Yes, there are a lot of phone numbers and links to outside pages (all public domain government websites), but as a government agency we want to get information to folks looking for it.
This page has been repeatedly reverted to the intial page someone created. The initial page is chock full of incorrect info.
Any help on this matter would greatly be appreciated.
I've removed it yet again. None of this content is appropriate for an encyclopedia, it belongs on your website. Wikipedia is not a directory, we do not have lists of telephone numbers and webpages. Since you are obviously connected to the SC DNR, I suggest you read our conflict of interest guidelines--Jac16888Talk19:06, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
Need my text description for the article titled Enchanted Fairytale Parties and Enchanted Fairytale Parties LLC. Both were created 12/27/11 and were deleted speedy deletion. How can I get access to the text? 04:54, 30 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.228.234.137 (talk)
Short answer is: you can't. You are not the creator of the article, and if you were, (User:Enchantedfp) as a blocked user, you might find your IP address also being shortly blocked for block evasion. If Enchantedfp wishes to continue editing, they should please consider making an unblock request per the instructions at User talk:Enchantedfp. FYI, both articles were deleted as blatant advertising - I have reviewed the deleted material and the deletions and the subsequent user block were procedurally correct. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:08, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
hi if someone posts onto a talk page and then someone else says something, on there or somewhere else, and then the first person goes back and changes what they originally said, is that against policy or is it neutral or is it encouraged? thanks. Bouket (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
i was more bothered by this [3] because i said that the original comment was not helpful and then you changed it to look like you were more helpful. Bouket (talk) 22:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
No. It doesn't matter. If an admin disrupted wikipedia by materially changing their comment, the correct thing to do if discussion isn't fruitful is to take the issue to ANI. Toddst1 (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Have you read the talk page guidelines? Do you think that the edits in question didn't comply with the guidelines? If the answer to both questions is 'yes' then let us know what the edit was, and why you consider it was incorrect. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:16, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
(e/c) Oh dear. Look, all this is in the guidelines. Like Toddst1 says, "who done it" makes no difference at all. "Why they done it" can make all the difference. A constructive, helpful change is, um, constructive and helpful. No big deal. So I'm not too sure what the problem here is. Could you be more specific? Haploidavey (talk) 22:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Sheesh. That's a problem? Bouket, if this horse ever had life, it seems well dead now, and needs nothing more than decent decay. Let if pass on, please do. Haploidavey (talk) 22:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
sorry i just wanted to know policy but then toddsp1 kept making more changes to my talk page and also joined this conversation so i thought i had to mention it now since he wouldnt leave me alone we can stop now Bouket (talk) 22:34, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
sorry i guess you missed by update above, i was more bothered by this [4] because i said that the original comment was not helpful and then you changed it to look like you were more helpful. Bouket (talk) 22:09, 3 January 2012 (UTC)Bouket (talk) 22:23, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
I'm not seeing anything in the examples so far that have anything particularly wrong with them, even if they're technical violations of some guideline (I dunno if they are). Best advice at this point for Mr Bouket would be to get on with your life and don't make a mountain out of a mole hill. Яehevkor✉22:27, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thats what i wanted to do but toddsp1 kept making more changes to my talk page so every time i went to some other page i got a new orange box. i thought i was done with the whole thing and wasnt going to bring it up until he kept editing it. ill forget it since its not important i just wanted to know what policies were about it Bouket (talk) 22:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
the reason i didnt like it was because it looks like he did it afterwards so his comments wouldnt look bad. he knows i already know what hes talking about because i had to figure it out so changing his comments afterwards is not helpful and it just makes it look like he was more helpful than he was. sorry if this seems whiny or something. Bouket (talk) 22:32, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Your talk page is read by more than just you. It is a permanent record and often things are put there for more than just your benefit as was in the case here. Toddst1 (talk) 22:33, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
yes but the change makes it seem like you were a lot more helpful than you were. so its historically inaccurate. Bouket (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
Bouket, this page here is the wrong forum for your dispute (please read the instructions on the page top), and continuing to post here will not make things better. Please take some of the advice that some of our most experienced administrators have posted to your talk page, and if it's still not clear you will certainly understand WP:BOOMERANG. The vast majority of your edits appear to be complaints about other editors and admins - please remember that our only goal here is to build an encyclopedia, and that it's probably better to leave some aspects of the work here to editors who have have been around a lot longer. Do consider concentrating for a while on building articles; there is plenty of help available, and if you have any questions, you are most welcome to ask me on my talk page. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:39, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
hi kudpung. if this page is the wrong forum for this then why are you continuing to discuss it here, and not in some more appropriate forum? also the discussion was done and i thought it was over until you updated this AND notified me of this on my talk page which means i should respond right? i asked a simple question here and its only because toddsp1 decided to bring the dispute to this page that it continued here at all. i also dont like your accusation that the majority of my edits are complains about other editors. according to [5] more than half of my edits are to articles. only in the past few days have i even gone into this area of wikipedia where users seem to interact more. the same cant be said of you [6], so if youre going to tell someone to build articles, maybe it should be someone who has less article edits percentage than you? im sorry but your response seems to ill-enformed and inflammatory that i had to respond to it. please let this all stop now. i am going to copy this to your talk page please respond there since as you say this is not the appropriate place for this discussion. Bouket (talk) 02:30, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I have a question that I've posted regarding Walt Disney's Fun-to-Read Library. I've posted the question in its talk page. Basically, I'm torn between providing separate articles for each book in the series, or whether a Template:Book list is sufficient. Any advice? -- φ OnePt618Talk φ 19:49, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
THe individual books clearly lack any notability, they fail WP:NBOOK. It is likely that that appklies to the series as well. I see nothing in the list to assert any sort of notability. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:10, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
User talk:76.204.148.47 From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search [edit] January 2009 Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Raphael Lemkin, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. FaceVC3 (talk) 22:49, 16 January 2009 (UTC) The recent edit you made to Raphael Lemkin constitutes vandalism, and has been reverted. Please do not continue to vandalize pages; use the sandbox for testing. Thank you. Catgut (talk) 22:55, 16 January 2009 (UTC) ________________________________________ I just started receiving a message above Wikipedia articles that I consult. This message is dated January 2009. It states that this writer (self or husband) posted an edit which constituted vandalism. I looked up the subject in question and found that part (or all) of the edit included the use of the word "f*cking". Neither of us use this type of language, nor have we posted any edits to any of your articles. It disturbs me to wonder where this information came from, and whether something worse may occur in the future. By the way, my husband recently made a donation to your fund drive. Could there be a connection? Also, no one else ever has access to our computers, and we don't use AOL. I have the impression that anyone could hit me with this sort of accusation, perhaps someone who doesn't like me in my personal life? Sorry I don't have hours right now to go through all the relevant material. Further, I can't engage in a dispute with some unknown person! I think we deserve an explanation for this case of mistaken identity. Our reputations are valuable, and we don't appreciate being accused of this kind of behavior! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.148.47 (talk) 22:41, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
The edit in question was indeed made by your IP in 2009, but as you say, it probably wasn't done by you, so don't worry about it. If you have only just received the notification (I admit I don't really know how IP message notification works) then you may have just been the first people to use that IP since then. You should keep in mind that IP addresses don't usually belong to users but the ISPs they use or the institutions they access the internet from. It's likely you're on a dynamic IP internet connection so you are [regularity] reassigned addresses. It's just in this case the IP had previously been used for vandalism - that message was meant for them rather than you. Яehevkor✉22:58, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Additionally, the best way to avoid messages like this is the future is to create an account, even if you don't plan to edit. When you're signed on, you won't receive messages intended for other people who have used your IP address. DangerHigh voltage!23:20, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
I am trying to edit the article Aziz Shavershian in a manner that is objective and more fitting for an encyclopedia article, rather than the current fan boy-ish, one-sided article that it is.
There is a lot of evidence that suggests that Aziz abused steroids, which I feel is necessary to note, given that the main reason people idolized him was because he looked so muscular. However, the page keeps getting reverted by user:MelbourneStar, back to a previous, highly subjective edit.
I am not saying whether he did or didn't do steroids. I'm only saying that there is evidence that suggested it, which user:MelbourneStar vehemently refuses to admit.
I request that a block be placed on MelbourneStar for this article.
Can an editor please take a look at the complaintants edits on the article, see how they are worded. Esp. The death section, which has leade to my revert(s). Also, please take a look at the user's talk page, prior latest blanking. P.S., I'm off, will discuss tommorow morning. Thank you, -- MST☆R(Happy New Year!)15:54, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia has policies in place to protect living and recently deceased people from improperly sourced negative claims. MelbourneStar is acting to enforce those policies. The material you have added is partly improperly sourced. Zzyzzcentral.com is not a reliable source for Wikipedia's purposes because it does not have editorial oversight. The fact that it appears in the article already is not an argument for its reliability. Also, you should not add your own commentary and analysis to articles, like "there is a multitude of evidence that suggests..." and similar.
Zoolon, making threats such as you did with If you continue arguing with the facts I will have you banned. My roomate is an administrator on Wikipedia is not the way we do things here. I strongly suggest that you read up on some our policies here before continuing to edit the encyclopedia, and if you don't understand them - ask your 'room mate'. Here's a start: WP:CIVIL, and WP:BOOMERANG. Happy new year to you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Is this what editors are supposed to say about new users?
I began the conversation by sending a nice, random note to an intelligent person. As you can see via the history, I said "You have an interesting background and I am learning patience from you." My daughter is interested in science and I saw the impressive credentials of this editor.
The immediate retort was to speedily delete request all my pages. Weird!!
I am thoroughly depressed and will not use Wikipedia again. It was a terrible experience and I am very sad about this person.
Donnabalancia has been a member of this site since mid 2008. She is most definitely not a "new user". She came unannounced to my talk page with this cryptic message and then for some odd reason gave me a New Years message. When I investigated her edits, I discovered that she created several articles that are not worthy for inclusion on this project, and I went out and took care of them as I see fit.—Ryulong (竜龙) 08:05, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
{E/c}I could be mistaken, but I believe this is exactly the kind of case I was referring to on Jimbo's talk page earlier this evening. (See my three comments there.) It seems to be a very inexperienced user who three times in the past wrote what we consider spam but she considers worthy business articles. No one caught those other articles so she had no way of knowing they weren't acceptable. Check out her contribs. Now she does it again in good faith and--SNAP!--Bite the newbie! She is obviously who she says she is. Why not cut her some slack, explain the rules, and reread her posts as being from an ingenuous, well-intentioned newbie. Yopienso (talk) 08:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Please read my previous posting. sorry about no signature and I am not a "troll" as called by Rylong -- I am someone who is going to disconnect from Wikipedia permanently. Thanks
I was just trying to be a nice friendly person on the last day of the year. While I have been a Wikipedia person for a while, I have not been exposed to true editing and issues like these ever before. I am appalled by this. My "cryptic" message was an attempt to be friendly to another Florida person. I was just outreaching for friendship. Will go elsewhere, it was a dumb idea to make friends with anyone here!
Thank you, Editor Yopienso, I appreciate that you understood I was coming from a good place. I did not know I was supposed to receive some kind of invite to a person's talk page to post a greeting or a friendly comment. That is probably what started all of this. Then when I did post something nice, the speedy deletion requests really confused me. I thought I was actually fine with the articles that had been up for so long without any action. It is not the reaction I expected as we enter a happy and healthy new year. I am very sad about this and particularly about being referenced as someone who lives under a bridge...(?) I see that on my welcome page there are notes that were added a little while ago on how to proceed on a how to post an article. I will not be contributing again. But thanks for this:
{E/c}I could be mistaken, but I believe this is exactly the kind of case I was referring to on Jimbo's talk page earlier this evening. (See my three comments there.) It seems to be a very inexperienced user who three times in the past wrote what we consider spam but she considers worthy business articles. No one caught those other articles so she had no way of knowing they weren't acceptable. Check out her contribs. Now she does it again in good faith and--SNAP!--Bite the newbie! She is obviously who she says she is. Why not cut her some slack, explain the rules, and reread her posts as being from an ingenuous, well-intentioned newbie. Yopienso (talk) 08:23, 31 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnabalancia (talk • contribs)
You're welcome, and please hang around! Friendly editors have helped me through many misunderstandings; they will help you, too. I've taken the liberty of backspacing your quote to get rid of that box, and of downsizing the font since the message is posted just above. Happy New Year! Yopienso (talk) 08:54, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
I ignored the questionable actions of a strange user who doesn't know anything about the site, and discovered two crappy articles and one she blanked herself that wasn't very good to begin with. I don't care what happens to her, because she is violating one of our core policies by writing about things she is directly involved with.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
And as far as I am aware this is not something that is relevant to this board. And I am sorry if I was suspicious of this person, because frankly I've pissed off some number of people offsite and god only knows who this one person might be who came out of nowhere to my talk page.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Bed tax requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content. If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. —Ryulong (竜龙) 09:33, 31 December 2011 (UTC) Listen to me. Stop making pages. You do not know our internal rules and the more you break them the more I lose my patience in dealing with you.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnabalancia (talk • contribs)
Stop making new sections every time you want to complain about me. You are acting wrong, and I am trying to fix things.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:55, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. —Ryulong (竜龙) 07:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC) You have added this information only after I asked for an editor's intervention. I do not appreciate what you called me.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnabalancia (talk • contribs) I'm not here to hold your hand. These articles are not appropriate for Wikipedia.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:30, 31 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Donnabalancia (talk • contribs)
I'm not even going to waste my time investigating this. Donna and Ryulong either sort out your differences on your talk pages with some seasonal goodwill, one of you read the policies, and the other don't bite noobs, OK? Or go to the WP:DR forum, but not here. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:16, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
It need not be investigated, and she is not a newb. She's just simply someone who's been here for 3 years and has no idea how anything is supposed to work, particularly this page when she made 4 different topics on this one incident that she has totally blown out of proportion.—Ryulong (竜龙) 10:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
The length of tenure since first registration is of no consequence, a user with only 69 edits is still a newcomer, and does not have the same experience as someone with 161,754 edits and a long block log. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:13, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Ryulong, you commented that she "has no idea how anything is supposed to work", and yet brandished her as a troll at the top of this thread. I do hope an editor with 150000+ edits will understand how to help other editors and collaborate in good faith better than that. --Deryck C.16:47, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
This is a matter to be discussed among the contributors to the article (and anyone else who drops by) at Talk:Strath-Taieri. Please start your discussion on that page, and if there is little reposnse after a while, you may wish to consider making a neutrally worded invitation to the other contributors on their talk pages to take part in the discussion. You can find out who they are here --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:49, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
A quick Google search would seem to support the OP's position that the title should be Strath Taieri, so I am tempted to move the page back there. If there is any opposition the move can be reverted and a Requested move discussion opened on the talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 14:49, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I am having trouble if any experienced editor with airports, airlines, and aviation on how to list London Southend Airport as a destination in airport articles. The dispute is whether or not Southend Airport is considered a London airport (i.e. Gatwick, Stansted, Luton, Heathrow, and City Airport) eventhough most of these airports are about 30 or 40 miles away from London itself and located in the suburbs....also a couple of IPs are listing it as Southend-on-the-Sea (which I believe is part of London). I have started a discussion Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Airports#London_Southend_Airport but only 2 editors replied. Thanks! Snoozlepet (talk) 21:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Southend-on-Sea is **not** part of London. It's part of Essex. The name 'London Southend Airport' is because of its private owner's branding, not location. Regional Airports Ltd (RAL) has a tendency to put 'London' on every commercial venture they acquired. Such as renaming 'Biggin Hill Airport' as 'London Biggin Hill Airport', 'Southend Airport' as 'London Southend Airport' and so on. LSA is now owned by a different company, but the name remains the same. I personally do not consider LSA as a 'London airport'. We don't even consider Luton (Bedfordshire) and Stansted (Essex), in spite of the use of 'London' in their current names, as London airports either. The only "real" London airport is London City Airport (please note that there are more than one English airport with 'City Airport' as a name). Heathrow and Gatwick are part of Greater London while City Airport is part of London (as it's in Newham Borough). For what it's worth, anyhow. 0zero9nine (talk) 01:34, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi, Periyar_(river) origin dispute. The reference's are being removed continuously without valid reasons, Also people fail to discuss the edit's in most cases. Please assist me on how to resolve this. I have earlier applied for the article protection but have failed to achieve one. Thanks. Pearll's SunTALK09:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
I see that the page is protected until tomorrow, if edit warring recommences, you could consider making reports at WP:3RR, especially if the other edits refuse to engage in discussion. Jezhotwells (talk) 17:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Since I don't know where else to ask this, I'll just do it here. On my Watchlist, the following entry appeared: "(Deletion log); 01:53 . . (Username or IP removed) (log action removed) (edit summary removed)". Note that my timezone settings are CET. I was wondering... what can be *so* secret that we can't even know which admin performed this deletion or what log entry was given? Or which page it was all about? (which was on my watchlist, so it can't have been thát bad...) Any help in shedding light on this issue would be appreciated. effeietsanders09:57, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Very sorry, really can't help you there - not enough to go on. I'll do one qiuck check and let you now what I find that might help you locate it so you know what the article was, but it must have been pretty bad to have been revdel'd and oversighted. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 10:41, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, that is exactly why I worry about it - and why it shouldn't happen this way :P Maybe in the deletion log, at 00:53 UTC ? You can find it on this page between "Yamamoto Ichiro (talk | contribs) (log action removed) (test)" and "Nyttend (talk | contribs) deleted "User talk:Floydian/Archive 1" (U1: User request to delete page in own userspace: G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup)". effeietsanders10:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
If you can't find it there, neither can I. If it's been oversighted even I can't see it. If it's not a page you created, I shouldn't worry about it. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
I am not entirely sure why you're pointing to that policy page. I am aware of oversight, but I simply see no reason why the oversighter should be hidden as well. Now it suggests that the oversighter tries to hide his action - and very effectively because people tell me basically "don't bother". effeietsanders14:58, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
It looks as if an editor has already chimed in on the lines you suggested. I don't think there's any need to escalate right now, but if the issue persists, the best venue would be WP:DR. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 17:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Quite a few months back Wikipedia editor Mike Rosoft left a comment on the Six Million Crucifixions (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) page regarding references to sources affiliated with the subject, rather than references from independent authors and third-party publications. I made a couple of attempts to contact him both on the article's Talk page and his own Talk page, to no avail.
The question is, what if some of the third party remarks in the article were written directly to the author by all those scholars in the field of the book, none of whom are affiliated with the author? They are very relevant, very significant and independent, but they were never published in an independent publication. It seems to me those are valid references. Thanks! Esautomatix (talk) 01:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
This is a matter to be discussed among the contributors to the article (and anyone else who drops by) at Talk:Six Million Crucifixions. As there has been no reponse as yet, you may wish to consider making a neutrally worded invitation to the other contributors on their talk pages to take part in the discussion. You can find out who they are here where there are also direct links to their talk pages. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
The US Army officer responsible for the success of the program, General Caldwell, has now assigned an Army officer at the program headquarters in Kabul full-time responsibility to propagandize this entry. The correct numbers were provided by statisitcal analysis from the US Army's own "Military Review" magazine. However, the U.S. Army continues to propagandize this page with numbers the Globe and Mail has shown to be false. The correct information in the U.S. Army's own magazine may be found here: http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/MilitaryReview/Archives/English/MilitaryReview_20091231_art004.pdf
Noted Afghan scholars Professor Thomas Johnson (Naval Postgraduate School) and Professor M. Chris Mason (Center for Advanced Defense Studies) have attempted repeatedly to post accurate force size numbers using the U.S. Army's own statisitical analysis.
Attempts to resolve this by compromise have failed. Entries which noted the size was "disputed by experts" have been erased by General Caldwell's staff and replaced with the falsified numbers, as reported by the Globe and Mail.
This is essentially a repeat of the Pentagon Papers, in which the U.S. military deliberately publishes falsehoods which it knows from its own sources to be false, in order to mislead the public on important matters of public policy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.97.3.231 (talk) 06:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
I have made the contribution currently listed for this entry in Wikipedia. I copied the entry from "Word" I had created to find that it has been word-wrapped. Is it possible to correct this?
Update: In spite of your brave efforts, the article was in such a mess from previous edits, after an hour I gave up and reverted it to the last coherent version. I have started a discussion on the article talk page and will be notifying have notified all the recent contributors. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:29, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
Hi folks, sorry for the lame request but I can't find the template for adding potentially useful sources to a talkpage (the one that goes near the top with the wikiproject banners). Can anyone point it out for me please? Someoneanother21:21, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
No, there's one where you can drop a source you've already found onto the talk page to give future editors a heads-up, I'm forever seeing interesting sources I don't have time to use. Thanks for responding though. Someoneanother00:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
I've had a look through the category, thanks for the link, but nothing resembling it is in there. I'll have another look around some talk pages, it would be a good template to spread around a bit. Someoneanother13:09, 8 January 2012 (UTC)