Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 5

October 5

Category:Artistic swimming at the 1994 Asian Games

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: rename the 1994 category. The rest were not tagged; I will list them at CFDS instead. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:52, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: having the same name as the main article based on this discussion Talk:Synchronized swimming at the 2014 Asian Games#Requested move 30 May 2022. Sports2021 (talk) 21:19, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Mexican California

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:59, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per what is presumably the main article of the category. Mexican California redirects to Alta California. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:46, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Mason (talk) 18:35, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:British music logos

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 12#Category:British music logos

Category:Medieval Indian Jain writers

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The result of the discussion was: alt merge (i.e. just merge the poets to the writers). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There's really not enough content to justify diffusing Indian Jain writers by century, even without raising the question of whether we should intersection nationality and relgion and occupaiton under EGRS. Perhaps Medieval Indian Jain writers to allow for some structure in the Indian Jain writers tree. Mason (talk) 18:09, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Lady Sovereign

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unneeded level of categorization per WP:OCEPON; the two subcategories are interlinked providing sufficient navigation. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:58, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:TOBE

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: With an article and a template, this doesn't qualify for C2F but this is a completely unnecessary category for the existing content. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:52, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Yachtracing-stub

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 12#Template:Yachtracing-stub


Category:UCLA Department of German faculty

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question/alternative: Is there a way to populate it? The merge target is extremely crowded, and diffusing by department/disciple is helpful. If not able to populate, I think we should repurpose the category to align with the European Languages and Transcultural Studies Faculty that does exist at UCLA [1]. Mason (talk) 18:22, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Transportation in the Californias

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only one page in this underpopulated category. I don't think this is helpful for navigation at the moment. Mason (talk) 14:56, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Carcharocles

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Otodus is the current accepted name, so it only makes sense to have the category at the correct location. NotAGenious (talk) 13:44, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Veterans of the Stonewall riots

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:04, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, the term "veterans" is quite specific but does not appear in the articles. "Participants" seems more neutral. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:37, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with renaming, on a side note this category appears to contain only one side when both sides are veterans/participants... I will be remedying that oversight by including relevant law enforcement veterans/participants. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:11, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with renaming and broadening the category's scope. Mason (talk) 18:23, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Kingdom of Albania

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, there are only two subcategories and very little content in each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:28, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chairmen of Trade associations of the Netherlands

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:03, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unclear what the purpose of this category is, most of the articles it has been added to are about politicians. It is the only category of this name for any country. Unhelpful for navigation as not within a specific category tree. AusLondonder (talk) 07:20, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Critics of veganism

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 12#Category:Critics of veganism

Category:Olympic Games swimming controversies

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:29, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I think we should purge and selectively merge this category because olympic swimming controversies are vague, and we don't really have enough content in Swimming controversies that are non-olympic to justify diffusing Mason (talk) 12:25, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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My concern is that most of the pages in Olympic Games swimming controversies aren't really about specific controversies. Mason (talk) 18:39, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Game jam video games

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Having been initially created as part of a game jam is not defining for these games. While it can be an interesting factoid that shows how game jams help inspire developers, my guess is that most players of Celeste, Inscryption, etc. don't know or care that it originated in a game jam, and it certainly isn't mentioned prominently in the gaming media. That makes this category fail WP:NONDEF. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 03:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Just because some players may not know the game originated from a game jam doesn't invalidate that there is recognization of what game jams produce in the industry as a whole, so this is a defining category. Also, "not mentioned prominently in gaming media" can be disproven with sources, [2], [3], [4] etc. --Masem (t) 03:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I can't read the first two sources but the third is surely irrelevant for this discussion. It proves notability of the topic, but it does not prove that it is defining for e.g. Amnesia Fortnight 2012. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    What I meant is that it is not typically mentioned when the gaming press talks about a particular game. Of course, game jams are notable. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:12, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If it's needed to show how games created through game jams are recognized post release as such games, it becomes a matter of picking examples, and this will depend on the impact of the game and relationship to coverage.
    A well known game is Inscryption and those sources are plenty eg [5], [6], [7]. Or Goat Simulator, [8], [9], [10].
    The idea is comparable to how a projects originates such as in Category:Crowdfunded video games and even to a degree of Category:Indie games (though here this has no question of being defining). The implication that players may not care about these is short sighted since these are a significant vector of new games into the industry and the industry recognizes the importance of game jams. — Masem (t) 19:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Grand Theft Auto mods

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:10, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Out all 4 of pages in this category, only 2 of these are individual mods: Multi Theft Auto and FiveM (FiveM is a redirect by the way). "Hot Coffee" is just a name for a minigame, it isn't its own mod and Grand Theft Auto modding is just for the modding in general. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:45, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Lean keep. Smallcat is no longer a policy. Four seems like enough to keep a category. And Hot Coffee requires a mod to access. Mason (talk) 02:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hot Coffee 'requiring a mod to access' does not make Hot Coffee itself qualify as a mod. Grand Theft Auto modding is about the modding in general, rather than one specific mod. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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  • Merge I agree that it simply isn't necessary at this time due to small size, though I disagree Hot Coffee is not a mod. Reliable sources all refer to it as a mod due to the enabling being via a mod and Wikipedia cannot just go with what someone decides it isn't. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:04, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Centuries in Landskrona‎

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Women local politicans

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