Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 24
April 24
Category:20th-century Palestinian philosophers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:20th-century Palestinian philosophers to Category:Palestinian philosophers and Category:20th-century philosophers
- Nominator's rationale: 2x upmerge for now. There's not enough content to support diffusing Palestinian philosophers by century (2 people). Using petscan, I only found false positives https://petscan.wmflabs.org/?psid=28100706 Mason (talk) 23:42, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:42, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Cleveland Indians owners
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Cleveland Indians owners to Category:?
- Nominator's rationale: Remove redirect/undo merge. This category was turned into a redirect by my own error. It was a part of a Cfd I started but this particular category was not meant to be part of it. It should be a part of a larger tree of MLB owners (personnel have their own seperate tree regardless of what the name of the team was/is). Omnis Scientia (talk) 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @HouseBlaster, who closed the Cfd in question. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:00, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- For the record, the preceding CFD is Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_20#Category:Cleveland_Indians. It is hard to see what is wrong with the redirect to Category:Cleveland Guardians owners. @Omnis Scientia: is it that you want to split Category:Cleveland Guardians owners to Category:Cleveland Indians owners? if so then I suggest you delete this nomination and start again using {{cfs}} on the Guardians cat. – Fayenatic London 22:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london, you think its fine like this? If so then I will withdraw and leave it be. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I think I will close it for now and ask on WP:Baseball first. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london, you think its fine like this? If so then I will withdraw and leave it be. Omnis Scientia (talk) 22:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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British Conservative Jews
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:28, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:British Conservative Jews to Category:British Masorti Jews
- Propose renaming Category:British Conservative rabbis to Category:British Masorti rabbis
- Nominator's rationale: Rename and redirect. Follow-up to Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 April 7#Category:Conservative Judaism in the United Kingdom. – Fayenatic London 21:19, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:44, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per above --Lenticel (talk) 06:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:George Gershwin in film
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:George Gershwin in film to Category:Films scored by George Gershwin
- Nominator's rationale: To match everything else under Category:Film scores by composer. Fuddle (talk) 19:17, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. These are not films about George Gershwin. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:02, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom --Lenticel (talk) 06:59, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:37, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora in France (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:Arab-Jewish diaspora in the United States (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Confusion arises between Arab-Jewish ethnicity and the geographical grouping of member countries in the Arab League. Not all Moroccan Jews belong to the Arab-Jewish group, among other examples. Aldij (talk) 18:31, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, largely overlaps with the tree of Category:Sephardi Jewish culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Note 1: see also recent discussions at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 21#Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States (no consensus to merge Arab-Jewish to Mizrahi Jewish) and Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 March 31#Category:Arab-Jewish culture in the United States (consensus to rename Arab-Jewish culture to Arab-Jewish diaspora).
- Note 2: if these are deleted, I believe Category:Middle Eastern-Jewish diaspora and Category:North African-Jewish diaspora will remain undisturbed, and between them would continue to provide part of whatever may be useful in the top nominated category. Those 2 should be given see-also links to each other and to/from Category:Arab-Jewish culture.
- Note 3: Sephardi Jewish culture in France and Mizrahi Jewish culture in the United States will still contain the subcats of the other nominated categories, and the articles in the last one are within Sephardi Jewish culture in the United States. – Fayenatic London 21:45, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- The article Arab Jews begins, "Arab Jews is a term for Jews living in or originating from the Arab world. The term is politically contested, often by Zionists or by Jews with roots in the Arab world who prefer to be identified as Mizrahi Jews." Presumably "the Arab-Jewish group" of which the nominator Aldij speaks is one party to that political dispute. Well, if the categorisation is both contentious and a partial duplication of a less contentious hierarchy, then delete under WP:OVERLAPCAT. – Fayenatic London 21:59, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:United States National Recording Registry albums
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:United States National Recording Registry albums
Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Category:Pocatello Army Air Base Bombardiers football seasons
Category:Defunct National Association of Professional Base Ball Players teams
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Defunct National Association of Professional Base Ball Players teams to Category:National Association of Professional Base Ball Players teams
- Nominator's rationale: The NAPBBP has been defunct for over a century. User:Namiba 16:34, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Let'srun (talk) 13:36, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Rocket Power video games
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Rocket Power video games to Category:Rocket Power
- Nominator's rationale: Only has one article, unlikely to expand. (Oinkers42) (talk) 15:28, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom --Lenticel (talk) 07:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Dutch atheist writers
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- The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:35, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Dutch atheist writers to Category:Dutch writers on atheism
- Nominator's rationale: parent is Writers on atheism and this discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2024_March_19#Category:Writers_on_Atheism Mason (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename and purge per precedent. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per above --Lenticel (talk) 07:00, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Nazi Germany ministers
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 2#Category:Nazi Germany ministers
Category:Provincial Women's Hockey League teams
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 19:56, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: League was renamed in 2022 Wheatzilopochtli (talk) 04:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:American people of Zimbabwean descent by occupation
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:34, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: There's no need to diffuse this category by occupation, when there is only one occupation in it Mason (talk) 03:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Merge per nom.Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Meanwhile the nomination is moot. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:23, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Keep, @Marcocapelle I filled it with some other categories so there's no longer just one occupation in it. Thanks, --Habst (talk) 12:55, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Ethnic Hungarian politicians outside Hungary
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- The result of the discussion was: delete both Category:Ethnic Hungarian politicians outside Hungary and Category:Ethnic Hungarian politicians in Serbia. (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:31, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Ethnic Hungarian politicians outside Hungary to Category:Politicians of Hungarian descent
- Nominator's rationale: borderline C2C based on the parent category of People of Hungarian descent and sibling Sportspeople of Hungarian descent Mason (talk) 02:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Delete with its subcategory, the article in the subcategory is already in Category:Serbian people of Hungarian descent while the subcategory therein is already in Category:Hungarians in Vojvodina. The article (about a Hungarian parent of a Serb) and the subcategory (about the ethnic Hungarian people in Vojvodina) are entirely unrelated. I will tag the subcategory too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fine with me. I'll tag the category. Mason (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Lol, you beat me to it 😹😹 Mason (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Fine with me. I'll tag the category. Mason (talk) 23:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Asian American billionaires
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- The result of the discussion was: Merge * Pppery * it has begun... 19:39, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: As per the closure of Category:American Jewish billionaires recently, this also appears to be a case of WP:OCEGRS and was created by the same editor. Hilariously, it includes Richard Yuengling Jr., who'd surely be surprised at this revelation of his heritage. Chubbles (talk) 02:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose it should be merged to Category:American billionaires instead of plainly deleted? Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Agree that if not kept, it should be merged. Mason (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- @Chubbles: are you alright with a merge? (please ping on reply) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: The previously-named discussion, about Jews, closed as delete; should those be upmerged as well? They should be treated equivalently, in my view. There's also a couple other cats created by the same editor - Category:American Italian billionaires, Category:Italian American billionaires (not the same cat), Category:Arab American billionaires, Category:Asian American billionaires, and Category:American Hispanic billionaires. Chubbles (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Chubbles: I didn't get this ping (see WP:PINGFIX). If they are already processed, there is nothing we can do except for manually add the contents to a parent category (if we know which pages were previously in the category). So, yes, that category should have been upmerged, but that is not something we can fix here and now. Crying over spilled milk and all. Do you have any objections to merging this category? (In the interest of finding consensus, I support merging to Category:American billionaires.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: Can we just upmerge all the named categories? Chubbles (talk) 14:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Chubbles: we can, but that would need a separate discussion because those categories have not been tagged. See follow-up nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 3#Fooian American billionaires. HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 15:16, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: Can we just upmerge all the named categories? Chubbles (talk) 14:38, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Chubbles: I didn't get this ping (see WP:PINGFIX). If they are already processed, there is nothing we can do except for manually add the contents to a parent category (if we know which pages were previously in the category). So, yes, that category should have been upmerged, but that is not something we can fix here and now. Crying over spilled milk and all. Do you have any objections to merging this category? (In the interest of finding consensus, I support merging to Category:American billionaires.) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 13:24, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: The previously-named discussion, about Jews, closed as delete; should those be upmerged as well? They should be treated equivalently, in my view. There's also a couple other cats created by the same editor - Category:American Italian billionaires, Category:Italian American billionaires (not the same cat), Category:Arab American billionaires, Category:Asian American billionaires, and Category:American Hispanic billionaires. Chubbles (talk) 09:02, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- @Chubbles: are you alright with a merge? (please ping on reply) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:39, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Agree that if not kept, it should be merged. Mason (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Assassinated Iranian Kurdish dissidents
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure) HouseBlaster (talk · he/him) 02:29, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Assassinated Iranian Kurdish dissidents to Category:Assassinated dissidents and Category:Assassinated Iranian people and Category:Iranian dissidents and Category:Iranian Kurdish people and Category:Assassinated Kurdish people
- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining 4x intersection of ethnicity, political orientation, nationality, and cause of death. This definitely doesn't meet the criteria under WP:EGRS Mason (talk) 00:14, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Support, if only because Category:Assassinated Iranian dissidents doesn't currently exist. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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