Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2007 October 4/Images

Images

PD-UA images
  • Image:Ukraine_radiation_branch.gif (history · last edit) from [20]. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:12, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image:Ukraine_VDV_branch.gif (history · last edit) from [21]. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image:Ukr_admiral.gif (history · last edit) from [22]. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image:Ukr_viceadmiral.gif (history · last edit) from [23]. Videmus Omnia Talk 04:14, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: all of the images above are PD per Ukrainian copyright law as explained in the tag. Reprimand user for creating work for others due to excessive zeal and carelessness. --Irpen 04:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Unfortunately those images were not made by the Ukrainian government, but by http://www.uniforminsignia.net, which claims copyright on all images on its site. We'll have to make or obtain free images, I'm afraid. Videmus Omnia Talk 12:33, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
      • Exact reproduction of an image does not generate a valid copyright claim. --Irpen 14:34, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
        • Do you know that they are an exact reproduction as opposed to an artist's drawing? If they downloaded the images from a government website and slapped a copyright tag on them, that statement is meaningless. But if they made an MS Paint drawing based on sitting there and looking at the actual emblem itself, that drawing is copyrightable. --B 21:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
          • They do not claim that this is any artistic representation built upon the insignia. They claim that this is the picture of the insignia itself. Their arranging it together making a valuable resource may be copyrightable similarly to the copyright of the published book-collection of PD-artistic work. But the coyright of the image is not transferred to whoever publishes it as long as nothing new and original is produced. The collection may be original. The images are not. --Irpen 23:10, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
            • I don't think I'm being clear. If you take something like Image:Bermuda Regiment Cap Badge.jpg or Image:Unami Lodge Flap.jpg and do a 2-d line art representation of it, no matter how closely it resembles the original, you have created something. It is not merely a slavish copy. If they took a physical 3-d pin or patch and created a drawing from that, that's something copyrightable. On the other hand, if they merely downloaded images from a government website, that's not. Since we don't know one way or the other, we can't presume it to be PD. --B 01:06, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have redrawn the Ukrainian admiral shoulderboard images into SVG, so we can get rid of those. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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