Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3

November 3

Category:Informal occupations

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: See WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. There doesn't seem to be an agreed-upon definition of what an "informal occupation" is, if it exists. Technically, I could call literally anything an "informal occupation", but a lot of times, such as with squeegee men, the only people who consider it one are the people who do it. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:54, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Corythaixoides

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to Clements, Corythaixoides has been synonymized with Crinifer. The iNaturalist taxonomic swap gives context for this. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Conversion infoboxes

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category only contains {{temperature}}, which isn't really an infobox. jlwoodwa (talk) 21:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Ciccaba

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Strix (genus). Strix can be discussed at Talk:Strix. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and ITIS, Ciccaba has been synonymized with Strix. This category's sole member, Black-and-white owl, is now Strix nigrolineata. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. I will also update Strix. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:14, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jlwoodwa: Various articles about Strix species formerly included within Ciccaba will need to be updated. If you can find the original source which synonymized this genus, that would be great. –LaundryPizza03 (d) 20:27, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@LaundryPizza03: ITIS saysSynonymized according to the placement of the type species, Strix huhula Daudin 1800, in the sources ITIS is following. ITIS's entry for Strix huhula cites IOC World Bird List (v 8.1) Freely accessible. It doesn't seem to explicitly state that Ciccaba huhula is renamed to Strix huhula; my guess is that it's implied by how the specific name and author citation are the same. I've also found some articles which mention or support the change:
But since IOC 8.1 was published in 2018, neither of those articles can be the original source. Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/References says that Wikipedia follows the IOC list by default; maybe IOC itself is the original source? jlwoodwa (talk) 20:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Centropodinae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Centropodinae is a monogeneric subfamily. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Captaincookia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to Phylogeny and classification of the species-rich pantropical showy genus Ixora Freely accessibleand POWO, Captaincookia has been synonymized with Ixora. jlwoodwa (talk) 20:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Candomblés by nationality

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Candomblé. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Candomblés by nationality to Category:Candomblés
Nominator's rationale: This is the only member of Category:Candomblés, and it only contains two subcategories (Brazilian Candomblés and French Candomblés). I don't think we need two nested container categories here. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:49, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Buffetia

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and WoRMS, Buffetia is not an accepted taxon, and Allenoconcha is used instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 19:39, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Belontiidae

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to WoRMS and Family-group names of Recent fishes Freely accessible, Belontiidae has been converted to the monogeneric subfamily Belontiinae of Osphronemidae. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:13, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Batrachoidiformes

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Percomorpha. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:57, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Batrachoidiformes is a monotypic order. jlwoodwa (talk) 18:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Further education colleges in Snowdonia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates Category:Further education colleges in Gwynedd. AusLondonder (talk) 17:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Awalycaeus

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to IRMNG and Genus-level revision of the Alycaeidae Freely accessible, Awalycaeus has been synonymized with Dicharax. jlwoodwa (talk) 17:18, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:2029 in Wuhan

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only a single article, a building scheduled to be completed in 2029. Unhelpful for navigation. Also per WP:CRYSTAL. AusLondonder (talk) 17:07, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Rums of the Pacific Rim

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose Deleting Category:Rums of the Pacific Rim
Nominator's rationale: WP:NONDEFINING (WP:OCLOCATION)
Since rum is usually bottled in the tropics near where sugar cane grows, we currently group rums under Category:Rum by country rather than by ocean basin. More importanty, I don't think that grouping rums from say Australia, the Philippines and El Salvador would aid reader navigation. - RevelationDirect (talk) 16:05, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Restaurants in Merseyside

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The result of the discussion was: triple merge as nominated HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:58, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Merge also to Category:Tourist attractions in Merseyside and Category:Buildings and structures in Merseyside.

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within the parents. AusLondonder (talk) 15:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Restaurants in Pembrokeshire

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The result of the discussion was: dual merge as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Also merge to Category:Buildings and structures in Pembrokeshire.

Category containing a single article, unhelpful for navigation. Better categorised within parents. AusLondonder (talk) 15:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Category:Restaurants in Lake Oswego, Oregon

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lake Oswego, Oregon. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing only one article, unhelpful for navigation. The one article is about a short-lived doughnut shop, not sure it should even be categorised as a restaurant. AusLondonder (talk) 14:50, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Fathers' rights by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. Category:Paternity by country can be the subject of a fresh nomination. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:02, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support as an unnecessary step in the category tree. Should we upmerge to Category:Paternity by country as well? jlwoodwa (talk) 17:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:People of Mexican California

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, the scope of the two categories largely overlaps. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:26, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:17th century in California

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, isolated category with only two articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:War films set in Partisan Yugoslavia

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename in order not to get confused with Category:Films about Yugoslav Resistance. Align with Category:Films set in France during World War II. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:28, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like an obviously good idea. --Joy (talk) 08:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Novels set during the Yugoslav Wars

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, only one article in it and the novel isn"t really about the Yugoslav Wars. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:24, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Austromenidia

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to WoRMS, Austromenidia is no longer a valid taxon. This category's sole member (Odontesthes gracilis) is already in Category:Odontesthes, so there's no need for merging. jlwoodwa (talk) 05:32, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Musical instruments played with drum sticks

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 11#Category:Musical instruments played with drum sticks


Category:Ataeniobius

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:05, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Ataeniobius is a monotypic genus. jlwoodwa (talk) 03:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Petroleum industry in Turkey

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The result of the discussion was: keep. The Bushranger One ping only 22:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category containing one article, unhelpful for navigation. AusLondonder (talk) 19:27, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed there is also a category called ‘Petroleum in Turkey’ so I put the page there instead. So as category now empty I suggest deleting it Chidgk1 (talk) 06:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on both Marcocapelle and Fayenatic london's comments?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Reformed Christianity

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The result of the discussion was: No consensus Sorry, this is just a mess. The nominator is a sock so an be discounted, leaving us with one clear support, one "support in principle", one "Lean opposed", and one clear oppose. The discussion has become a hairy argument over religious terminology that just doesn't have enough agreement for us to proceed with a nomination from the poisonous tree. And even if there were a consensus to move nobody supports the exact proposal being made here, with variations and expansions everywhere. Anybody who isn't a sock is welcome to start over with a better-articulated, complete nomination, etc. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:25, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Now that the main article has been moved to the correct title, these categories should also be moved according to the C2D criteria ('Consistency with the main article's name'). --Humpser (talk) 18:36, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should "reformed" be capitalized?
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  • In the Netherlands they were also sort of synonymous, though Calvinist usually referred to the doctrine of the church and reformed was in the name of the church (Dutch Reformed Church etc.). In the Dutch situation, Arminians are considered to be neither Calvinists nor reformed, so the rename is perfectly ok. In Switzerland the rename is particularly useful because Calvinism and Zwinglianism quickly merged to reformed. That fits with Olson's statement quoted above that reformed is broader than Calvinist. Renaming the categories to reformed does not harm in that case (possibly there could be a Calvinist subcategory but I do not expect so.) If the rename is a problem somewhere else than in the US, Netherlands or Switzerland, I'd like to hear specifically in which country. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:08, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Lean opposed. Wouldn't this narrow the category? This seems like making a lot of extra work and narrow the category. Mason (talk) 02:14, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't think it is. In any case, it certainly isn't broader than "Calvinist and Reformed". StAnselm (talk) 03:20, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@StAnselm in the source you provided, everything is different: many people who identify as Reformed do not identify as Calvinist, but all people who identify as Calvinist also identify as Reformed. 109.229.195.72 (talk) 20:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the same author has another article in which he says, "many Protestants are Calvinist but not Reformed and many others are Reformed but not Calvinist". StAnselm (talk) 21:46, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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  • If people in other denominations have adopted Calvinist views, as argued by the source quoted by StAnselm, then that is all the more reason to drop Calvinist from the category name. The category is about a denomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:01, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It certainly hasn't been used that way, and if it is renamed thousands of articles need to be checked for correct categorization. StAnselm (talk) 04:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by fighter aircraft shootdowns

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The result of the discussion was: delete. I understand the desire to keep the older category's history, but looking at it, the only edit post creation that isn't related to either a C1 or this CFD is a bot edit to add a wikidata link, that (due to the new/merged name) won't be on the merged/renamed category, so - given the only content of this category is the target category! - this is just a simple delete. If another admin disagrees then they can certainly undelete and history-merge. The Bushranger One ping only 22:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:Aviation accidents and incidents caused by fighter aircraft shootdowns to Category:Airliner shootdown incidents involving fighter aircraft
Nominator's rationale: The category name is grammatically awkward, overlong, and overbroad. All incidents currently listed in the category involve airliners, creating a branch of Category:Aviation accidents and incidents that largely and needlessly duplicates Category:Airliner shootdown incidents. Such incidents should only be listed in one of these category trees. Additionally, the category potentially encompasses combat in war depending on the definition of "incidents"; this creates potential category overlap with Category:20th-century aircraft shootdown incidents and Category:21st-century aircraft shootdown incidents. (Relisting to seek clearer consensus; I CfD'd this category previously but drafted the nomination poorly and did not suggest a merger target.) Carguychris (talk) 14:20, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The target has been renamed to Category:Airliner shootdown incidents involving combat aircraft. I will ping participants in the previous CFD.
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@Pppery and Smasongarrison: Thoughts on the above? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm indifferent to the name, but I agree with Marco that we should keep the page history of the older page. SMasonGarrison 03:11, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Aris Limassol

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:09, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Category:Aris Limassol FC, which is already in this category's parents (Category:Football clubs in CyprusCategory:Sports clubs and teams in Cyprus, and Category:Sport in Limassol) – hence no need for merging. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Online-only games

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The result of the discussion was: redirect to Category:Multiplayer online games. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:18, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is not a defining trait, mostly because it not executed properly (can you imagine all browser games that require WIFI in existence already?) it also heavily conflicts Category:Multiplayer online games which mostly contains games only having a multiplayer online mode QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why not merge and leave as a redirect? That would reduce the chances of this being created again. Mason (talk) 03:12, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge and redirect?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge and redirect?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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Alta California before 1824

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated (i.e. capital The Californias). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, according to article Alta California, the province was called The/Las Californias until 1804 (and also contained Baja California) and was called Nueva California until 1824. Instead of The Californias as a rename target I would also be fine with Province of Las Californias, per article title Province of Las Californias. When there is no opposition I will add the year categories to the nomination too. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:31, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Large bundled nomination; relisting to give extra time for objections.
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Question: Should it be "The Californias" instead of "the Californias"? Mason (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: For discussion on whether it should be "The Californias" or "the Californias".
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adding year categories to the nomination

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Category:Private schools Northern Beaches Sydney

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Northern Beaches. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category created by a private school, duplicates and doesn't improve on the existing categorisation scheme at Category:Private schools in Sydney and subcategories such as Category:Private secondary schools in Sydney. AusLondonder (talk) 11:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Nomination favors deletion – should we merge? If so, to which targets?
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Relisting comment: See above relisting comment
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Category:American soles

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The result of the discussion was: reverse merge. (non-admin closure) Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:36, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category:American soles and Category:Achiridae duplicate each other. Defaulting to merging in this direction since Category:American soles only contains the eponymous American sole. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse merge per WP:C2D – the name should follow the eponymous article American sole. I have tagged Category:Achiridae. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:37, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Artists who acted in films and television shows

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We already have Category:Film actors and Category:Television actors we don't need this strange intersection. There are tens of thousands of articles on actors of differing genders and nationalities and we don't need another branch on this tree. Liz Read! Talk! 00:25, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Alexteroon

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: According to AMNH, Alexteroon has been synonymized with Hyperolius. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Albanian bishops

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Contains only Category:Albanian Roman Catholic bishops. Unnecessary step in the category tree. jlwoodwa (talk) 00:06, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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