Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 December 27
December 27
Category:Podujevo
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 4#Category:Podujevo
Category:WikiProject Lanka Premier League participants
- The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
- The result of the discussion was: merge Category:WikiProject Pakistan Super League participants and Category:WikiProject Lanka Premier League participants into Category:Asia cricket task force participants. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:15, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: The project does not exist anymore. Gonnym (talk) 09:34, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support in principle, possibly merge to Category:WikiProject Cricket participants. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:00, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Asia cricket task force participants, per the project redirecting to: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Asia cricket task force. - jc37 00:51, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
- Merge both Category:WikiProject Pakistan Super League participants and Category:WikiProject Lanka Premier League participants into Category:Asia cricket task force participants Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 10:39, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Adding sibling as suggested by Vestrian24Bio
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Fayenatic London 18:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:14, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1975 establishments in Chattisgarh to Category:1975 establishments in Madhya Pradesh
- Nominator's rationale: delete, Chhattisgarh exists since the year 2000 so nothing could have been established as early as 1975. It was part of Madhya Pradesh. If not merged, rename to Category:1975 establishments in Chhattisgarh because of a typo. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Support: I've checked some similar cases: A category "xxx establishments in yyy" is in most cases not used for "established in the year xxx and currently situated in yyy", but for "established in the year xxx and at the time of its establishment situated in yyy". E.g., Taipei is in Category:1884 establishments in China and not in Category:1884 establishments in Taiwan, New York City is in Category:1624 establishments in the Dutch Empire. (But note that e.g. Yusan Hall is an exception.) --Cyfal (talk) 22:39, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:3rd millennium auto races
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:16, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERCAT, this is unnecessarily specific. Motorsport has only been around for roughly a century, albeit one which happens to span a millenium change. Giraffer (talk) 13:58, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ok maybe the title is wrong but the purpose was to have a cat for races instituted in last decade or millenium like a category 'races by decades'. I know there are no other
catscategories yet, but if we go back,hohow can we grow? gtp (talk) 14:05, 27 December 2024 (UTC)- Races by decade may be a useful category, but I think races by millenium is not (especially given that we're only talking about a ~100 year period). I have no idea what your last sentence means. Giraffer (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- (Corrected my previous reply). My idea was to have century categories XXI, XX and (maybe) XIX century: if we look far in the future wikipedia, it is a good beginning. For the same reason spanning milleniums seems overcat. but today it means 2 categories (2nd and 3rd) instead of 3 (centuries) so...I've been bold. The purpose of such bi-categorization would have some logic if we consider major endurance races were founded
afterprior '60s or after 2000s. Not in the middle. gtp (talk) 16:54, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- (Corrected my previous reply). My idea was to have century categories XXI, XX and (maybe) XIX century: if we look far in the future wikipedia, it is a good beginning. For the same reason spanning milleniums seems overcat. but today it means 2 categories (2nd and 3rd) instead of 3 (centuries) so...I've been bold. The purpose of such bi-categorization would have some logic if we consider major endurance races were founded
- Races by decade may be a useful category, but I think races by millenium is not (especially given that we're only talking about a ~100 year period). I have no idea what your last sentence means. Giraffer (talk) 14:45, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Ok maybe the title is wrong but the purpose was to have a cat for races instituted in last decade or millenium like a category 'races by decades'. I know there are no other
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:22, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Needed-Class articles
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This category is empty, and I think it always will be. No WikiProjects have Needed-Class subcategories. The way to handle needed articles is to list them at WP:Requested articles. If one is created as a draft, a redirect, a disambig or a stub (or better), then each of those have their relevant Class. That is to say, if we create a page for a needed article as a redirect, then it should be in Redirect-Class, and could only be in Needed-Class if somebody manually added it there as well.
- I considered just renaming the category from articles to pages, as this is currently an exception among the non-article classes listed at WP:Assess. As soon as it's an article, then it's a stub or better. But if it's not an article, them it must be one of the other classes e.g. redirect. So, it's not needed.
- WP:ASSESS gives the example of Free City Of Mainz as of 2018, but that has since been written, and was a redirect then. "Needed-Class" does not seem to have been discussed on the talk page of that project page since 2009, when talk pages were allowed in isolation. ≤
- Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2008_April_14#Category:Needed-Class_articles was closed as Keep, but that was when projects had Needed-Class subcats. Category:Needed-Class former country articles was deleted under WP:G6 by Explicit in Oct 2023, apparently after this template edit by MSGJ to "use standard extended scale".
- Interwiki links show that 3 other Wikipedias currently have this category, but only one (Chinese) has anything within it, and that's just 3 empty topical subcats.
- If deletion is approved, this should be listed on the CFD/W/Manual page, as various templates will need to be amended. – Fayenatic London 14:08, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Seems a reasonable deletion as a long-forgotten relic. CMD (talk) 01:27, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Apparently the purpose for which it was created is no longer relevant. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 05:02, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- @Hesperian, PC78, Parsecboy, Coemgenus, Iazyges, ThaesOfereode, and Hurricane Noah: links on your user sub-pages indicate that you have found this category relevant or useful in the past. Please advise if you might want it kept, and if so why. – Fayenatic London 13:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Soft keep because I don't really understand how the category underbelly works here. I do use the needed {{icon}} and associated tags with some regularity in my subpages (mainly Operation Dura Lex). My area of expertise is rather niche and so there are a fair number of articles that still need to be created (and often they are useful placeholders for when determining WP:N). If the category can be safely deleted without affecting my current usage, I would be open to deleting it. ThaesOfereode (talk) 14:24, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Indifferent - my use is the same as ThaesOfereode to keep track of projects I'm working on. I don't use the category itself, it's a side effect of {{Needed-Class}}. If we can simply remove the category from the template and delete it, that's perfectly fine with me; if we need to delete both for some reason I don't understand, I'll live - there are alternative methods. Parsecboy (talk) 14:36, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete While I think it's useful to use needed class to highlight pages needing articles created for them, which differentiates them from normal redirects, it's pointless if nobody uses it anyway or reverts it back to a redirect. Noah, BSBATalk 12:35, 29 December 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Women's firsts in the film industry
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:21, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: or Merge with Category:Women film pioneers. Very vague category parameters. Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the category contains biographies rather than "firsts". Marcocapelle (talk) 16:24, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete per above. The criteria is uncertain. Abhishek0831996 (talk) 05:33, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
- Delete This is why a lot of Wikipedia lists of firsts get deleted at AfD. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:09, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Baseball players from Fayette County, Texas
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 4#Category:Baseball players from Fayette County, Texas
Category:Novels by theme
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 4#Category:Novels by theme