishers)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:52, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small cat, only 2 pages; a father-son pair Mason (talk) 18:34, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ewing family (publishing)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1 person in the category Mason (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Greenspun family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 2 pages, one is the founder of the family (Hank Greenspun) and the other is his company (Greenspun Media Group) Mason (talk) 18:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Writing systems derived from the Chinese

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Category:Bestselling Sámi authors

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 16:55, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: non-defining, vague, etc Mason (talk) 18:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Emigrants from pre-Confederation New Brunswick to the United States

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Category:Emigrants from the Dominion of Newfoundland to the United Kingdom

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Category:Albums produced by John Cornfield

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Paintings and sculptures in museums by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: Rename to [Paintings/Sculptures] in the [Bar Museum] by [Fooian] artists (with some exceptions).
  • Propose renaming Category:British paintings of the Museo del Prado to Category:British paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by American and British artists‎ to Category:American and British paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by Dutch, Flemish and German artists‎ to Category:Dutch, Flemish and German paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by Egyptian artists‎ to Category:Egyptian paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by French artists‎ to Category:French paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by Italian artists‎ to Category:Italian paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings in the Louvre by Spanish artists‎ to Category:Spanish paintings in the Louvre
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by Dutch artists‎ to Category:Dutch paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by Flemish artists‎ to Category:Flemish paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by French artists to Category:French paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by German artists‎ to Category:German paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by Polish artists‎ to Category:Polish paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Paintings of the Museo del Prado by Spanish artists to Category:Spanish paintings in the Museo del Prado
  • Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Louvre by Flemish, Dutch and German artists‎ to Category:Dutch, Flemish and German sculptures in the Louvre (nationalities in alphabetical order, as with the equivalent category for paintings)
  • Propose renaming Category:Sculptures of the Louvre by French artists‎ to Category:French sculptures in the Louvre
Nominator's rationale: More consistent with the parent categories Category:Italian paintings, Category:French paintings, etc., and the construction "Foo in the Bar Museum" is preferred to "Foo of the Bar Museum" (for which see this CfD nomination from 5 August). Ham II (talk) 07:40, 24 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • There seems to be rough consensus in favour of "[Paintings/Sculptures] in the [Bar Museum] by [Fooian] artists" and for splitting up the categories with multiple nationalities, so I'm surprised this was relisted. Ham II (talk) 05:41, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British Christian hymnwriters by nationality

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Category:Culture of Karelia

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Category:French-language Occitan writers

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Category:Noble titles by country

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Category:Ethnic Greek people

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Category:Ethnic Albanian rebels

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Category:Latin historians

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: It's vague and doesn't match the latin language naming convention. (I'd also be ok with Historians in Latin, although it is clunky) Mason (talk) 22:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wattpad writers

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection that's non-defining. that feels pretty self-promotey. Do we have WordPresss bloggers? Mason (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I've never heard of Wattpad before, but it seems to have been (be?) a platform not just a software and almost a genre. This is more like "Instagram poets" as a recognizable thing than "WordPress bloggers". Looking at the articles fo these writers, they do seem to have been famous for their writings on Wattpad as Wattpad. Jahaza (talk) 18:58, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Boran

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 22:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete per WP:OCEPON, the category only contains the eponymous article and a subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:36, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This category includes a subcategory about her generals. Because the category doesn't cover exactly the same topic, it isn't eponymous. See this text from WP:OCEPON
Mason (talk) 14:41, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support. This is clearly an eponymous category - it has the same name as the article. @Mason, you seem to misunderstand WP:OCEPON.
Two members is not enough. Qwerfjkltalk 17:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Civil servants from the Ottoman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:35, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, this belongs to Government of the Ottoman Empire, i.e. it is a country category rather than a nationality category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:22, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. But it also belongs to Category:Civil servants by nationality and Category:People from the Ottoman Empire by occupation, which are both nationality categories. Mason (talk) 17:52, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:LGBT gods

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:37, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:LGBT gods to Category:LGBT deities
  • Propose merging Category:LGBT goddesses to Category:LGBT deities
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category (WP:OVERLAPCAT) and maybe WP:OCEGRS; I'm also nominating this one. When I searched looked that the page for Aphrodite, she didn't have anything written about being LGBT. And the more I'm thinking about this I am inclined to propose deleting the entire tree as none of the gods listed have LGBT as a defining characteristic as far as I can tell. Mason (talk) 21:53, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
BTW there's another discussion regarding Category:LGBT deities. AHI-3000 (talk) 23:07, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • What does "LGBT god" even mean? Does it refer to his own sexuality, or is he a god to be worshipped for LGBT issues? The articles in the category barely touch upon the subject. This is probably better for a list, in which a detailed description can be given of any type of LGBT relationship. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all per WP:NONDEF. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:16, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all albeit for a different reason. I think being LGBT could well be a defining characteristic. However, this category seems to be currently haphazardly applied to any god where any story exists with vaguely LGBT theme, or unknown other reasons (some modern group writing stories implying that?). Most mythologies don't have a single authoritative source on a deity's deeds, so things like Zeus having contradictory aspects really just means that people in city X had different stories than people in city Y. This makes it very difficult to figure out which attributes are "core" and which are closer to, say, views of specific denominations of a religion. SnowFire (talk) 14:57, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Bearcat: you should presumably contribute to this discussion too, since you are the main contributor in the discussion about the parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:09, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • I originally closed this discussion, but the more I think about this the more I started to disagree with my own close so I have withdrawn it and am commenting instead. The elephant in the room is that the proposed target for a merge (Category:LGBT deities) is currently at CfD itself. There is support for deletion of all three categories here, but zero support for deleting Category:LGBT deities at its own CfD. I think that the best course of action at this point is to close this as no consensus / keep for now / put on hold, pending the outcome of the aforementioned. That way, we can have a discussion with the knowledge of what the options are for the two categories nominated. HouseBlastertalk 00:11, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Zero support for deleting Category:LGBT deities is incorrect, especially when "delete" and "listify" are taken together. But it does make sense waiting for closure of that one before closing this one. If Category:LGBT deities is not closed as listify/delete then this discussion will probably take another turn too. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:09, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Establishments in the Habsburg Netherlands by year

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, WP:OCYEAR. Upmerge to Holy Roman Empire (and Spanish Empire for later years) level(s) and century-level establishments. All nominated categories have 1-2 articles per year, and the decade level will not be sufficiently populated to keep either. –Aidan721 (talk) 14:23, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Phalia

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Category:Indigenous Mexican schools

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Establishments in the Byzantine Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:51, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging:
Nominator's rationale: WP:SMALLCAT, WP:OCYEAR. Not enough establishments on a decade-level. Upmerge to century-level. Most cases do not require merge to YYYYs establishments due to being in YYYY establishments already. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support: Not currently an aid to navigation. I'm sure these could be viable in some future time and when that happens, of course they could be recreated. Furius (talk) 23:24, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support all of nomination per my comments at a similar nomination: WP:OCYEAR says to"avoid creating a category tree of individual by year categories with very few members", entirely independent of WP:SMALLCAT. They can always be recreated later if they can be sufficiently populated. HouseBlastertalk 17:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Establishments in Germany (Holy Roman Empire period)

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Category:14th-century BC mayors

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:54, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category using anachronistic terminology. "Mayors" are not a thing that existed in the 14th century BC, so these people shouldn't be categorized as something they weren't -- but I don't know what the best alternative would be. Bearcat (talk) 05:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Mayor" seems to be the standard term in Egyptological literature (e.g. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5]). Do you have any source for this being any more anachronistic than "king", "priest", or any other English term applied to people who existed before English existed? Furius (talk) 23:45, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British people in colonial Australia

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:03, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category Mason (talk) 02:06, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Jewish chess players

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People in Europe by century

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Category:Catholic high schools in the United States by state or territory

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Category:Social classes in the Ottoman Empire

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 18:00, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT Mason (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom, category is not large enough to warrant diffusion. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Palestinian scientist stubs

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:23, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated stub category without evidence of approval by WikiProject Stub Sorting. As always, stub categories are not free for just any user to create for just any topic on a whim -- there have to be at least 60 articles to file in a stub category before its creation is warranted, and because of that size bar they have to be authorized by the WikiProject before they can be created.
But this wasn't submitted for approval, there's only one article in the category, and there's absolutely no prospect of getting to 60 articles since even the Category:Palestinian scientists parent tree only encompasses 47 articles total across itself and all of its subcategories.
I'm agnostic on whether the templates need to exist or not, as they can always just sort pages into the parent categories -- but a dedicated category for them can't exist until there are at least 59 more articles in it than this. Bearcat (talk) 12:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Shipwrecks in the Sulawesi Sea

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Shipwrecks in the Celebes Sea. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:17, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Sulawesi Sea is an alternate name of the Celebes Sea. Wikihistorian (talk) 11:54, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scholars under the Zirid dynasty

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People under the Zirid dynasty for now; no prejudice against recreation if and when it can be populated. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:15, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, without prejudice to recreating the category if and when it can be populated better. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support merge for now. I took the liberty of adding the only category member to Category:11th-century scholars, so the fact that they were a scholar is kept Mason (talk) 17:41, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hoey family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small cat; there are only two people who are married to each other Mason (talk) 03:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Łopaciński family

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Category:Stone family (North Carolina)

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:14, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small cat (n<3 ) without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. it's a pair of brothers Mason (talk) 03:28, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works about Koryo-saram

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Works about Koryo-saram people. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:13, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I'm not 100% sure of this, a bit complicated. For context, "Koryo-saram" means literally "Korean person". I previously proposed (and it seems likely to pass) that Category:Koryo-saram be renamed "Koryo-saram people", to make clear that it's a people category and to distinguish it from Category:Koryo-saram society. And for other categories like Category:Literature about Zainichi Korean people, the term "people" is used.
Tl;dr if we're already allowing "Koryo-saram people" and other categories use the "x about y people" pattern, should this also? toobigtokale (talk) 03:26, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. per nom/consistency Mason (talk) 03:48, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wiśniowiecki family residences

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Category:Chanov family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:12, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small cat; only 2 brothers in the category Mason (talk) 02:53, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Bouloussou family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small cat (n=1) without a corresponding eponymous article about the family Mason (talk) 02:43, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hodges family

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The result of the discussion was: delete. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:11, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Small cat (n<3 ) without a corresponding eponymous article about the family. it's a father-son pair Mason (talk) 02:36, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Biologists from British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 12:58, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Social workers in British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 13:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'd also be open to renaming it to FOO from British India. Mason (talk) 22:16, 17 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Trade unionists in British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:57, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 13:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Linguists in British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 13:03, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI. The same category creator @Johnpacklambert has made an alternative category... Category:Linguists from British India Mason (talk) 22:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Circus performers in British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) Qwerfjkltalk 17:56, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Trivial intersection Mason (talk) 13:09, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Scholars in British India

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:45, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: trivial intersection Mason (talk) 13:16, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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FYI. The same category creator @Johnpacklambert has made an alternative category... Category:Scholars from British India Mason (talk) 22:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Adoptees in the Russian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:45, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overlapping cat Mason (talk) 02:00, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian Empire escapees

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: overlapping category Mason (talk) 02:01, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Anti-capitalists from the Russian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping cat Mason (talk) 01:54, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Russian municipal police chiefs

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:44, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Seems to be rundudant with police chiefs Mason (talk) 01:30, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Hunters from the Russian Empire

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus – WP:NPASR. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 00:43, 24 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Hunters from the Russian Empire to Category:Russian hunters
Nominator's rationale: This category is extremely small, and doesn't have the larger parent nationality category. Mason (talk) 01:23, 16 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Physicians from the Republic of Genoa

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Category:Actresses from the German Empire

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:19th-century German actresses and delete Category:Actors from the German Empire as empty. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:07, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: small overlapping category where regime isn't a defining intersection with nationality + gender + vocation. Mason (talk) 00:47, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Zirid Ifriqiya

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:People under the Zirid dynasty. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: These seem to be overlapping to me Mason (talk) 00:33, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Poets of the Salghurids

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Poets under the Salghurids. (non-admin closure) HouseBlastertalk 17:01, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: parent is People under the Salghurids Mason (talk) 00:30, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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