Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 5

January 5

Category:100 Books for Schoolchildren

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: delete. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: I created this category and started populating it, but it came to my mind to check with the community whether it satisfies our rules of categorization. --Altenmann >talk 21:54, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:TOPTEN. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:People from the Holy Roman Empire by subdivision

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The result of the discussion was: rename (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:00, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename, although the Holy Roman Empire also had another type of subdivision, namely Imperial circles, the subcategories here are all by state. Also re-parent the category to Category:States of the Holy Roman Empire. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:47, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Support renaming (but oppose merging). I'm fine with renaming it to something. I'm assuming you meant to propose renaming to People from the Holy Roman Empire by state. My goal was to help make the parent category navigable. JPL had just dumped all of these states into the parent category.SMasonGarrison 21:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:IShowSpeed

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The result of the discussion was: delete (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:00, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This category should definitely be deleted. There is one single article in this category, and it is overall not quite notable of a topic to warrant a category to itself. ClovisBarnhopper (talk) 21:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Deputy prime ministers of Liechtenstein

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:46, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: To be in-line with Category:Heads of government of Liechtenstein. TheBritinator (talk) 17:08, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Liechtenstein government councillors

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The result of the discussion was: meanwhile already deleted (non-admin closure) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary duplicate of Category:Government ministers of Liechtenstein TheBritinator (talk) 16:57, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Unattested languages of the Americas

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:10, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Unhelpful for navigation when there are only two categories (North and South America) SMasonGarrison 15:45, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Ancient or ancient

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The result of the discussion was: rename as nominated. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
copy of discussion at CFDS
  • What exactly is your problem, sir? The vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt). Also, "Museums of Ancient Near East" categories are missing the definite article regardless of your preferences ("Museums of the Ancient Near East" or "Museums of the ancient Near East").--Russian Rocky (talk) 21:49, 15 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm fine with adding "the" - it's "ancient" that needs discussion. If it it is true that "the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" (the same goes for the articles/categories about ancient Rome, ancient Greece and ancient Egypt)" this is only because of recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus. Johnbod (talk) 04:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • So why don't you discuss it on Talk:Ancient Near East instead? To begin with, there is not enough people in CFDs to discuss this matter. Also, what "capitalization fanatics" are you talking about? Are you aware that "Ancient Near East" was changed to "ancient Near East" in 2011 (Talk:Ancient Near East#Capitalization)? Here's an excerpt: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"." Since 2011, nobody has talked about capitalization on Talk:Ancient Near East.
Except Category:Novels set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Films set in the Ancient Near East, Category:Sculpture of the Ancient Near East, other categories with no definite article should be renamed in any case. I suggest to stick to "ancient Near East" at first because it's more widespread inspite of your claim about "a handful of capitalization fanatics" (you provided no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and is under discussion). Personally, I don't care whether it is "ancient Near East" or "Ancient Near East", but the current consensus is apparently the former and let's stick to it.--Russian Rocky (talk) 20:38, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most category and article page names do use lowercase "ancient" in phrases like "ancient Rome" and "ancient Greece" (excluding language designations). See usage throughout the Ancient Rome page, Social class in ancient Rome, Patrician (ancient Rome), Timeline of ancient Greece, Category:Wikipedians interested in ancient Rome, Category:Novels set in ancient Rome, Category:Prosopography of ancient Rome, Category:Wars involving ancient Greece, Category:Battles involving ancient Greece, Category:Culture of ancient Greece, and Category:History books about ancient Greece for examples. I believe we should aim for consistency in article and category names. Many of these pages and categories have had these names for quite some time and were not moved recently. If you would like to use uppercase in phrases like "Ancient Greece", why not propose this at the talk pages of the main pages? WikiEditor50 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, please. Unfortunately, I can't figure out myself what Johnbod's problem is. He claimed that the vast majority of Wikipedia articles related to the ancient Near East use "ancient Near East" because of "recent campaigns by a handful of capitalization fanatics, acting without discussion or consensus", but there is no evidence that "ancient Near East" is controversial and/or is under discussion. I agree with InverseHypercube on Talk:Ancient Near East who said the following: "According to The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (p. 153), "Ancient" should not be capitalized, not in "ancient Near East" nor in "ancient Near Eastern"."
  • See The SBL Handbook of Style For Ancient Near Eastern, Biblical, and Early Christian Studies (Appendix A: Capitalization and Spelling Examples) at the Internet Archive: p. 153: "ancient Near East (noun)" "ancient Near Eastern (adj.)".--Russian Rocky (talk) 08:32, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: rename per precedent. These nominations were opposed at speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:24, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:10th-century churches in Russia

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 15#Category:10th-century churches in Russia

Shortening of MPBL category names

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:47, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League awards to Category:Category:MPBL awards
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League most valuable player awards to Category:Category:MPBL most valuable player awards
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League divisions to Category:Category:MPBL divisions
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League Finals to Category:Category:MPBL finals
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League lists to Category:Category:MPBL lists
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players to Category:Category:MPBL players
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League players by club to Category:Category:MPBL players by club
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League playoffs to Category:Category:MPBL playoffs
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League rivalries to Category:Category:MPBL rivalries
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League seasons to Category:Category:MPBL seasons
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League seasons by team to Category:Category:MPBL seasons by team
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League teams to Category:Category:MPBL teams
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League former teams to Category:Category:MPBL former teams
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League templates to Category:Category:MPBL templates
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League champions navigational boxes to Category:Category:MPBL champions navigational boxes
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League roster templates to Category:Category:MPBL roster templates
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League roster navigational boxes to Category:Category:MPBL roster navigational boxes
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League season by team templates to Category:Category:MPBL season by team templates
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League statistics templates to Category:Category:MPBL statistics templates
  • Propose renaming Category:Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League team templates to Category:Category:MPBL team templates
Nominator's rationale: All articles related to the Maharlika Pilipinas Basketball League use the abbreviation "MPBL". Also, the league's name in full might be too long for categories. MarcusAbacus (talk) 06:53, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Defunct cable television channels in Canada

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Local terminology Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:46, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Cable television channels in Canada

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:48, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Local terminology Mvcg66b3r (talk) 03:44, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Ships built in Kirkland, Washington

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The result of the discussion was: merge (non-admin closure). –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 01:11, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:SYNTH
The only thing in this category is Category:Ships built at Lake Washington Shipyard and none of the 48 ships in that subcategory were built in Kirkland. Rather, they were built at the Lake Washington Shipyard which was in unincorporated King County with the official location listed as "Houghton" on the ship registries. That company quit building new ships around 1945, Houghton was incorporated as a city in 1948, and Houghton merged into Kirkland in 1968. Parent Category:History of Kirkland, Washington more accurately describes the location. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:35, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Actors of European descent in Indian films

Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2025 January 15#Category:Actors of European descent in Indian films


Category:Evans family (Paramount Pictures)

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The result of the discussion was: rename. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 05:49, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: This seems too specific, as most of these people are not directly involved with Paramount except by family connection to Robert Evans. Mike Selinker (talk) 01:04, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Rename per precedent about show-business families. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 23:06, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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