Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 4

September 4

Category:Members of the House of Commons of Canada by term

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Members of the House of Commons of Canada by term

Category:Disasters at organized events

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Disasters at organized events

Category:Cultural policy of Germany

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is underpopulated. Mason (talk) 22:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Transport companies of East Germany

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:20, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The only page in here was founded in 1916, which is well before East Germany existed. Mason (talk) 22:44, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Luthiers from Genoa

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Dual upmerge for now. There's only one person in here, which isn't helpful for navigation. Mason (talk) 22:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Jat states

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We avoid extensive WP:CASTE based categories, and the outcome linking caste and princely states at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 August 4#Caste based princely state categories was that these cats should be delted. This is just an alterered form of Category:Jat princely states for which there was a clear consensus for deletion as seen in the discussion. Gotitbro (talk) 17:35, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:1982 Japanese television episodes

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:1982 Japanese television episodes

Category:Cannabis distribution retailers of Canada

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:23, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Duplicates the more full Category:Cannabis shops in Canada. RA0808 talkcontribs 15:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Singers from Vijayawada, India

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Category newly created for just one article. The article, further, is a group, not a person, and a group should not be categorized as a "singer" — but regardless, this isn't necessary for just one article, and while the target has a few other singers in it, with only eight articles (including the one article here having been left there as unncessary duplicate categorization alongside this) it doesn't need to be subdivided.
Additionally, it warrants note that the creator also created a whole mess of other new "X from Vijayawada, India" categories to parent this, despite the fact that all of them duplicated "X from Vijayawada" categories that we already have. I've redirected all of those to the existing categories, but this is the only one that didn't already exist at the "Vijayawada" form. Bearcat (talk) 14:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nomination. Not enough entries in Category:Musicians from Vijayawada to need diffusion. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 15:14, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American writers about The Holocaust

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:American writers about The Holocaust

Category:First ladies and gentlemen of Las Vegas

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both subjects in this category are notable for themselves having served as mayor. Being married to a mayor is not generally notable in itself. Fails WP:COPDEF. AusLondonder (talk) 12:19, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:First ladies of Denver

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not a notable office. All members of the category were notable outside of being married to the mayor. Fails WP:COPDEF. AusLondonder (talk) 12:16, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:English chiropractors

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Redundant layer. Only two entries, and the parent cat only contains this. Upmerge both articles to Category:British chiropractors. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:32, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chiropractors by nationality

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Chiropractors by nationality

Category:Magritte Award winners

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Magritte Award winners


Category:Writings by topic

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is simple and straightforward: Anything that is referred to as "Writings" is by definition "Literature". End of discussion.
I should add that I've already made Category:Literature by topic a parent cat, just in case it turns out there is a useful distinction between the two terms that has somehow eluded me.
I would love to be enlightened as to why this Category was even created - especially considering that there is no Category:Writings to serve as its parent. However, that is exceedingly unlikely, given that its creator was our good friend User:Stefanomione, who has never to my knowledge responded in any way when informed of a CFD for one of his innumerable Categories. I will nonetheless notify him of this discussion. You never know. :) Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Anti-capitalist political parties

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. After a thorough discussion, no consensus was reached. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:52, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Anti-capitalism is not a distinct ideology (like say Socialism, Communism, Liberalism, etc.), and as such not a good categorization for political parties. Many political parties may have some anti-capitalist traits, but it is almost never the defining characteristic of the ideology of a party. Here we get a WP:OR hodgepodge, where disparate parties are grouped together. --Soman (talk) 21:34, 27 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All we'd need to do is swap the word "Foo" for something else and we've got the exact same rationale that being anti-something cannot be defining, even if it has a main article like Anti-capitalism (which, by the way, says in its opening sentence thatAnti-capitalism is a political ideology and movement..., undermining nom's primary argument that it's "not a distinct ideology").
I think nom needs to either (A) justify singling out only the Category:Anti-capitalist political parties tree for deletion, or (B) broaden the nomination with other anti-something parties, or (C) withdraw the nomination if it seems to be a bit special pleading-ish. If nom cannot do A or B, I'll have to oppose, but I'll give them the opportunity to explain their rationale. NLeeuw (talk) 13:49, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think it should be a mix of option A and B: incidentally there may be parties that are first and foremost against something rather than for something, but I expect these will be exceptions. I would be ok discussing them one by one. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:32, 28 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Content analysis I indirectly agree with @Marcocapelle that there is much overlap with child Category:Socialist parties (rather than grandchild Category:Communist parties), but some anti-capitalist parties are not socialist. Practically speaking, I think this category is good for all non-socialist parties that are also anti-capitalist, and that all anti-capitalist parties which are also socialist can be WP:DIFFUSED to child Category:Socialist parties (as probably very few socialist parties will openly identify as "capitalist" rather than "anti-capitalist"; I've not seen any examples). Based on the article contents we can group the following:
PS: The result is 7 non-socialist anti-capitalist party articles and 1 child cat. I think that's enough for a Keep. However, I might add that all these 8 non-socialist anti-capitalist parties are examples of Category:Right-wing anti-capitalism. Therefore, I would be open to rearrange the situation such that we consider all socialist parties anti-capitalist by definition (and thus diffuse them), we Purge the 4 parties whose status is unsourced, and that we Rename & Re-parent this category for the 7 + 1 non-socialist anti-capitalist parties to Category:Right-wing anti-capitalist parties, adding a catdesc with something like For left-wing anti-capitalist parties, see Category:Socialist parties. The only possible exception is the Liechtenstein Free Trade Association, which is difficult to put on the political spectrum, but probably leaned socialist ("against private property"), and could be put in parent Category:Anti-capitalist organizations instead if we can't make up our minds. I'm curious what other editors think. NLeeuw (talk) 07:52, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I don't agree. I would have agreed if the primary goal of these parties is abolishing capitalism, like communist parties, but that is not the case for these right wing parties. The only real anti-capitalist party here is Liechtenstein Free Trade Association. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:28, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Practically speaking, you're probably right, and I suspect a lot of political theorists would agree with you. I guess this is a case of whether we categorise parties according to what they claim their position is, and what scholars have concluded their actual position is. There will always be tensions between stated and actual positions, and that makes it difficult for us to categorise these parties. Category:Parties that claim to deliver rainbows and unicorns is probably easy to populate, but Category:Parties that have delivered rainbows and unicorns will probably always remain empty.[Joke] NLeeuw (talk) 07:02, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on NL's objections?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:02, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose - I have to say, I am genuinely astonished that nowhere in this discussion has there been any mention of Anarchist political parties, who are most assuredly Anti-capitalist. Evidently that is because Category:Anarchist political parties was left out of Category:Anti-capitalist political parties. (I've gone ahead and remedied that.) Never mind that the head Category:Anarchism is included as a subcat of the head Category:Anti-capitalism. The point being that there is a diverse array of political parties that are fairly described as "Anti-capitalist". Call it a "hodgepodge" if you like, but that is simply a reflection of the real world. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:42, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a fair point, although there is also a thing called anarcho-capitalism. But generally speaking, I did say that my opposition to the proposal could be broader than just categories with "anti-something" in the name. "republican" (lowercase "r") is often synonymous with "anti-monarchist", etc. "anarchist" means "anti-power", and as such is also an anti-something catname, and in that sense I agree with you.
    There is still no reason given to single out anti-capitalist for deletion, either in isolation or just as a first in a series of anti-something nominations, when this nomination cannot stand on its own feet. NLeeuw (talk) 06:54, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field)

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field)

Category:Pentose phosphate pathway

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Pentose phosphate pathway

Category:Chemistry instruments

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non defining/underpopulated category. Mason (talk) 01:47, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Chemistry volumetric instruments

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:49, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no need to create an intersection between the field and type of scientific instrument Mason (talk) 01:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Employment contracts

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 September 12#Category:Employment contracts

Category:Airport bus services in the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was: keep. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge. There's no need to diffuse by country Mason (talk) 01:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Construction law by country

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: There is no need to diffuse this topic by country, with two underpopulated categories. Mason (talk) 01:43, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Psychiatric procedures

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This underpopulated category only has one page in it, and Vagus nerve stimulation is not typically described as a "Psychiatric procedure" Mason (talk) 01:41, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Radio serials

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping category. Mason (talk) 01:39, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Construction law in France

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This underpopulated category was mass created by an editor who has not engaged with repeated attempts to discuss their approach to rapid-fire underpoplated intersecting categories. Mason (talk) 01:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Gaza envelope in the Israel–Hamas war

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This is a redundant category layer. Upmerge for now. Mason (talk) 01:33, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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