Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 21

April 21

Category:Anthropomorphic horses

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#Category:Anthropomorphic horses


Category:Spillover of the Sudanese civil war

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: the cat to claim to be about Spillover of the Sudanese civil war, but the clashes there are about South Sudan (a different country from Sudan), which has its own political turmoil that has been exacerbated with the arrest of the vice president. Also nothing in the articles added to this cats talk about how this is linked to the Sudanese civil war FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:59, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy seasons

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:14, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Only contains one article. (Oinkers42) (talk) 19:02, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Kuna people

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Articles for Guna people and Guna language now both have the updated spelling, so for consistency the categories should be updated as well. Pineapple Storage (talk) 18:44, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I raise no objection. Your proposal is only logical. As for why the official orthography of stop consonants has changed, the Guna language article explains:
Sounds like they could have flipped a coin.
Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 18:26, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Members of KAJ

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:15, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: All redirects to the group's page. Consensus is to not have "musicians by band" categories unless at least two members have their own articles. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 16:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Got it! I suppose all three members will soon have their own articles (as they do in sv fi he). So it should be deleted until they actually do become their own articles? Cogitato (talk) 16:35, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the articles for the individual members should exist before the category. If you're permitting, this can be speedy deleted per {{db-g7}}. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 17:24, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Superisliga players

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#Category:Superisliga players


Category:Collection of the Nationalmuseum Stockholm

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:48, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Previously a speedy discussion, see Category talk:Paintings in the Nationalmuseum Stockholm. For the first case, NM, the article is at Nationalmuseum, the lead does not use "the Nationalmuseum", and the article sometimes use it. It may need a disambiguator, as Nationalmuseum may be created in other Germanic languages (and Swedish-speaking countries), but I'm starting here. For the second case, MM, "the" is not used within the article. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Nature reserves in Håbo Municipality

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#Category:Nature reserves in Håbo Municipality

Category:Cities in Sweden by county

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The result of the discussion was: merge/delete as nominated. A nomination for merging/deleting Category:Cities in Sweden can be filed separately. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:00, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: City was an administrative status Sweden that existed until 1971; there were around 130 cities in total at the end. It has occurred merges and name changes of the counties since the status was removed. The proposal is a reverse of creation of these categories in 2022 because it is not useful to categorise these "former" cities by current counties and the categories are small. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Professional ice hockey leagues in Belgium

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One article or article and eponymous category in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Railway stations in Sweden opened in 1856

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: One article in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Alby, Botkyrka

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: 1–2 articles in each category; does not help navigation. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 13:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works set in Illinois by city

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Priors of Great Malvern

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:54, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Scottish expatriates in the Republic of Venice

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge for now, currently only one article, this is not helpful for navigation. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Events by country

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename and re-parent, with very few exceptions this is all about organized events. After renaming the category can be moved under Category:Organized events by location. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Västanfors

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: A neighbourhood in Fagersta. Only three out of five articles mention Västanfors. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 09:50, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Works set in Lublin

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:19, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Holy Roman Empire in fiction

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: merge, redundant category layer with only one subcategory each. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:52, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge both per nom. The subcats are clear in the title that they are "works" cats, so they can be in the main cat, not needing this intermediary. - jc37 08:49, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:18, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerge to category:Jewish holy days Pointless category. The articles are not about names, but about holidays. --Altenmann >talk 04:10, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cemeteries in Katsina State

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 03:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Hausa-language literature awards

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The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Hausa literature. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:19, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Underpopulated category SMasonGarrison 02:38, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Violence against women in the Pitcairn Islands

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:47, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. Underpopulated category. SMasonGarrison 02:32, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Active churches in Turkey

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The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Non-defining category. There isn't an Category:Active churches SMasonGarrison 02:31, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ethiopian Civil War nurses

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The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:02, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. This category is underpopulated SMasonGarrison 02:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:American radicals

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#Category:American radicals

Fictional characters by work

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The result of the discussion was: complicated. jc37 supports their proposal, namely, merging all three trees together. StarTrekker opposes change, period. The middle ground was taken by Marcocapelle and LaundryPizza03, who both support deletion of Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium. LaundryPizza03 also supported a rename of Category:Fictional characters by franchise, but I don't actually see most participants as commenting on that proposal, and additionally supported a merge of Category:Fictional characters by medium. Marcocapelle opposed merging the other two categories. There isn't a whole lot of policy/guideline analysis here; we are determining what best helps navigation. WP:OVERLAPCAT is the only PAG cited in the discussion (other than a brief mention to WP:INVOLVED regarding relisting). Neither side's argument citing OVERLAPCAT was particularly stronger (they do overlap, but maybe that's okay: by analogy, a "by country" and a "by continent" tree overlap, but still helps with navigation). All that is to say, I think that leads to rough consensus to delete Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium (supported by three editors), rough consensus to keep Category:Fictional characters by franchise (supported by three editors), and no consensus regarding Category:Fictional characters by medium (50/50 split). Finally, a rename nomination for Category:Fictional characters by franchise to Category:Fictional characters by work might find consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:53, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, so we have three trees all doing effectively the same thing:

And in looking at these: "by medium", is really "by medium of work", which we tend to categorise as "by work". And "by franchise", is really just "by related works".

These just create unnecessary intermediary layers between parent and child cats; and also broad segmentation of topics, which is a bane to navigation for our readers.

This is severe WP:OVERLAPCAT.

These trees all need cleanup. Elements of fiction (and related cats) are scattered everywhere. And the first step, I think, is that we need to unify under a single naming standard. Once we do that, we should be able to more easily clean up a lot of the mess.

So this is a test nom to see what we can decide about the "by work", "by medium", "by franchise", and "by franchise and medium", trees. I think they all need to be merged to a single tree of a unified name. What do you all think? - jc37 18:51, 11 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: A lot of different options are on the table; rename? Keep? Merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 07:18, 20 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Franchise/medium
Continent/country
  • I think the best course of action is then to delete Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium and use Category:Fictional characters by franchise to hold Category:Film characters by franchise. I am not sure about anything else. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:56, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you very much for drawing the chart : )
    It illustrates how the "by franchise" and "by medium" layer are duplicative, and could both be replaced with "by works" (as you note above).
    So, in this chart, both FC by medium and FC by franchise would be merged to FC by work. And FC by franchise and medium deleted/upmerged to FC by work
    Sci Fi chars by franchise (also part of the genre tree) renamed to SFC by work.
    Film chars by franchise renamed/merged to Film chars by work
    And the trees become a bit more straight-forward, and easier for the reader's to navigate. And it also (re-)unites various articles that should be part of the trees, which aren't, as Marcocapelle noted above.
    Once this is done, cleanup will be MUCH easier : ) - jc37 23:51, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Would this also mean eliminating the "by continent" category levels, since there are only seven of them? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:37, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not proposing anything about "by continent" as far as I know. I'm merely looking at the fiction elements trees and see a spiderweb over varying choices of "how" to categorise them over the years, and was looking to unify them a bit, to the single term (works) that we seem to have settled on for films, literature, video games, etc. Due to how they are currently separated, "like" isn't being categorised with "like". They are being strewn across various similar trees. The godfather one is just an obvious example. And having a parent to hold cats that have "franchise" in the name", just segments things even more.
    But if you mean it as an analogy, I think this is different than "continent". A continent is a geographical region. Countries are created boundaries upon this geographical region. (Though I suppose it could be argued that Eurasia is arbitrarily divided). So I don't know if they are a similar situation. Especially, since we don't seem to have genres of continents : )
    Kidding aside, I'm not sure how you're intending the comparison. There are just a lot of ways in which these character cats are being subdivided, I think removing these two layers, aids navigation. We will still have subcats of FC in film, but they just will be categorised a tier (or 2) up. This will be helpful as we look at how these cats intesect with other trees as well. Which should also make it less confusing for editors who are trying to add things into the tree(s). - jc37 07:03, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no objection to merging the trees — I think that point sums up nicely why we have continent categories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:07, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jc37, StarTrekker, and LaundryPizza03: would you mind if we relist this discussion once more? I think, at the very least, that we need to confirm or clarify or summarize our positions before anyone else will be able to close this discussion. I suppose being WP:INVOLVED does not necessarily prevent us from relisting. Personally I got lost after 14 February but I am certainly willing to have a look at it again when things are more clearly presented. Or alternatively we close this discussion as no consensus and start an entirely fresh discussion that is hopefully more easy to follow. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:03, 18 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Uninvolved, but I am taking Marcocapelle's suggestion. I am going to ping all participants and ask them for their current views on the categories. If you support a merge, which categories should be merged to which other categories?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Jc37, StarTrekker, LaundryPizza03, and Marcocapelle: what are your current thoughts on what, if anything, should be merged, and to which targets? Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:46, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Merge the 3 nominated categories into Fictional characters by work, per nom (per WP:OVERLAPCAT), for the reasons laid out in the discussion. Basically these are unnecessary intermediary layers, and worse, they act as blocks to trees, and make it a.) more difficult to categorise pages appropriately, and b.) make it more difficult for the reader to find what they are looking for and c.) make the trees rather into an incompletely patchwork where some articles are not getting categorised appropriately due to "a". This streamlines the trees and will make cleanup of the various trees far easier. - jc37 05:58, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I stand by my oppose. I do not see how this categorization scheme is any more difficult or hindering for navigation than any other. If there are cases where franchise or medium doesn't make sense there is nothing stopping anyone from creating Fictional characters by work as another category.★Trekker (talk) 12:45, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I think jc37 made a solid point for merging Category:Fictional characters by medium because it makes it harder to find and place the subcategories for certain multi-medium franchises. Even if we don't, Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium should be deleted as redundant and the "by franchise" one should be renamed to Category:Fictional characters by work to be more inclusive. I think that rename is the only consensus thus far. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 08:28, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • So there are two independent trees: by medium and by franchise. I agree with LaundryPizza03 that Category:Fictional characters by franchise and medium can be deleted as redundant: e.g. Category:Film characters by franchise is already in the tree by medium, while Category:Star Wars characters by medium is already in the tree by franchise. However I am afraid that merging the top category by medium and the top category by franchise is going to lead to an enormous mess. Each one separately is messy enough in its current state. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:08, 22 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Slavery of Native Americans

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The result of the discussion was: implement jc37's plan. To reprint:Prune and Split Category:Slavery and Native Americans (and all its subcats which follow the format Category:X and slavery), to Category:Slavery of Native Americans and Category:Native American slave owners. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:56, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Overlapping categories SMasonGarrison 03:06, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 00:30, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag those categories; apologies for neglecting to do so earlier.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Smasongarrison: Thoughts? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:37, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Seems fine SMasonGarrison 02:08, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Airstrikes by belligerent party. Clear consensus for a rename, so I am picking the option with plurality support per WP:BARTENDER. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 02:59, 28 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator to Category:Airstrikes by combatant
Nominator's rationale: NPOV issues with the term perpetrator -- perpetrator is an inherently value-laden term that assumes criminal activity, whereas combatant is a neutral term used in international law to describe participants in military conflicts. Althistwikibox (talk) 14:43, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Not that this is strictly necessary, but here's the link to the Wiktionary entry for "perpetrator."
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/perpetrator
It's inextricably linked to the concept of criminal activity, and not all of the airstrikes are inherently criminal. Althistwikibox (talk) 15:29, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Alternate rename to Category:Airstrikes by country involved. Remove from Category:Categories by perpetrator, which is probably unnecessary due to WP:NARROWCAT. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:50, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I would be in favor of removing the category from Category:Categories by perpetrator, but I believe that Category:Airstrikes by country involved would be too restrictive, as airstrikes conducted under the auspices of NATO are also included in the category, and since NATO isn't a country, those would not be included in the alternate renamed category. Althistwikibox (talk) 15:51, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename target? Not seeing any support for the current name.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Quick question -- I'm new to Wikipedia, so I don't know all of the lingo around here. What do you mean by "rename target?" From context, I'm guessing that you're just looking for more consensus on changing the name, but I'm not quite sure. Althistwikibox (talk) 14:16, 8 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Althistwikibox: Sorry, I just saw this now. By "rename target", I mean that if the category is renamed, what should it be renamed to? "Rename target" is shorthand for the new, post-renaming category name. If you have questions about anything I've said, you are always welcome on my talk page :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:48, 19 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Does Category:Airstrikes by belligerent party work?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:06, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I'd support that. I still prefer my original suggestion of Category:Airstrikes by combatant, but it ultimately doesn't make much difference, as both terms are neutral. I just feel that combatant is a less "clunky"/wordy term than belligerent party. Althistwikibox (talk) 05:22, 24 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Holidays

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: split as nominated. Clear consensus for a split. However, rather than dragging this out for longer (it has been open for a month), I am going with the nomination per WP:BARTENDER. Note that renaming Category:Observances to Category:Holidays and observances would be equivalent to implementing the alt nomination, and editors interested in that option are welcome to make a rename nomination at any time. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:13, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: split, a holiday may mean an observance day, but holidays may also mean vacation. This category contains a mix of both. Split according to the two meanings and convert Holidays to a disambiguation page. This nomination is inspired by an earlier comment by User:Jc37. Marcocapelle (talk) 15:55, 30 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Skanör

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#Category:Skanör

Category:Educators from Los Angeles

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:11, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated Subcategory. Lost in Quebec (talk) 21:44, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. This has two subcategories in it (after the nominator removed all of the subcategories of Category:Academics from Los Angeles). This category has been in existence for less than a week. I don't see why the nominator didn't add a few people or nudge me to do it. SMasonGarrison 22:29, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This editor has been told multiple times by multiple editors that working, going to school, or dying in Foo, doesn't make the person automatically from there. See my talk page[1]. Lost in Quebec (talk) 22:47, 4 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And the above editor is adding incorrect articles to this category. Two academics, here and here. Plus an article on a teachers strike and a trade union. In fact the two people articles they added only mention the people working in Los Angeles not living there. They may not belong in academics either.Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:25, 5 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Could you try to populate the category? I moving them from the broader "People from Los Angeles" category. SMasonGarrison 19:42, 7 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The category has been significantly expanded since nomination, but there is dispute to the inclusion of some of them.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 14:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • This needs a broader discussion. Generally I would argue that the tree of people by location and occupation should be limited to the location(s) in which the occupation is exercised, whether the subject lives there or not. Currently the tree is also used for location of birth which is unrelated to occupation. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd be fine with having that broader conversation because I agree with Marco's interpretation. But... I don't think it particularly helpful in this narrow category nomination. My goal was to try to diffuse the People from Los Angeles category. SMasonGarrison 02:13, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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FBG Duck categories

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 29#FBG Duck categories

Category:Economists from Washington, D.C.

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:10, 29 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: After the CfD that merged Category:Economists from New York City, I'm inclined to support the same for this one. It is also a rather small category, at nine pages within a parent that has only three others. I also picked three articles at random, and at least two of them did not work in DC so deletion is also an option. No attempt was made to determine if all pages are within other subcategories of Category:American economists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:53, 13 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Lost in Quebec's comment?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:05, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. I think that even though Washington DC is a unique hybrid of state and populated place, it doesn't protect it from being merged for being underpopulated.

SMasonGarrison 02:16, 21 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Comment :@Smasongarrison Nine entries is underpopulated. I've seen stiff resistance to People from Foo categories with 3-4 entries that were nominated for merging. If 10 or more are needed, I count almost two dozen A-B named foo towns on this page[2] out a category with 600 entries. That is just one state, throw in occupation categories, we're going to talk about over ten thousand categories. That may be an underestimation too. 9 isn't underpopulated.Lost in Quebec (talk) 20:47, 26 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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