Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 February 21

February 21

Military units and formations established in YYYY

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: merge/delete. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:04, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No need to diffuse by year before the 16th century. Not useful for navigation. WP:OCYEAR/WP:NARROW. The articles are already in "YYYY establishments in Foo" categories so no additional merging is needed. –Aidan721 (talk) 13:58, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Eurovision Song Contest by country templates

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:02, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Eurovision Song Contest by country templates to Category:Countries in the Eurovision Song Contest templates
Nominator's rationale: Original name appears to have been worded in order to match other template categories with similar names; however linguistically it appears to be poorly worded. Suggesting a rename to make it sound more natural in English., and to match the structure of the templates being categorised. Sims2aholic8 (talk) 10:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from Yorba Linda, California, by occupation

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The result of the discussion was: merge. (non-admin closure) –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Subcategory with just one entry. Lost in Quebec (talk) 09:52, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Also propose merging

All subcategories with three or less entries.Lost in Quebec (talk) 10:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:Wikipedia categories named after countries

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The result of the discussion was: Delete * Pppery * it has begun... 17:54, 1 April 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The eponymous categories for countries are all placed in this "Wikipedia" category, but this cat is a direct member of Category:countries anyway, so it's not as if this method removes the eponymous cats from the main category tree or so. In which case there is no need to place a navel-gazing category in the middle of a regular category tree.

No need to merge though, every country category is already a member of the Category:Countries via the Category:Countries by continent branch as well. So deletion will suffice here. Fram (talk) 09:19, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia categories named after associated states (6 C)
Wikipedia categories named after colonies (190 C)
Wikipedia categories named after dependent territories (65 C)
Wikipedia categories named after dynasties (711 C)
Wikipedia categories named after empires (106 C)
Wikipedia categories named after former countries (706 C)
Wikipedia categories named after states with limited recognition (10 C)
– Fayenatic London 09:22, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Tarnowski (Rola)

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 04:03, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: delete, contains only one article, which is not helpful for navigation. If not deleted, rename to Category:Tarnowski (Rola) family or Category:Tarnowski family (Rola) per WP:C2C as per speedy nomination by User:Mike Selinker. Marcocapelle (talk) 09:17, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Internet television streaming services

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) it's lio! | talk | work 06:11, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Both have the same target topic of streaming content over the internet. Greatder (talk) 08:45, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bearcat agree with the proposal of subcategorizing as appropriate. There is too much overlap in the current situation. Greatder (talk) 15:11, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Beginnings by decade 1-1499

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The result of the discussion was: merge and manually move articles. See full discussion for instructions. it's lio! | talk | work 06:18, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose merging Category:0s beginnings (2 C) to Category:0s
  • Propose merging Category:10s beginnings (2 C) to Category:10s
  • Propose merging Category:20s beginnings (2 C) to Category:20s
  • Propose merging Category:30s beginnings (2 C) to Category:30s
  • Propose merging Category:40s beginnings (2 C) to Category:40s
  • Propose merging Category:50s beginnings (2 C) to Category:50s
  • Propose merging Category:60s beginnings (2 C) to Category:60s
  • Propose merging Category:70s beginnings (2 C) to Category:70s
  • Propose merging Category:80s beginnings (2 C) to Category:80s
  • Propose merging Category:90s beginnings (2 C) to Category:90s
  • Propose merging Category:100s beginnings (2 C) to Category:100s
  • Propose merging Category:110s beginnings (2 C) to Category:110s
  • Propose merging Category:120s beginnings (2 C) to Category:120s
  • Propose merging Category:130s beginnings (2 C) to Category:130s
more categories nominated
example of a partial manual merge
more categories nominated
Nominator's rationale: merge, and manually move articles, at least up to the year 1500 this is a redundant category layer, with very few exceptions there are only two subcategories (births and establishments). This is follow-up on this earlier discussion.
Note to closer: the previous discussion also contains instructions on how to implement the merge properly.
@Aidan721, LaundryPizza03, Fayenatic london, and Liz: pinging contributors to previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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House categories

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The result of the discussion was: keep. (non-admin closure) it's lio! | talk | work 06:40, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: We've been renaming categories in the category:Families tree to always have "family" or the equivalent in their names. One of these equivalents is "House of," which many categories in this tree have. Each of these is a House category and should have "House of" appended to the front, and any overwriting of redirects needed. The slight exception is House van de Werve's category, for which "van de" serves the purpose of the word "of." Mike Selinker (talk) 08:30, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Presidential travels of Donald Trump

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Lists of presidential trips made by Donald Trump. Articles that are not lists need to be purged, and parallel categories also need to be renamed and purged. -- Beland (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC) Beland (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Presidential travels of Donald Trump to Category:Presidential visits of Donald Trump
Nominator's rationale: I think that this category needs to be renamed to match the parent United States presidential visits, and possibly purged. SMasonGarrison 03:39, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on jc37's suggestion?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sports plays

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The result of the discussion was: rename to Category:Sports moments. Beland (talk) 01:05, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Sports plays to Category:Sports incidents
Nominator's rationale: This category does not contain Plays (theatrical dramas) but notable incidents in games of sport, and seems to be a North American usage. The subcats Category:Historic baseball plays and National Football League plays may be appropriate as local WP:ENGVAR, but this parent should use a name that will be understood more widely. – Fayenatic London 11:49, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on splitting?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:36, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deputy governors of Nigeria

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The result of the discussion was: merge as nominated. ✗plicit 04:13, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplicate of the target category. This should be merged such that it redirects to the target as well, I guess that is the status-quo. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:09, 13 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Marcocapelle's comment about "of" vs. "in"? Thoughts on the direction of the merge?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:30, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Burn survivors

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 March 2#Category:Burn survivors

Conflicts in early years

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The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) it's lio! | talk | work 06:46, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Not useful for navigation. The category tree is not fully established until the year 1000. Merge to the decade-level per WP:NARROW/WP:OCYEAR. –Aidan721 (talk) 00:25, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Object. I don't see the benefit in reducing the level of detail here. More conflicts exist on other Wikipedias, at least for the 900s. The 107, 680 and 893 look a bit lonely but still, there is lot of history for the first millenium too. Pointless proposal. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:40, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Polish–Veletian War is the only article in the 963-966 categories and 1 of 2 in 967. That is in no way useful for navigation. Categorizing by decade is more than sufficient for the 1st millennium and before. –Aidan721 (talk) 02:04, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge, this merely makes it very difficult to navigate to related articles. Note that all decade and year categories of the 10th century together contain less than 200 entries so diffusion by decade rather than by year makes perfect sense. Even not diffusing the century by decade at all would be no problem. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:22, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. Decade categories are often better than years for conflicts, as many wars, sieges and campaigns took place over more than one calendar year. The end of a millennium is a sensible cut-off for small categories. – Fayenatic London 21:48, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose This does not help navigation at all, it merely makes it more difficult. Dimadick (talk) 16:12, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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