Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 5
April 5
Category:DreamWorks Animation animated films
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:19, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:DreamWorks Animation animated films to Category:DreamWorks Animation films
- Propose renaming Category:DreamWorks Animation animated short films to Category:DreamWorks Animation short films
- Nominator's rationale: In this case, DreamWorks Animation specifically only produces animated films, while DreamWorks Pictures produces live-action as well. Since all films from DreamWorks animation are animated, there is no ambiguity here and the word "animated" can be dropped from the title. RanDom 404 (talk) 23:26, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support for conciseness, and to avoid needless redundancy. BD2412 T 17:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Hollyoaks navigational boxes
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Soap opera navigational boxes and Category:Hollyoaks. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:19, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Hollyoaks navigational boxes to Category:Soap opera navigational boxes
- Nominator's rationale: Merge to Category:Hollyoaks as well. Only one page. RanDom 404 (talk) 23:26, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:27, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of railway stations in Ireland
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to all parents. These are Category:Lists of railway stations in Europe, Category:Railway stations in Ireland, Category:Irish railway-related lists, Category:Lists of buildings and structures in Ireland, and Category:Lists of buildings and structures in Northern Ireland. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:23, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of railway stations in Ireland to Category:Irish railway-related lists
- Nominator's rationale: Parent has three pages, so adding this would do. RanDom 404 (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Then also merge to the other parent categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:750 mm gauge railways in the Cook Islands
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:750 mm gauge railways and Category:Railways in the Cook Islands. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:20, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:750 mm gauge railways in the Cook Islands to Category:750 mm gauge railways
- Nominator's rationale: Merge to Railways in the Cook Islands as well since only one page. RanDom 404 (talk) 22:44, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:The Young and the Restless episodes
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- The result of the discussion was: merge with no prejudice to recreation if the drafts mentioned by DaniloDaysOfOurLives become articles. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:16, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:The Young and the Restless episodes to Category:The Young and the Restless
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page. RanDom 404 (talk) 22:28, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep There are currently several articles in the process of being created and hence by the end of the month there will be at least 3 pages there DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 22:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. No objection to recreate the category when several more articles are available. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:33, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Desperate Housewives episodes
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. Category is diffused to several large subcategories at the season level, as observed by Marcocapelle. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:05, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Desperate Housewives episodes to Category:Desperate Housewives
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page. RanDom 404 (talk) 22:27, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, the category also contains 9 subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:35, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of Doctors (2000 TV series) characters
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. A nomination of Category:Doctors (2000 TV series) lists might find consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:26, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Only one page in parent category, merging would populate it. RanDom 404 (talk) 22:26, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, if merged it should be merged to all parent categories and that is not a good idea since this is a well-populated category. It is correct that Category:Doctors (2000 TV series) lists only contains one subcat and one article, so better nominate the latter for upmerging. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:38, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Keep per Marcocapelle, and upmerge Category:Doctors (2000 TV series) lists. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Categories in fiction
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Fiction about X (as nominated). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:27, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Snipers in fiction to Category:Fiction about snipers
- Propose renaming Category:Seismology in fiction to Category:Fiction about seismology
- Propose renaming Category:Opioids in fiction to Category:Fiction about opioids
- Propose renaming Category:Opioid epidemic in fiction to Category:Fiction about the opioid epidemic added one day later
- Propose renaming Category:Newspaper distribution in fiction to Category:Fiction about newspaper distribution
- Propose renaming Category:Grief in fiction to Category:Fiction about grief
- Propose renaming Category:Diaspora in fiction to Category:Fiction about diaspora
- Propose renaming Category:Atlantic slave trade in fiction to Category:Fiction about the Atlantic slave trade
- Nominator's rationale: rename, these are set categories containing articles about fictional works rather than topic categories containing articles about literature. This was a WP:C2C nomination at WP:CFDS and as such opposed by User:HandsomeFella. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:21, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename all to Category:Works about X. (Including Category:Opioid epidemic in fiction, which apparently was missed in the nomination.) With the possible exception of Category:Atlantic slave trade in fiction to Category:Fiction about the Atlantic slave trade (per nom) - as that cat does not hold multiple work types, like TV, film, or video games. - jc37 21:58, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Added Category:Opioid epidemic in fiction too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:30, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename all No objection to widening the scope per your suggestion, but it is "the opioid epidemic", a singular event. Dimadick (talk) 08:59, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed on "the" (I went ahead and added it, please feel free to revert).
- That said, I think each of these may need to be pruned once renamed, as not all the entries are "about" the topic - which is presumably why we have this naming standard: to prevent category bloat of mere mentions. In the case of the opioid epidemic one, what is likely left after purging might be better just merged to the parent (about opiods). - jc37 23:41, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Should the rename target be Fiction about X or Works about X? Clear consensus for a rename.
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- @Jc37: I don't have a preference between the names in principle. I am just noting that "works about" is not part of the fiction tree because many works about something are non-fiction. This is different from "works set in" which almost exclusively contains fiction. If renamed to "works about" the categories should be re-parented accordingly. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- The subcat titles would make that clear. Video games, novels, films, TV shows, etc. If the work in question was a non-fiction biography, it wouldn't be in any of those.
- And some of them already exist, like Category:Works about opioids. - jc37 05:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename to Category:Fiction about snipers, etc., per Jc37's observation. They can also be placed as subcategories of "Works about X" if existent. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:12, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:International Player Pathway Program participants
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:27, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:International Player Pathway Program participants to Category:International Player Pathway participants
- Nominator's rationale: Official name of the program is International Player Pathway. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 07:13, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, participation in a program is not a defining characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:39, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's tied to the article, so you should bring that up on AfD instead. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- No, the topic is presumably notable, but it is not a defining characteristic of the biography articles. Those are two very different things. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:11, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's tied to the article, so you should bring that up on AfD instead. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 16:01, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Any second for deleting? -- Beland (talk) 02:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: I am not seeing objections to renaming if kept.
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Category:Relations of Russia and its former colonies
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 14#Category:Relations of Russia and its former colonies
Category:Lists of events lists
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:28, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of events lists to Category:Lists of history lists
- Nominator's rationale: these are events in the very vague meaning of "anything that happened in history". This is follow-up on this earlier discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:04, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. "Event" is a very broad concept, while "history" is much narrower. There are lists of Category 1 tropical cyclones, lists of hat-tricks and lists of murders. Most of these were not events that changed the course of human history, except in the sense that in an unstable system the flap of a butterfly's wings may trigger a storm with huge consequences. A merge in the other direction could be considred, since Category:Lists of history lists has only a few rather arbitrary entries, but it includes Lists of dynasties, which are not lists of events. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:22, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- The events don't have to have changed the course of history per se, they just took place in history. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:08, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- A historical event is the sort of event that would be discussed in a history book. Many lists in Category:Lists of events lists do not meet that criterion, e.g. Lists of fatal shark attacks. Aymatth2 (talk) 13:22, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- I do not follow. Lists in Category:Lists of history lists do not have to be about "historical events" in order to be in this category. The category is simply for lists about things that happened in the past. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- An "event" is something that happened in the past, or perhaps something expected to happen in the future. A "historical event" is a type of event associated with history, typically human history, but sometimes the history of Earth, history of life or chronology of the universe.
- My birth was an event. Sadly, it was not a historical event: it will not be mentioned in any history book. Few if any of the events in the list of fatal shark attacks in the United States, lists of hat-tricks and lists of murders will be mentioned in any history book either.
- Some lists of events are history lists, but many are not. Some history lists are lists of events, but many are not. e.g. List of Jewish states and dynasties. Aymatth2 (talk) 03:14, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- For the sake of Wikipedia categorization the only thing that matters about your birth is that there is no Wikipedia article about you (presuming there isn't). All people who are notable become part of the history tree (births by century, occupation by century), regardless of whether they appear in a history book or in any other source. Likewise, all past events that are notable (and all events in the category are notable) are part of history, regardless of whether they appear in a history book or in any other source. With few exceptions we do not categorize content by type of source. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:32, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- I do not follow. Lists in Category:Lists of history lists do not have to be about "historical events" in order to be in this category. The category is simply for lists about things that happened in the past. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Category:Lists of events lists holds lists of lists of events: containers of containers. The lists in the lists of events itemize events. Many of these events are not notable, and have no article. Thus Lists of murders contains List of journalists killed in Guatemala, which has many entries for killings that are not notable in the Wikipedia sense. It is not a list of historical events even if we assume that all events recorded in Wikipedia are historical. Aymatth2 (talk) 14:11, 30 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:18, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge We've been cleaning up a lot of these events categories, and I agree with the nominator that all events in the past are history. There are no items in the category for future events. Regarding Aymatth2's comment, Wikipedia notability does not determine historical status. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:12, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:People from Africa (Roman province)
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to the "Roman Africa" names. Clear, unanimous support for a rename. No clear consensus on what the new name should be, so I am going with "Roman Africa" per WP:BARTENDER. It has some support from multiple people (P Aculeius and Marcocapelle), and is similar to "Roman North Africa". HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:23, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
Propose renaming
- Category:4th-century people of Africa (Roman province) (0) to Category:4th-century people of Roman North Africa
- Category:5th-century people of Africa (Roman province) (0) to Category:4th-century people of Roman North Africa
- Category:6th-century people of Africa (Roman province) (0) to Category:4th-century people of Roman North Africa
- Category:Saints from Roman Africa (province) (0) to Category:Saints from Roman North Africa ("From" is important here to differentiate from saints venerated in North Africa.)
Propose split of Category:People of Roman North Africa from Category:People from Africa (Roman province) (0).
Nominator's rationale: As previously discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 17#Category:3rd century in Africa (Roman province), there was no Roman province of Africa after about 300 CE. Most of the contents of these categories are after that date. I'm following the parent category's name of Category:Roman North Africa, although Roman Africa would be a viable option, akin to the Category:4th century in Roman Africa naming scheme. Daask (talk) 00:17, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment' What is being considered as "Africa" here? If it isn't the Roman province, then using the term "Roman Africa" could be construed to be anything on the continent of Africa, and not just the region of the province. Thus the proposed name is highly ambiguous. Roman Libya and Roman Africa also engender confusion, as Rome called the continent Libya (Ancient Libya]), and there was also provinces called Libya, and our article on Roman Africa is not the same scope as the categories being proposed to be renamed -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 00:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @65.92.246.77: Good question. I'll repeat the relevant remarks from the prior discussion:
- I was imagining Category:Roman North Africa as the parent category, and not using any political unit emic to the period, since these changed too frequently for categorization purposes. Daask (talk) 00:43, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- For reference, Diocese of Africa exists 314-439 CE, Praetorian prefecture of Africa exists 534–591 CE, Exarchate of Africa exists 591–698 CE. Daask (talk) 00:57, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- So, this would include Roman Egypt? In this case I think it would be better to call it "Roman North Africa", to dispense with terms that may be confused with entities that existed called "Africa" under Roman rule. -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:41, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alt rename using "Diocese of Africa" per article title Diocese of Africa. Note that Egypt has never been part of Africa during the Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:48, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename using "Roman Africa". It's as good a choice as "North Africa", since the Romans wouldn't have used that terminology, and readers who don't know that Egypt was never included in Roman Africa won't distinguish Egypt from "North Africa" either; thus there is no advantage to "North Africa". The alternative proposal, "Diocese of Africa", would be inaccurate for at least half the period covered, and add a potential layer of confusion due to the use of "Diocese" as an ecclesiastical designation. P Aculeius (talk) 12:32, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment We have to be clear what we mean here. Is it Roman people from Africa (including people from Egypt) or is it people from a specific place under Roman control?★Trekker (talk) 13:10, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- It would be very confusing to expand Roman Africa to Roman Egypt while Romans did not. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't believe anybody suggested doing so. "Roman Africa" doesn't normally include Egypt, though "North Africa" usually does, which is why "Roman North Africa" might be confusing. There's a simple way to address this, though it won't necessarily eliminate all mistakes: mention on the category page that "Roman Africa" excludes Egypt, which was a separate province at all periods of Roman history. That won't prevent editors from mistakenly including persons from Egypt, but it will provide guidance for anyone who checks the category first, and for pruning it when people are mistakenly included. P Aculeius (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Ok, then Roman Africa is clearly preferable over Roman North Africa indeed. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't believe anybody suggested doing so. "Roman Africa" doesn't normally include Egypt, though "North Africa" usually does, which is why "Roman North Africa" might be confusing. There's a simple way to address this, though it won't necessarily eliminate all mistakes: mention on the category page that "Roman Africa" excludes Egypt, which was a separate province at all periods of Roman history. That won't prevent editors from mistakenly including persons from Egypt, but it will provide guidance for anyone who checks the category first, and for pruning it when people are mistakenly included. P Aculeius (talk) 20:07, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- It would be very confusing to expand Roman Africa to Roman Egypt while Romans did not. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not seeing consensus on rename target, but clear consensus for a rename. I will also tag the categories.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 04:17, 26 March 2025 (UTC) - Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Still no clear consensus on rename target.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:04, 5 April 2025 (UTC) - Comment @Marcocapelle: I appreciate your interest in having our categories reflect Roman political structures. However, I think Roman political structures changed too much over the centuries for them to be usable in a X by century scheme. We could try for precise categories like Category:People of Libya Inferior (Roman province), but I'm not confident that we know precise dates and borders of all of these provinces, so I'm doubtful that would work either. Also, that would likely result in some very small categories that are poorly linked together. Besides Egypt, I don't think the land of Cyrenaica was ever part of a Roman polity by the name of "Africa". Other parts sometimes were joined in a unit named Africa and sometimes weren't. Also important to note is that the Exarchate of Africa included plenty of territory that was not on the continent of Africa. Contra P Aculeius, the conclusion of Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 July 17#Category:3rd century in Africa (Roman province) was support for my proposal of a scope including the entire continent of Africa, including Egypt, which continues to be my proposal here. I just don't see a better option. Daask (talk) 21:01, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 21#Category:Airstrikes by perpetrator
Campbell's Soup Company
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 20#Campbell's Soup Company
Category:Sport in Rotuma
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:06, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Sport in Rotuma to Category:Rotuma
- Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROW. Only 1 article. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when several more articles would fit. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Youth Olympic venues navigational boxes
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:06, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Youth Olympic venues navigational boxes (0) to Category:Youth Olympic Games navigational boxes and Category:Olympic venues navigational boxes
- Nominator's rationale: Merge in spirit of WP:C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:53, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Archery at the European Games navigational boxes
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:06, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Archery at the European Games navigational boxes (0) to Category:European Games navigational boxes and Category:Archery navigational boxes
- Nominator's rationale: Merge in spirit of WP:C2F. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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2015 European Games event navigational boxes
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. ✗plicit 13:28, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming and reparenting Category:2015 European Games event navigational boxes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2015 European Games sidebar templates
- Propose renaming and reparenting Category:2019 European Games event navigational boxes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2019 European Games sidebar templates
- Propose renaming and reparenting Category:2023 European Games event navigational boxes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) to Category:2023 European Games sidebar templates
- Nominator's rationale: Rename per actual content and reparent to Category:2015 European Games templates, etc. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Support Contents are sidebars, not navboxes. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:07, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Topps All-Star Rookie Rosters
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:06, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Topps All-Star Rookie Rosters to Category:Major League Baseball trophies and awards, Category:Topps, and Category:Rookie player awards
- Nominator's rationale: Triple merge; only two articles and unlikely to grow. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:59, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when several more articles would fit. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Luis Aparicio Award winners
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:05, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Delete per WP:OCAWARD. There are a lot of MLB/Baseball related awards but not all should have categories IMO. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:59, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:1st house of Courtenay
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. ✗plicit 13:26, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:1st house of Courtenay to Category:House of Courtenay
- Propose merging Category:Burial sites of the 1st house of Courtenay to Category:Burial sites of the House of Courtenay
- Nominator's rationale: Merge per nom. Being honest, I can't tell the distinction between the "1st" and the "House of Courtenay". As far as I can tell, its the same family/relation. Omnis Scientia (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2025 (UTC)
- It appears that Peter I of Courtenay established a different House of Courtenay, as a branch of the French royal family. The members are in Category:Capetian House of Courtenay. The original Courtenays moved to England at the time. It is likely, but not certain, that the two Polish people in Category:House of Courtenay actually belong in Category:Capetian House of Courtenay. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:15, 9 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete. This is a term invented by wikipedia and should therefore be eliminated as unverifiable and non-defining. It does not meet the requirements of Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorizing articles. Celia Homeford (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Deletion is certainly not an option because these people were of the same family. Either rename, with a more explicit disambiguator, or merge. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:11, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Tyla (South African singer)
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:40, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Tyla (South African singer) to Category:Tyla
- Nominator's rationale: I was going to submit a speedy rename request per C2D before realizing that this was requested 5 months ago but was opposed at Category talk:Tyla (South African singer) on the grounds of "Tyla" being too ambiguous. I disagree with this assertion because the main subject article has no disambiguation required and there is nothing at the non-existent Tyla cat. Considering no formal CfD was initiated from that original discussion, I am starting this now. People looking for a cat about Tyla would not be surprised to find articles only for the singer mononymously known as Tyla. Trailblazer101 (talk) 03:36, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support, all I can say is that I was the one who requested the move/rename 5 months ago. dxneo (talk) 04:03, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, too ambiguous. After renaming, people may well add articles of other Tylas to this category. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:57, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Even when Tyla is the primary topic of the singer predominantly known by this name? That's why Tyla (disambiguation) exists, and if any other Tylas from that DAB warranted a cat of their own, I'm pretty sure they would be properly disambiguated. That logic just does not add up to me. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:08, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- People can add articles to categories without looking at the main article or even without looking at the category page, so disambiguators are more important for categories than for articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose, but reasonably, most editors would likely do their due diligence first. We cannot and should not preemptively take inaction just because some people could assume something that is incorrect. I find it hard to believe someone would genuinely want to add this cat thinking it would be for anyone with this name. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:54, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Saying people might add other articles to the cat is not really valid reason, because there are lots of Chris Browns and we do not see that happening. Beside, we will keep our eyes on the cat to make sure that simple mistake does not happen. dxneo (talk) 23:22, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- I suppose, but reasonably, most editors would likely do their due diligence first. We cannot and should not preemptively take inaction just because some people could assume something that is incorrect. I find it hard to believe someone would genuinely want to add this cat thinking it would be for anyone with this name. Trailblazer101 (talk) 22:54, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- People can add articles to categories without looking at the main article or even without looking at the category page, so disambiguators are more important for categories than for articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:23, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Even when Tyla is the primary topic of the singer predominantly known by this name? That's why Tyla (disambiguation) exists, and if any other Tylas from that DAB warranted a cat of their own, I'm pretty sure they would be properly disambiguated. That logic just does not add up to me. Trailblazer101 (talk) 05:08, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Opoose per Marcocapelle. –Aidan721 (talk) 19:48, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename We don't use unnecessary disambiguators unless there is a category for another topic named Tyla, and we do not. This also applies to all the subcategories. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:38, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of days
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Lists of observances. Consensus for a merge; and I am WP:BARTENDERing this to the option with majority support. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of days to Category:Lists of observances
- Nominator's rationale: merge, largely overlapping scope. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:05, 23 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:27, 24 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge both to Category:Lists of holidays and observances. - I said this in a separate nom, but I think the whole Holidays and Observances trees should probably be merged, and if so, this seems the best target name. - jc37 21:39, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- It seems that you want to deprecate "holidays" in cayegory names at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_30#Category:Holidays, so we should keep the target where it is. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:43, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that's not my intent there. (And hopefully, not what I said there?) Both words are necessary, but not as separate, overlapping categories. - jc37 23:25, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hmm... maybe they should be, but until a larger discussion is had on, I think the nomination, as is, is fine. –Aidan721 (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- It seems that you want to deprecate "holidays" in cayegory names at Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_30#Category:Holidays, so we should keep the target where it is. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:43, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Lists of observances. Comments on the double merger would be appreciated :)
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Category:High school honor societies
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:High school honor societies to Category:Secondary school honor societies
- Nominator's rationale: Agreement at Wikipedia:WikiProject Fraternities and Sororities see
Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fraternities_and_Sororities#Another_Higher_Honor_Society_Level_and_rearrangement? Naraht (talk) 17:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- That looks like pretty clear consensus. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename: The proposed change is more inclusive and combines several categories that include a small number of articles. Rublamb (talk) 07:25, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:People from Halmstad by occupation
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:People from Halmstad by occupation to Category:People from Halmstad
- Propose merging Category:People from Norrköping by occupation to Category:People from Norrköping
- Propose merging Category:People from Örebro by occupation to Category:People from Örebro
- Nominator's rationale: Layer not needed. Kaffet i halsen (talk) 17:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:04, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nominator.Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:28, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Dams in Samoa
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:03, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Hydroelectric power stations in Samoa (0) to Category:Hydroelectric power stations in Oceania and Category:Power stations in Samoa
- Propose merging Category:Dams in Samoa (0) to Category:Dams in Oceania, Category:Buildings and structures in Samoa, and Category:Water in Samoa
- Propose deleting Category:Hydroelectricity in Samoa (0)
- Propose deleting Category:Renewable energy power stations in Samoa (0)
- Propose deleting Category:Renewable energy in Samoa (0)
- Nominator's rationale: Only 1 article (and a redirect to that same article). Not useful for navigation. WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:28, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:05, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of Indiian people by state or union territory
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- The result of the discussion was: speedy rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 17:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Lists of Indiian people by state or union territory to Category:Lists of Indian people by state or union territory
- Nominator's rationale: Typo in "Indian" SerChevalerie (talk) 17:08, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- This could've been listed at speedy. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:29, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Sorry, wasn't aware. Thought I'd follow this procedure. Shall I close this and list at Speedy now? SerChevalerie (talk) 17:31, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Lists of companies of Samoa
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:59, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Lists of companies of Samoa (0) to Category:Lists of organisations based in Samoa
- Nominator's rationale: WP:NARROW. Only 1 article, which is already in subcategories of the other parent categories. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:01, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge for now, without objection to recreate the category when several more articles would fit. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:07, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Lists of synagogues in British Overseas Territories
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 13#Category:Lists of synagogues in British Overseas Territories
9th century BC in Italy
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. There was no consensus on how to categorize pre–Italian Republic items for things that happened within its present-day boundaries. However, the tree contains only one article, the Etruscan civilization, so WP:OCYEAR applies. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:59, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose deleting Category:9th century BC in Italy (0)
- Propose deleting Category:9th-century BC establishments in Italy (0)
- Nominator's rationale: The Etruscan civilization existed prior to the existence of Italy. While it was on the Italian peninsula, Italy was not a country at this time. The article is already in Category:States and territories established in the 9th century BC, so merging is not needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:16, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:14, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Side note, I think the article rather belongs in Category:9th-century BC establishments. The Etruscan League is the closest resemblence to a state but this emerged much later. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment all the "in Italy" categories before the reunification should instead be called "on the Italian peninsula" and thus split off "on Sardinia", "on Sicily", "on Corsica" -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:45, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- I agree with that, but then the Po basin and Italian Alps have to be split too, except in Roman Italy. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:19, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus on how centuries prior to modern Italy should be categorized.
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- Oppose Italy existed for millenia before its unification, and will probably still exist way past the demise of the Italian Republic. Dimadick (talk) 08:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Dimadick's comment?
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- The Italian peninsula existed long before. But that is not a country, and as noted above it does not coincide with the current country Italy at all. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Premature events
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:02, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: From Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2025_March_15#Events_by_chronology: a combination of unrelated topics with similar names. Most existing contents are on medical conditions, and should be moved to other categories such as Category:Pediatrics. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 16:29, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose These are not at all just combined due to "similar names".17:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)★Trekker (talk)
- Delete per nom. WP:SHAREDNAME. –Aidan721 (talk) 17:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Weak support, it is borderline sharedname, in any case I can't imagine anyone being interested in e.g. Premature ejaculation and Premature heart beat at the same time. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:15, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Canadian federal deputy ministers
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. ✗plicit 13:25, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Canadian federal deputy ministers to Category:Canadian deputy ministers
- Nominator's rationale: Similarly, I don't see why this distinction for "federal" is needed or defining. SMasonGarrison 21:01, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- They serve different governments. It's like saying that there shouldn't be separate categories for American federal senators and state senators. Atchom (talk) 23:49, 16 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Keep per Atchom. This is part of the schism of provincial and federal levels for the broader Category:Government in Canada and Category:Government of Canada. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
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Footballers by populated place in England by county
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:55, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Bedfordshire to Category:Footballers from Bedfordshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Berkshire to Category:Footballers from Berkshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Buckinghamshire to Category:Footballers from Buckinghamshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Cambridgeshire to Category:Footballers from Cambridgeshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Cheshire to Category:Footballers from Cheshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in County Durham to Category:Footballers from County Durham and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Cumbria to Category:Footballers from Cumbria and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Derbyshire to Category:Footballers from Derbyshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Devon to Category:Footballers from Devon and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Dorset to Category:Footballers from Dorset and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in the East Riding of Yorkshire to Category:Footballers from the East Riding of Yorkshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in East Sussex to Category:Footballers from East Sussex and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Essex to Category:Footballers from Essex and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Gloucestershire to Category:Footballers from Gloucestershire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Greater Manchester to Category:Footballers from Greater Manchester and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Hampshire to Category:Footballers from Hampshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Herefordshire to Category:Footballers from Herefordshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Hertfordshire to Category:Footballers from Hertfordshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Kent to Category:Footballers from Kent and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Lancashire to Category:Footballers from Lancashire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Leicestershire to Category:Footballers from Leicestershire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Lincolnshire to Category:Footballers from Lincolnshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Merseyside to Category:Footballers from Merseyside and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Norfolk to Category:Footballers from Norfolk and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in North Yorkshire to Category:Footballers from North Yorkshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Northamptonshire to Category:Footballers from Northamptonshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Northumberland to Category:Footballers from Northumberland and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Nottinghamshire to Category:Footballers from Nottinghamshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Oxfordshire to Category:Footballers from Oxfordshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Shropshire to Category:Footballers from Shropshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Somerset to Category:Footballers from Somerset and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in South Yorkshire to Category:Footballers from South Yorkshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Staffordshire to Category:Footballers from Staffordshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Suffolk to Category:Footballers from Suffolk and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Surrey to Category:Footballers from Surrey and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Tyne and Wear to Category:Footballers from Tyne and Wear and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Warwickshire to Category:Footballers from Warwickshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in the West Midlands (county) to Category:Footballers from the West Midlands (county) and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in West Sussex to Category:Footballers from West Sussex and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in West Yorkshire to Category:Footballers from West Yorkshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Wiltshire to Category:Footballers from Wiltshire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose merging Category:Footballers by populated place in Worcestershire to Category:Footballers from Worcestershire and Category:English footballers by populated place
- Propose deleting Category:Footballers by populated place in England by county
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layers. The nominated categories are the only subcategory of the county parent (e.g. Category:Footballers from Bedfordshire). Not useful to have a "by populated place" container category in county category. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:21, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Omnis Scientia (talk) 18:54, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge as nominated.14GTR (talk) 16:06, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Sportspeople educated at St Bede's College, Manchester
Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 April 20#Sportspeople educated at St Bede's College, Manchester
Category:Deer and moose in popular culture
- Propose splitting Category:Deer and moose in popular culture to Category:Deer in popular culture and Category:Moose in popular culture
- Nominator's rationale: They are part of the same family, but otherwise rather different and each have their own main category. There is no apparent reason to combine the two into a single category. This would also apply to any combined subcategories, or if the ensuing category would be too small, the contents would be upmerged. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:07, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Split per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:09, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Split per nom. Dimadick (talk) 10:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose - Cervidae redirects to Deer. Besides, this is similar to Category:Mice and rats in popular culture.
I wouldn't oppose a rename to Category:Cervidae in popular culture, similar to Category:Mustelidae in popular culture.- jc37 22:24, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Struck, per my comments below. - jc37 16:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)- Well, cervidae probably should not redirect to deer. List of cervids is a better target. Merriam-Webster says that it encompasses more than just typical deer. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Cervidae redirects to Deer because it's the WP:COMMONNAME, according to this move discussion and several discussions that follow soon after. I believe renaming to Category:Cervidae in popular culture is a much better move. It could even be moved to Category:Deer in popular culture. Moose are, after all, the heaviest species of deer. Reconrabbit 14:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly, I think I'd prefer the current name. These are often Anthropomorphic characters, merely with features based upon real-life creatures. So I don't think we should be categorising by the latin, unless me "need" to. And if we rename to deer, some well-meaning editor will just create a moose category, and we'll be back here with a merge discussion. Let's just leave it as-is. I think it works well, especially for the non-scientific reader who just wants to find Bullwinkle and Bambi. - jc37 16:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- I could definitely see that happening (moose in popular culture being created after the fact). It would probably be a subcategory of deer, which would lead to more subcategorization with very few members. I got a little stuck in "the category is being discussed, so we should do something with it". I'll endorse keeping it the same; I imagine Category:Mustelidae in popular culture mainly exists because there's no convenient common name for this mammal family. Reconrabbit 23:46, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Honestly, I think I'd prefer the current name. These are often Anthropomorphic characters, merely with features based upon real-life creatures. So I don't think we should be categorising by the latin, unless me "need" to. And if we rename to deer, some well-meaning editor will just create a moose category, and we'll be back here with a merge discussion. Let's just leave it as-is. I think it works well, especially for the non-scientific reader who just wants to find Bullwinkle and Bambi. - jc37 16:10, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Cervidae redirects to Deer because it's the WP:COMMONNAME, according to this move discussion and several discussions that follow soon after. I believe renaming to Category:Cervidae in popular culture is a much better move. It could even be moved to Category:Deer in popular culture. Moose are, after all, the heaviest species of deer. Reconrabbit 14:29, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Well, cervidae probably should not redirect to deer. List of cervids is a better target. Merriam-Webster says that it encompasses more than just typical deer. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:55, 27 March 2025 (UTC)
- Split per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:23, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Split Category:Moose in popular culture should be a subcategory of Category:Deer in popular culture, as the moose is in the deer family. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 13:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Don't split, no objection to a rename to Category:Deer in popular culture. I find Jc37's articulation, that fictional works may not distinguish between deer and moose, more convincing. * Pppery * it has begun... 19:55, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
Category:American economists by populated place
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:46, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose splitting Category:American economists by populated place to Category:Economists by populated place and Category:American economists
- Nominator's rationale: duel upmerge for now. only one category in here SMasonGarrison 13:34, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. We recently upmerged economists from New York, should do the same with other cities. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:25, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:4th millennium
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Category:Philosophers of love
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Category:Parthian Empire in fiction
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:54, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Parthian Empire in fiction to Category:Roman–Parthian Wars
- Nominator's rationale: merge for now, only one article in the category, this is not helpful for navigation. The article just happens to be about the Roman–Parthian Wars, hence the merge target. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:08, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Argentina in fiction by city
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Argentina in fiction by city to Category:Works set in Argentina
- Nominator's rationale: merge per actual content, it is all about works. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:41, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Agree, it makes sense. Thanks! --Fadesga (talk) 16:29, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Films based on children's literature
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: delete, redundant category layer with only one subcategory. Merging is not needed, the subcategory is already in all relevant trees. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:32, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Masked actors
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:42, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: "Iconic role" seems completely subjective. Non-defining as actors take on new roles all the time. Bloody boogers (talk) 01:56, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, if anything it is defining for the character, not for the actor. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:30, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category. If there are no further comments, we are all set to process the nomination :)
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Category:Canadian socialists of Ukrainian descent
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- The result of the discussion was: merge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:05, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Canadian socialists of Ukrainian descent to Category:Canadian people of Ukrainian descent
- Nominator's rationale: Triple intersection of nationality, descent, and political identity. User:Namiba 17:31, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Crossing descent with political orientation is not a good idea. Place Clichy (talk) 21:01, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge, trivial intersection between descent and political orientation. Marcocapelle (talk) 00:55, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment shouldn't these also merge into Category:Canadian socialists ? -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- It would not harm to check that manually. A number of articles are already in the tree of a political party though. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:57, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The IP appears to suggest a manual merge; is that the best way forward?
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- Merge per nom, very niche and not very notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Easternsahara (talk • contribs) 02:22, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Creature actors
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. The list of pages at time of closing is here, in case anyone wishes to listify. (non-admin closure) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 08:25, 14 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Random and subjective category. Bloody boogers (talk) 11:21, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:PREFCAT and WP:SUBJECTIVECAT, seems to categorize actors for playing non-human-like characters although the description is unclear. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 20:57, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: I'll tag the category. If there are no further comments we are all set to process the nomination :)
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- Delete per above. That said, listify "somewhere", if wanted. Some actors are notable only (or mostly) for playng creatures. - jc37 19:54, 7 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Interactive narrative
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- The result of the discussion was: no consensus to delete; no consensus to do CFD-endorsed purging. As always, editors are permitted to make individual edits to pages if they feel doing so would improve Wikipedia, including removing categories. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 22:23, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This is a weird category that apparently mostly contains chatbots out of all things. Even though I know that's what this category is trying to do, this does not look like a "category for games or books where the plot is determined by the user." at all! QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:06, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Would it be a solution to just purge chatbots? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:00, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I don't believe in you. When excluding all the, um, chatbots; I realized that it has many of the pages that Category:Interactive fiction does. While interactive narrative may be a different thing from interactive fiction, somehow; I do not think you're going to try to keep this category, especially because it is not defining for all these chatbots because nobody notes the chatbots for having something to do with whatever "interactive narrative" is. Also this thing called Online Caroline, whatever that is, does not even belong to Interaction fiction (not narrative because we would move it) either. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 23:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose It does appear to exist as a legitimate encyclopedic topic. Unless you can prove that it is not defining somehow, it is a viable category. Interactive storytelling may need to be modified or moved to encompass more than just digital. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:32, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- I will not oppose deletion, but if kept the category should be heavily purged. For example Customer service also does not belong here. In the end the category may contain only a few articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:00, 21 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Purge?
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- Delete, and category redirect to Category:Interactive fiction. Per the above, if purged, this would just become wp:overlapcat. - jc37 14:01, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Canons of Sandomierz
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- The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Canons of Sandomierz and merge Category:Clergy from Sandomierz to Category:People from Sandomierz. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:52, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
Propose merging Category:Canons of Sandomierz (6) to Category:People from Sandomierz- Propose
deletingmerging Category:Clergy from Sandomierz (0) to Category:People from Sandomierz - Propose deleting Category:People from Sandomierz by occupation (0)
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant category layers. WP:NARROW. –Aidan721 (talk) 16:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
Merge/delete per nom.Marcocapelle (talk) 17:04, 20 March 2025 (UTC)- I just populated it Marcelus (talk) 18:05, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- In that case, I'll amend to keep Category:Canons of Sandomierz and merge Category:Clergy from Sandomierz to Category:People from Sandomierz. –Aidan721 (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- I just populated it Marcelus (talk) 18:05, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Thoughts on the updated nomination?
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- Support amended nomination. The intermediate categories are still redundant. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Former forts
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- The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:57, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: This is an underpopulated category that, if populated (after a lot of work), would be huge and unwieldy, even if the (in fact ambiguous) qualifier "completely demolished" is kept. I suggest populating "Military installations closed in [year or appropriate time frame]" as sufficient, or an alternative, as the case may be. btw I think the subcategory "Former star forts" is distinctive enough for keeping, though each should be cross-categorized in "Military installations closed in [year or appropriate time frame]". Doprendek (talk) 21:24, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete, forts are hardly ever still in use as such. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:21, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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- Rename to Category:Destroyed forts? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 17:04, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename?
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- Not all forts im this category have clearly been destroyed. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:55, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Then why not purge and then rename? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:37, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. –Aidan721 (talk) 15:23, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Plant characters
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- The result of the discussion was: split. between Category:Fictional plants and Category:Anthropomorphic plants. Clear consensus for a change; this had plurality support (and was not that different from a simple merge to Category:Fictional plants). HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:55, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge Category:Plant characters into Category:Anthropomorphic plants
- Reason: These categories both seem to cover the exact same concept of anthropomorphized plant characters as far as I can see. I think most of us can agree that one of them is redundant to the other. AHI-3000 (talk) 18:53, 10 March 2025 (UTC)
Merge or reverse merge per nom.Marcocapelle (talk) 20:36, 10 March 2025 (UTC)- Reverse merge plant characters need not be anthropomorphic, they could just be static -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 23:53, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: No consensus on merge direction
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- IP is right, but that means there is a distinction after all, so merging is not necessary per se. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:14, 20 March 2025 (UTC)
- Split to Category:Fictional plants and Category:Anthropomorphic plants (which is a subcat of Category:Fictional anthropomorphic characters). Any that are not anthropomorphic, are presumably just plants. - jc37 20:55, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Split? I will tag Category:Anthropomorphic plants to allow for a reverse merge.
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- Jc37 is probably right. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:F0 and F1 tornadoes
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Category:Kadokawa Dwango
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging: Category:Kadokawa Dwango to Category:Kadokawa Corporation
- Nominator's rationale: As of 2019, the company has simply rebranded back to Kadokawa.VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 15:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:Kadokawa Dwango; if there are no further comments we are all set to merge :)
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Template:Guangzhou-geo-stub
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- The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:36, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: There are only three transclusions, none of which link to mainspace articles. OpalYosutebito (talk) 17:59, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; created in 2012 and never used, apparently. Her Pegship (?) 21:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Your Pegship this one was db-author'd in 2012, then recreated by yourself in 2023! Redirect to {{Guangzhou-stub}}? – Fayenatic London 23:08, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- (slaps self with trout) Oy vey. Yes, that sounds reasonable. Her Pegship (?) 02:00, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Delete per nom; created in 2012 and never used, apparently. Her Pegship (?) 21:47, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Keep after all; I have given it 2 parent categories, and used it on several pages. – Fayenatic London 17:55, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Fayenatic London's most recent comment?
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- Keep template now has 60 transclusions, enough for a category of its own which if this discussion is closed keep I will propose at WP:WSS/P. Waacstats (talk) 19:53, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Kadokawa Daiei Studio films
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- The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:34, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming: Category:Kadokawa Daiei Studio films to Category:Kadokawa films
Nominator's rationale: The films produced and/or distributed by Kadokawa as a whole are currently credited simply under the Kadokawa name, the Kadokawa Daiei Studio company mainly controls the studio facilities for Kadokawa's film and TV production divisions. VenezuelanSpongeBobFan2004 (talk) 01:36, 18 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag the category. If there are no further comments in a week, we are all set to rename.
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Category:Slavery of Native Americans
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Category:Barbadian jazz musicians by instrument
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- The result of the discussion was: merge both. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:58, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Barbadian jazz musicians by instrument to Category:Barbadian jazz musicians
- Nominator's rationale: Upmerge for now. redundant category layer SMasonGarrison 00:22, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Dual merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:59, 17 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge Additionally, the subcategory should be merged to Category:Barbadian trumpeters. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:21, 3 April 2025 (UTC)
- Tagged, if someone would like to relist this. Note that that cat is currently the only member of the nominated category. I think we just need to make sure that the 2 articles in question are categorised in the appropriate parents/grandparents. - jc37 20:13, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also merge Category:Barbadian jazz trumpeters?
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- Support merging the subcat too, it has only two members. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Video games with tile-based graphics
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- The result of the discussion was: delete in its current form. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: Months ago, I removed all pages from Category:Tile-based video games even though the two categories clearly were meant to have two distinct purposes, not the same. Consider using the Wayback Machine to see what I removed from Category:Tile-based video games, and what used to be in this category (tile based vg category was supposed to be for video games that simulate the table games of the same type, I think) Also, I kind of hard to understand what exactly you mean by "Tile-based graphics". IN FACT this category's looks like a mess of different things that are not related. Anyway, the whole tile-based games thing isn't really defining in the end because it could refer to so many different things, wouldn't Plants vs. Zombies count as one? Nothing special. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment it should be about the graphics back-end and not the visual appearance of the game (ie. Scrabble). How the visuals are composited together should be the defining characteristic. (though I suppose someone could interpret that to include texture maps, etc, or tiling mesh maps, which it isn't) -- 65.92.246.77 (talk) 03:41, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Tile-based video game is mostly about graphics, which would imply merging Category:Tile-based video games to it, but it is in a deletable state due to lack of references and being almost entirely WP:OR. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:25, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Alternatively, you should just restore all of the original categories (tile-based and ...with tile-based graphics) on individual pages, and view old captures of the categories on the wayback machine in order to see what had been removed from these categories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
- QuantumFoam66 - please don't ask other editors to go find things off-wiki, without a direct link. Please either re-populate the category, or list here what was removed. - jc37 21:36, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Not seeing objections to deletion. If you do object, please speak up :)
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- Delete, looks like a trivial characteristic. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- If this was still the pre-Windows95 era, I might disagree with you. Tile-based games were a very clear sub-type of video games. But at this point - especially since modern enthusiastic editors seem to have this confused with tile games of other kinds - I suppose this could probably be a list. But since an article already exists, I think we're fine there.
- So anyway, to be clear for the closer, I would "prefer" to see this repopulated/pruned, and probably renamed for clarity, but in reality, WP:TNT is probably more appropriate here, so not opposing deletion. - jc37 20:15, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- People! I am not asking for categories to be deleted or for its purpose to be changed in anyway, I am going to restore all of the original pages in both categories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 21:51, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
- I've already re-populated both categories with the pages they had originally before any of my edits related to both categories. Also Category:Tile-based video games is an almost completely different concept from Category:Video games with tile-based graphics because the other category (the one I mentioned first) is for video games similar to a tile-based game such as dominos, not for games with "Tile-based graphics" which I can see not everyone has the same interpretation for. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:07, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:20th-century Alaska Natives
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- The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 21:59, 19 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:20th-century Alaska Natives to Category:20th-century Alaska Native people
- Propose renaming Category:21st-century Alaska Natives to Category:21st-century Alaska Native people
- Nominator's rationale: my instinct was speedy via parent is Alaska Native people; but 21st-century Native Americans is the other parent SMasonGarrison 04:07, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename We name categories by ethnicity or nationality as "X people", and the Native American ones should be renamed as well. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Rename, the current name (hypothetically) should be used for topic articles, the proposed name should be used to contain biographies. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Legendary birds
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- The result of the discussion was: keep Category:Legendary birds; merge Category:Mythological birds to Category:Birds in mythology. Clear consensus for a change, so I am going with the "least change" option per WP:BARTENDER. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:30, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Legendary birds to Category:Mythological birds
- Nominator's rationale: These two categories nest into each other, but have no clear distinction. Mythological is more inline with other similar categories such as Category:Mythological mammals. But there are other categories that confuse the Legendary/Mythical distinction. There are a lot of other similar examples, but I'm not very experienced with this and wanted to start small. RaidRexx (talk) 22:34, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- The way I understand it is that mythological refers to an (extinct) religion. There is Greek mythology, Germanic mythology, Indian mythology, all revolving around deities and spirits and their interaction witb human people. Legendary is non-religious. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:51, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- Based on my most preliminary amateur research, the broadest term would be Folklore as both Myth and Legend pages list them as genres of folklore. Related to your statement the wikis for myth and legend say:
- --Myths consist primarily of narratives that play a fundamental role in a society, often endorsed by religious and secular authorities.
- --Legends consist of a narrative featuring human actions, believed or perceived to have taken place in human history, distinguished from myths in that they concern human beings as the main characters and do not necessarily have supernatural origins, and sometimes in that they have some sort of historical basis whereas myths generally do not.
- Ultimately I don't think the distinction between these three would serve any practical purpose for the sake of categories as its such a blurry undefined line and maintaining clean distinctions between the two would be too tedious. I feel like the most concise option would Folkloric birds, but that's not as common a term as myth or legend. The most inclusive and easily understood would by Mythological, legendary, and folkloric birds, but that becomes too wordy and unwieldly. Finally Category: Birds in mythology is a separate even broader scope category, and wouldn't serve the same purpose the current categories. RaidRexx (talk) 00:06, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- See also this discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:23, 26 February 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: The discussion linked by Marcocapelle was closed as "rename to Category:Mythological corvids".
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- I agree (unfortunately) that Mythological, legendary, and folkloric birds is an option. It would be better to have a simpler term that encompasses all of those, which also leaves open the creation of three subcategories if there was ever a need for any of them. Mythological could be ok, but some might think we were saying that legends and folklore are subsumed in myth, which they're not. This problem must come up in several areas, including the one Marcocapelle linked to, so a consistent solution would be good. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:07, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support merging either way, however I'm personally not sure whether "Legendary" or "Mythological" would be better for the final category name. Also, something should be done about the Legendary/Mythological mammals categories too. AHI-3000 (talk) 02:01, 22 March 2025 (UTC)
Oppose- Instead of writing the same paragraphs (again) about the issues concerning creatures of fiction, folklore, legend, and myth, I'll just say that I think we should probably have an overall discussion about legendary and mythological creatures (and persons and entities). I think this is a case where doing piecemeal noms doesn't work. - jc37 22:38, 27 March 2025 (UTC)- I see where you're coming from. There should probably be a discussion about folkloric/legendary/mythological characters and creatures as a whole, and consolidating all of these redundant subcategories together. AHI-3000 (talk) 17:40, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Comment Since this has been open so long, and both categories have apparently been tagged, here's what I would support: Keep Category:Legendary birds, and Merge Category:Mythological birds to Category:Birds in mythology. I would not oppose Merging both to Category:Legendary birds in mythology. Whatever the result, I think pruning may be appropriate. I still think we should talk about the trees, but I guess we can start here. Please relist to see if we can find a consensus. - jc37 20:26, 4 April 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's most recent suggestion?
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- @Jc37: Category:Mythological birds is a set category while Category:Birds in mythology is a topic category. Are you sure you want to merge them? Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. Looking at the contents of each, and the parents of each, yes. Seems pretty obvious overlapcat. And perhaps I'm missing something in the topic vs. set dynamic, but isn't "<plural noun> in <noun>" usually a set category? Like Villages in Poland? - jc37 06:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ok. I am not going to oppose this, the split between topic articles and set articles is often useful but in this case they may go together as well. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:00, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. Looking at the contents of each, and the parents of each, yes. Seems pretty obvious overlapcat. And perhaps I'm missing something in the topic vs. set dynamic, but isn't "<plural noun> in <noun>" usually a set category? Like Villages in Poland? - jc37 06:42, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:17th-century German etchers
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- The result of the discussion was: merge to Category:Xth-century etchers, Category:Xth-century German engravers, and Category:German etchers. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:54, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:17th-century German etchers to Category:German etchers and Category:17th-century German artists
- Propose merging Category:16th-century German etchers to Category:German etchers and Category:16th-century German artists
- Propose merging Category:21st-century German etchers to Category:German etchers
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category. Upmerge for now SMasonGarrison 00:48, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. The last one can simply be deleted though, because Hans-Jürgen Schlieker is already in the 20th-century category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:45, 11 March 2025 (UTC)
- In fact the former two should be merged to Category:Etchers from the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:01, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose, should be merged to the corresponding "engraver" categories as the artists in them are usually described as engravers anyway, and it's more logical to put them together. We don't have a category for 16th century German engravers yet, but creating and populating one should be easy (Dürer, but also Barthel Beham, Georg Pencz, Theodor de Bry, Jacob Binck, Frans Hogenberg, Cristoforo Coriolano, Georg Wechter, ...) I'll try to do some work on these tomorrow, but please don't do the suggested upmerges. Fram (talk) 20:55, 12 March 2025 (UTC)
- Commment Shouldn't Category:17th-century etchers, etc. be a target as well? –Aidan721 (talk) 14:40, 15 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Responses to Fram's and Aidan's points?
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- Also merge to Category:17th-century etchers, etc., per Aidan. Merge to Category:17th-century German engravers instead of Category:17th-century German artists, etc., per Fram. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Additional merge targets are fine with me. SMasonGarrison 18:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Indian film critics associations
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- The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:32, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose upmerging Category:Indian film critics associations to Category:Film organisations in India and Category:Film critics associations
- Propose upmerging Category:British film critics associations to Category:Film critics associations and Category:Film organisations in the United Kingdom
- Nominator's rationale: underpopulated categories, that I couldn't populate SMasonGarrison 03:45, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:16, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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People of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:People of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, Category:Buddhists of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, and Category:Clergy of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, respectively. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 19:49, 20 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose keeping Category:People of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Propose renaming Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhists to Category:Buddhists of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Propose renaming Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy to Category:Buddhist clergy of Azuchi–Momoyama-period Japan
- Nominator's rationale: MOS:SUFFIXDASH says "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen". That guideline therefore requires two dashes in the adjective "Azuchi–Momoyama–period". But IMHO the parent looks fine with a dash and a hyphen. We have a precedent to vary SUFFIXDASH for categories where "-related lists" follows a compound name, see Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2021_March_20#MOS:SUFFIXDASH_moves. I think we should follow that precedent for categories ending "-period Japan", i.e. keep the hyphen rather than use a dash there. – Fayenatic London 12:43, 25 February 2025 (UTC)
- A notice of this discussion has been posted at WT:MOS#SUFFIXDASH and categories. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose changing 2&3, and 1 is wrong - I think the nominator has made an error. While it is true that MOS tells us "Instead of a hyphen, use an en dash when applying a prefix or suffix to a compound that itself includes a space, dash or hyphen", it does not apply to categories. That same subsection also tells us "the principle is not extended when compounding other words in category names, e.g., Category:Tennis-related lists and Category:Table tennis-related lists both use hyphens." MOS also tells us that "The form of category names follows the corresponding main articles." So category names should always correspond to main articles, and then follow normal English rules. Based on MOS the "Azuchi–Momoyama period" is what we should be using per WikiMOS and precedent. Categories are not handled the same as standard prose. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:41, 27 February 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): Sorry, I don't understand. If 1 is wrong, what do you think it should be – Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period people? Having a space before "period" would not match siblings for people of other eras within its parent Category:Japanese people by period. You seem to be opposing all hyphens before "period" in category names. To take a shorter example, "Edo period" is a noun, but within the phrase "Edo-period Japan" the words "Edo-period" are hyphenated because they are a compound adjective. That is a normal English rule. So Category:Edo period has no hyphen, as "Edo" is the adjective specifying the period; but in Category:Edo-period sites, "Edo-period" is the compound adjective specifying the sites. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Fayenatic london: Per our own MOS, categories match our articles. The article is Azuchi–Momoyama period so why are we adding a hyphen at all? Are you saying that more precisely defining it by adding Japan we have to add a hyphen? That period is only in Japan. If anything it would be be "Azuchi–Momoyama period, Japan"... or "Azuchi–Momoyama period in Japan." Perhaps even more appropriately "Japanese Azuchi–Momoyama period." But I didn't write the Wiki MOS on this situation. It says categories follow the article title. And when I search with Google I find this and this and this where no one hyphens "period". We have several of these category errors that get fixed from time to time. I see them and usually ignore them as not being worth the bother of change... sort of if it aint broke don't fix it. But here we have someone trying to change things from good to bad it seems to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- @Fyunck(click): Sorry, I don't understand. If 1 is wrong, what do you think it should be – Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period people? Having a space before "period" would not match siblings for people of other eras within its parent Category:Japanese people by period. You seem to be opposing all hyphens before "period" in category names. To take a shorter example, "Edo period" is a noun, but within the phrase "Edo-period Japan" the words "Edo-period" are hyphenated because they are a compound adjective. That is a normal English rule. So Category:Edo period has no hyphen, as "Edo" is the adjective specifying the period; but in Category:Edo-period sites, "Edo-period" is the compound adjective specifying the sites. – Fayenatic London 22:08, 3 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agree with both. The category name as it stands deserves a dash, this is a plain grammar issue. Fyunck is arguing for a different format of the name, which is very reasonable too, but that would apply to the whole category tree. So I think the latter should be dealt with in a separate group nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- It's clear from Fyunck(click)'s examples that they do not understand the point about compound adjectives, because their examples are for the period as a noun not an adjective, e.g. "The Azuchi-Momoyama Period in Japan".
- Perhaps it would be better to sidestep this issue of hyphen or dash before "period" by using a different naming format. Unfortunately about 20 siblings just went through as Speedy renames using the format I proposed above.
- British siblings in Category:British people by period use e.g. Category:People of the Tudor period, not "people of Tudor-period England/Britain". Chinese siblings in Category:People by Imperial Chinese dynasty use e.g. Category:Han dynasty people, which under MOS:HYPHEN should be "Han-dynasty people", but I do not favour that. "People of Han-dynasty China" would be OK by me, but perhaps we don't need the China in the name, in which case "People of the Han dynasty" (cf. Category:People of ancient Egypt by dynasty).
- So where I'm going is a relist, renaming these to Category:People of the Azuchi–Momoyama period and Category:Buddhists of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, along with other eras/periods in Japan. – Fayenatic London 13:05, 4 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Fayenatic london's most recent suggestion?
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- The alternative renaming proposal is perfectly alright with me. I assume the siblings will be nominated later for a likewise rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:05, 6 March 2025 (UTC)
- Agreed. Starting from here, these are the "obvious" category names to use, given the name of the Azuchi–Momoyama period article. --Northernhenge (talk) 10:28, 14 March 2025 (UTC)
- Which set of names? The new ones? –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:36, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per Fayenatic london's proposal, least grammatically awkward. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 02:37, 19 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will ping previous participants to see if they are okay with FL's proposal. Thoughts on what to do with Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy would be appreciated.
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- @Fyunck(click): Thoughts on FL's proposal? @Marcocapelle, Fayenatic london, Northernhenge, and LaundryPizza03: Thoughts on what to do about Category:Azuchi–Momoyama period Buddhist clergy? HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 03:47, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- The latter to be renamed to Category:Clergy of the Azuchi–Momoyama period, consistent with the two others. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I’m not near my main computer at the moment. Quickly, while I still feel I’m correct in my assessment, I’m fine with FLs proposal. Fyunck(click) (talk) 07:11, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- I support FL's proposal and Macrocapelle's Category:Clergy of the Azuchi–Momoyama period. --Northernhenge (talk) 22:43, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Hebrew-language names
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- The result of the discussion was: implement Altenmann's plan. Subcategories like Category:Modern names of Hebrew origin may be discussed in a follow-up nomination. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 00:17, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Nominator's rationale: It looks like there is something multiwrong with this category.
- It has subcategories for given names and surnames, at the same time itself contains both names and surnames. I guess, it must be diffused and labelled accirdingly. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- It has subcategory category:Hebrew names of Jewish holy days - but it appears that its items such as Rosh Hashanah, etc. are not about the names but about the holidays themselves. I cannot tell about Hebrew language, but in English there is a clear distinction between an object and its name (and I recently learned the fancy term Onomatodoxy meaning that God and its name are the same :-) Therefore I think this category must be deleted. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- It has a fishy subcat Category:Lilith. I cannot nail precisely down what is wrong here, I guess the same as with a tentative subcat Category:Igor of Category:Slavic-language names, no? --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Subcat category:Modern names of Hebrew origin. It has no explanation what must be placed there. I guess Eve (name) is OK (or not?), but how come Ezekiel (name) is modern? Suggestion: define and cleanup --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Done with subcats.
- Now, it contains items Pardes Rimonim, Reshit Chochmah and the likes. Again, these about the books, not its names. By this logic I can put my recent articles Lehakat HaNahal, Hayu Zmanim and Zivan Aviad-Beer into here: the pretty much look like Hebrew-language names to me, although the "beer" part looks suspicious:-), but I have Tirtza Atar instead. --Altenmann >talk 23:47, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- As a matter of contraposition, if someone wanted to make a separate article, Etymology of the name Tel-Aviv, just like a beaouutiful one, "Etymology of California", complete with Category:Etymology of California (!), then surely it would belong here. --Altenmann >talk 00:14, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Final suggestion: What's in a Name?
- I guess this category and its nontrivial subcats must have clear descriptions. I understand nobody will read them when placing Zohar into it along with Zohar (name), but not Zohar (band). But it will be handy for a wikignome with a mop to clean it. --Altenmann >talk 23:54, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support. Articles about Hebrew-language names are of course ok to have in this category, but articles about any other Jewish topics are not. The fact that an article or subcategory has a Hebrew-language name is not relevant. We are categorizing content, not page names. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:22, 29 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Which of the options should we go with?
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- @HouseBlaster: I understood this to be one option with different components. @Altenmann: courtesy ping to nominator. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:20, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ah. If that is the case, ping me and I'll close it with consensus to do all of the above. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:22, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: are you going to close and "do all the above", or...? --Altenmann >talk 06:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Seen, will respond when I am more awake :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:47, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- For example, I have no slightest idea what the heck are category:Modern names of Hebrew origin. @SomeBodyAnyBody05: - creator hello? --Altenmann >talk 06:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- A proposal for deleting this subcategory altogether (if that is the idea) should be listed explicitly, and perhaps in a different nomination. I haven't commented on that one. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:08, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle: I didn't make any suggestion about it, because I do not know what it is. Perhaps it is to separate them from Biblical Hebrew names. I pinged the creator. --Altenmann >talk 16:37, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, this is the creator of the subcategory here, elaborating on the purpose of the category, It can differentiate the names with heavy biblical prominence with the ones that have continued and popular usage in Modern times, say the last 2 centuries. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 22:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- There are a lot of biblical names among them so I don't think this is a meaningful distinction. (But again let's leave this for a separate discussion.) Marcocapelle (talk) 10:56, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
- Hey, this is the creator of the subcategory here, elaborating on the purpose of the category, It can differentiate the names with heavy biblical prominence with the ones that have continued and popular usage in Modern times, say the last 2 centuries. ₛₒₘₑBₒdyₐₙyBₒdy₀₅ (talk) 22:02, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- @HouseBlaster: are you going to close and "do all the above", or...? --Altenmann >talk 06:46, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- Ah. If that is the case, ping me and I'll close it with consensus to do all of the above. Best, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 06:22, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Memorials to Rosa Parks
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- The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. The content that needs to be purged can be picked out at WP:CFDWM. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:31, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Memorials to Rosa Parks to Category:Monuments and memorials to Rosa Parks
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to American women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:01, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Kokborok-language film stubs
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- The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:24, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Kokborok-language film stubs to Category:Indian film stubs
- Nominator's rationale: There are only two articles in this category - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 01:29, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Just delete (and delete template too), the articles are already in Category:Indian film stubs. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:25, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete? I will tag the template.
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- Sounds alright to me. I was initially considering merging, but so far your reasoning has somewhat changed my mind... - OpalYosutebito 『talk』 『articles I want to eat』 03:13, 5 April 2025 (UTC)
- delete only four articles and a couple of them are at least only borderline stubs. Waacstats (talk) 19:58, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
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Category:Memorials to Harriet Tubman
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- The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. Whether anything needs to be purged is irrelevant to the actual discussion, and can be handled at WP:CFDWM. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:28, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Memorials to Harriet Tubman to Category:Monuments and memorials to Harriet Tubman
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to American women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:02, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Memorials to Diana, Princess of Wales
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- The result of the discussion was: rename and purge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 12:20, 13 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Memorials to Diana, Princess of Wales to Category:Monuments and memorials to Diana, Princess of Wales
- Nominator's rationale: For consistency with Category:Monuments and memorials by person and Category:Monuments and memorials to British women --Another Believer (Talk) 03:05, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- At least purge the category, removing everything that is named after, but not commemmorating, the subject. No objection to renaming. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Māori and Pacific Island scientists
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- The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:New Zealand Māori scientists and purge. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 01:03, 21 April 2025 (UTC)
- Propose renaming Category:Māori and Pacific Island scientists to Category:New Zealand Māori scientists
- Nominator's rationale: I think that this should be renamed per c2c New Zealand Māori people by occupation, but I'm not sure that it's clear cut. SMasonGarrison 01:23, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:44, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Oppose. Even if restricted purely to New Zealand this would exclude Pasifika scientists such as Dianne Sika-Paotonu (who should probably be in this category as originally named) and for whom it would not make sense to split off a separate category. The better fix is to broaden the parent category and its hierarchy. —David Eppstein (talk) 07:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- We never put two different ethnic groups in one category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein How would you suggest we split the category? SMasonGarrison 13:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- There should be a Category:Pasifika New Zealanders, the article Pasifika New Zealanders mentions several people fitting. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Is it really two entirely different ethnic groups? "Pacific islander" can mostly mean Polynesian, and Maori are a subgroup of Polynesians. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:09, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Polynesian is a higher level. We always have ethnic categories at the lowest level, as far as I am aware of. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- In this context they are two different ethnic groups, see Pasifika New Zealanders. Traumnovelle (talk) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Polynesian is a higher level. We always have ethnic categories at the lowest level, as far as I am aware of. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- @David Eppstein How would you suggest we split the category? SMasonGarrison 13:19, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- We never put two different ethnic groups in one category. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:40, 25 March 2025 (UTC)
- Support renaming/splitting this category. The parent category is only for Maori and these are two separate ethnic identities, bundling them together is odd and not something we do. A new category can be created for those without Maori ancestry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Traumnovelle (talk • contribs) 02:40, 28 March 2025 (UTC)
- Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Split? Something else?
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- HouseBlaster if the category is renamed those of Pacific Island descent (without Maori ancestry) would have to be removed from the category. So rename versus splitting doesn't make much of a difference. Traumnovelle (talk) 21:12, 16 April 2025 (UTC)
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