Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 11
April 11
Category:Entertainers from Wilmington, Delaware
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:18, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Entertainers from Wilmington, Delaware to Category:People from Wilmington, Delaware, by occupation
- Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just two entries. Also propose merging-
- Category:Entertainers from Albany, New York to Category:People from Albany, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Buffalo, New York to Category:People from Buffalo, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Mount Vernon, New York to Category:People from Mount Vernon, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from New Rochelle, New York to Category:People from New Rochelle, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Rochester, New York to Category:People from Rochester, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Syracuse, New York to Category:People from Syracuse, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Troy, New York to Category:People from Troy, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from White Plains, New York to Category:People from White Plains, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Yonkers, New York to Category:People from Yonkers, New York, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Coral Gables, Florida to Category:People from Coral Gables, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Daytona Beach, Florida to Category:People from Daytona Beach, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Gainesville, Florida to Category:People from Lakeland, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Pensacola, Florida to Category:People from Pensacola, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from St. Petersburg, Florida to Category:People from St. Petersburg, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Tallahassee, Florida to Category:People from Tallahassee, Florida, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Silver Spring, Maryland to Category:People from Silver Spring, Maryland by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Cumberland, Maryland to Category:People from Cumberland, Maryland, by occupation
- Category:Entertainers from Rockville, Maryland to Category:People from Rockville, Maryland, by occupation h
All subcategories with three or less entries.Lost in Quebec (talk) 21:55, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as per nom. Peaceray (talk) 20:42, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Belgian Congo in fiction
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:36, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Belgian Congo in fiction to Category:Belgian Congo
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:11, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Fiction by nationality
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 19#Fiction by nationality
Category:Relations of Georgia (country) and its former colonizers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, Georgia has never been a colony of the Ottoman or Russian Empire, it was simply part of those empires. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:35, 1 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 15:27, 11 April 2025 (UTC)- Delete per nomination. A neighboring empire owning their land doesn't make for a direct equivalent of European overseas colonialism, and it isn't really clear where the line can even be drawn (would the Achaemenid Empire mean that Georgia–Iran relations falls under that category?) Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 15:15, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Works about the military of the United States
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Category:Republican women
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Recently created category - may not be necessary, certainly misnamed. All articles are of American women in the Republican Party (United States), so would need to be renamed if retained. Gjs238 (talk) 12:20, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Note - No category tree for women/females at Category:American people by political party Gjs238 (talk) 16:15, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, trivial intersection. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, don't think that splitting up political party affiliation by gender is really necessary here. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:25, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete I am usually in favor of gendered categories, but I don't see much relevance in categorizing party affiliations by gender. Dimadick (talk) 08:55, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. I suspect the concept here was a faulty idea that women are inherently more progressive than men, and thus much more likely to be Democrats than Republicans, so a woman being a Republican is "unusual" enough to warrant special mention — but lots and lots of Republican women have existed through American history, most of whom aren't currently in this category. And I don't see anywhere near enough value in crosscatting political party affiliation with gender to justify actually trying to fully populate this, either. Bearcat (talk) 23:46, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Actors from Ada County, Idaho
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just one entry. Also propose deleting-
- Category:Actors from Idaho by county
Underpopulated subcategory also. Lost in Quebec (talk) 11:36, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Operas set in the Low Countries
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:19, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, trivial intersection between culture and historical region. It would have been different if there were medieval operas in the category, but that is not the case. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:09, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Relations of Europe and its former colonies
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. @GreekApple123 and Marcocapelle: Feel free to discuss recreation under a suitable name and with suitable contents at your leisure. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:21, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, the category title is incorrect, it is not about relations of Europe, but about relations of one European country at a time. The parent category suffices, we have the country categories there anyway. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There are many topics that can go under this category, not just the individual European countries. GreekApple123 (talk) 11:22, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Such as which articles? Article White guilt is mainly about the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I would think topics like reparations, or anything discussing the unique cultural and structural heritage the world has inherited from Europe. I am not sure which articles exactly to select, but I feel confident the category will be of use, and it may be helpful to categorize by continent like this even for the other countries. GreekApple123 (talk) 15:13, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- The category will only be of use if you select articles. Otherwise the category will remain empty because it is obvious that the current content does not fit the title. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- If that is how you see it, maybe you can delete the category now and I can later re-create the category later with your input on which articles to put in it. GreekApple123 (talk) 18:57, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- The category will only be of use if you select articles. Otherwise the category will remain empty because it is obvious that the current content does not fit the title. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:40, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- I would think topics like reparations, or anything discussing the unique cultural and structural heritage the world has inherited from Europe. I am not sure which articles exactly to select, but I feel confident the category will be of use, and it may be helpful to categorize by continent like this even for the other countries. GreekApple123 (talk) 15:13, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Such as which articles? Article White guilt is mainly about the United States. Marcocapelle (talk) 14:43, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Surahs by number
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:20, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, duplicate of Category:Chapters in the Quran, contains redirects only. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:04, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of events
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- The result of the discussion was: disperse between Category:History-related lists and Category:Society-related lists. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:39, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of events to Category:Society-related lists
- Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Other merge targets aren't needed, the subcategories are already in Category:Events by location and Category:Organized events respectively. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- support Makes browsing of categories easier. --Altenmann >talk 19:12, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Comment the subcats need cleaning up if this is just for society lists, since there are such as lists of quakes in the category tree (and the problematic "event" here not being restricted to societal ones). Since Cat:Events is under Cat:Time; and not Cat:Society; this should not be in the society-tree at all. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 07:56, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
- Good point, so then disperse between Category:Society-related lists (the organized events subcat can still go in there) and Category:History-related lists. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Minsk in fiction
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Works set in Minsk and reparent. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:42, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Propose merging Category:Minsk in fiction to Category:Culture in Minsk
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory.Marcocapelle (talk) 06:53, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose: I looked into other cities of Category:Cities in fiction, and I can easily add Category:Novels set in Minsk, category:Television shows set in Minsk, not to say about Category:Films shot in Minsk. Belarusfilm was quite busy in the Soviet times, with all these WWII Soviet partisan films and books. It is simply nobody cared about these trifles, but Minsk is no worse than, say, Manila in fiction or Category:Pattaya in fiction. --Altenmann >talk 19:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- P.S. It is funny for me to see this haphasard random categorization. E.g. Last Tango, Then Paris is "Prague in fiction", but not "Paris in fiction" :-) --Altenmann >talk 19:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: as a cat exper4t, can you take a look at Category:Prague in fiction and Category:Works set in Prague: they appear to be identical. And a general question: what is about this hair splitting between "Works set in X" and "X in fiction"? --Altenmann >talk 19:57, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Altenmann: "Works set in X" should be a subcategory of "X in fiction". But "X in fiction" may also contain other stuff, such as fictional people from X, or other fictional elements in X. If the latter sort of content does not exist then the "X in fiction" is redundant. There is no need to add e.g. Category:Novels set in Minsk to Category:Minsk in fiction because it is already in Category:Works set in Minsk. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: Thx, I see the differnce. Now back to my original question: it appears that all subcategories of Category:Prague in fiction, with the exception of "Films shot in Prague" are in its subcategory Category:Works set in Prague. Is the redundancy to be removed? --Altenmann >talk 06:13, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Altenmann: yes, that seems obvious to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- OK, just wanted to double-check. --Altenmann >talk 06:57, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Altenmann: yes, that seems obvious to me. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:24, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Updating the nomination: Propose renaming Category:Minsk in fiction to Category:Works set in Minsk and re-parent accordingly. There isn't any content in the category apart from "Works set in". Marcocapelle (talk) 06:31, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Maybe later we may split another hair :-) "Set in Minsk" are indeed "set in", whereas "Minsk in fiction" may include occasional mentioning of Minsk, e.g., someone describes his youth spent in Minsk and how Minsk was bombed to stone age by the Nazis. --Altenmann >talk 06:57, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Bangladesh in fiction by city
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:40, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only two subcategories. Move the Dhaka subcategory directly under Category:Bangladesh in fiction and Category:Cities in fiction. Move the Bogota subcategory directly under Category:Colombia in fiction and Category:Cities in fiction. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:35, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Dukes of Montblanc
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 19#Category:Dukes of Montblanc
Category:Queens consort of India
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Indian queens consort. (non-admin closure) Cremastra talk 14:28, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Queens consort of India to Category:Indian queens consort
- Nominator's rationale: rename per actual content, none of these queens consort was queen consort of the state India, instead they were queen consort of a former country in what is currently India. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 09:02, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Deceased fictional characters
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Category:Mayiladuthurai
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- The result of the discussion was: withdrawn (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 07:33, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant with Category:Mayiladuthurai district Gjs238 (talk) 01:21, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Mayiladuthurai is not redundant with Category:Mayiladuthurai district. The town of Mayiladuthurai is the administrative headquarters and a distinct geographical entity within the district. Therefore, maintaining a separate category for the town is appropriate and enhances the organization and navigability of Wikipedia. It allows for proper classification of topics specifically related to the town, such as its history, culture, landmarks, and institutions, which may not be relevant to the broader district category. En.saravanan (talk) 07:11, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
Delete per nom.Marcocapelle (talk) 05:03, 11 April 2025 (UTC)- @Marcocapelle@Gjs238 Please refer the above request and explination, kindly review this and consider removing the CFD template from the category page. Thanks En.saravanan (talk) 07:18, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @En.saravanan: I see. It was very confusing that you populated the category with district subcategories. If this is about a populated place only, then district subcategories do not belong here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle Thanks for your help. En.saravanan (talk) 11:18, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @En.saravanan: I see. It was very confusing that you populated the category with district subcategories. If this is about a populated place only, then district subcategories do not belong here. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:38, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle@Gjs238 Please refer the above request and explination, kindly review this and consider removing the CFD template from the category page. Thanks En.saravanan (talk) 07:18, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Withdraw proposal as per above. Category cleanup instead. Gjs238 (talk) 13:07, 12 April 2025 (UTC)
- Thank you. En.saravanan (talk) 06:22, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Paintings by Zeki Faik İzer
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:22, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Recently created 1-article category with no article about the artist. Gjs238 (talk) 01:17, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:10, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:LGBTQ designers
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:22, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete as per Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_December_3#Category:Women_designers Gjs238 (talk) 00:47, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Schools for the blind in South Africa
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:22, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:Schools for the blind in South Africa to Category:Special schools in South Africa and Category:Schools for the blind
- Nominator's rationale: upmerge for now. this category is underpopulated SMasonGarrison 00:10, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Most sibling categories should be merged too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:16, 11 April 2025 (UTC)
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