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February 18

Huggle not working

Notifications

Ì have a notification message that doesn't go away when I click on it. Suggestions? DMc75771 (talk) 00:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

There should be a "Mark as read" option on the notification page. If the notification still show up after you clicked on it, try refresh the page or clear your cache. Tutwakhamoe (talk) 01:20, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

[Sorry I'm not sure of the correct terminology here] When I hover the mouse over a hyperlink, a small window appears with information related to the text of the hyperlink. The font of the text is very small - much smaller than the text in the main article. Can I change that font size? How do I do that please? Thanks Shrdlu junction (talk) 07:36, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

I do not believe that editors have control over that aspect, since it is the formatting of the website and not the article. If the problem is with your own ability to read it, you may be able to enlarge all text on your computer via its accessibility settings. MallardTV (talk) 13:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Because you have an account, here's what you want to do:
  1. Enable the Popups gadget by going here.
  2. Set the text and popup size to suit, by doing what's described here.
--Slowking Man (talk) 16:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
@Shrdlu junction: There are two hover features. The above applies if you have enabled "Navigation popups" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. If you instead have the default "Enable page previews" at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering then try this in your CSS to get 115% of the current size:
.mwe-popups-extract {font-size:115%;}
PrimeHunter (talk) 16:16, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

How to decide problem & want to know what is the issue

What is the problem with this article Draft: Dr. Liviu Vedrasco & cannot publish it, it is showing mistake Gukush (talk) 12:02, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Gukush, wrong title, no references and blatant promo for starters, deleted now Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:19, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Search question

Is there a tool to search an editor's contributions for a specific string of text?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:48, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

To my knowledge there is not a "pre-baked" tool. The reason: doing so requires running expensive database queries to, well, trawl through the WP database, pull up every edit by the user, and search through their contents one at a time. You/others can run db queries (on "copies" of the db) via Quarry, though too "expensive" ones may timeout and fail. This tool lets you search a user's edit summaries, but not contents.
It's possible there may be a better way to accomplish what you want. To avoid the XY problem, let's back up to the start: describe the problem you want to solve. E.g., Wikiblame will search through page history, of a given page, to track down what edit made such-and-such a change (added X, deleted X etc). --Slowking Man (talk) 19:23, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
I can understnd that searching a user's edits can be "expensive" but I would think that would be true only for editors with lots of edits. In my case, the user has only 28 edits. I tried WikiBlame, even though it will not let me look for a string by a specific editor. In any event, in an article where I knew the string was added, WikiBlame said it found nothing. The article is Wadi Rum. The string is "yolojordan.com". It was added here. Please let me know if I should have done something different running the tool. Thanks.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:37, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
I got WikiBlame to find the addition by selecting "Force searching for wikitext". TSventon (talk) 23:59, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks, that worked for me too, but it ain't intuitive that that checkbox should be checked. I looked at the so-called WikiBlame user's manual (god help us) and apparently it is needed if the text is embedded in a URL, so why can't the language say that?--Bbb23 (talk) 00:04, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
I made an attempt to improve it a little. --Slowking Man (talk) 04:14, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Timeline

I'd love to add a graphical timeline to the UCI Road World Championships page - with the below information. But the timelines I've seen are *incredibly* overwhelming for someone who doesn't write in complex syntax ... can anyone assist? Thanks hugely.

Former events:

Turini2 (talk) 14:54, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Which format type is Wikipidia?

Hi everyone,

What is the standard format for Wikipedia between

1.)His parents were killed two hours later [2]. 2.)His parents were killed two hours later. [2]

1.) As the President of Uruguay, he was the chairperson of the Uruguay Social Development Commission 2.) As the president of Uruguay, he was the chairperson of the Uruguay Social Development Commission

1.) Of the seven kids killed, only two belonged to Mandela 2.) Of the 7 kids killed, only 2 belonged to Mandela ZS Khumalo (talk) 15:51, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

References go after the sentence, immediately following punctuation.Where claims can be contentious,put them directly after the claim. Don't put a space between the last word or punctuation and your reference.
"President of Uruguay" is a title, so capitalize it as its proper form.
Per MOS:NUM, consistency is more important than using one specific numbering type over another. Departure– (talk) 15:55, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
... but note that MOS:NUMERAL suggests that using "seven" and "two" is to be preferred in running text. Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Space next to | in template invocation

I recall seeing a discussion where at least some posters claimed it is acceptable, and even desireable, to have a space next to | in a template invocation, so that when editing wiki source, lines will break at better places. But I can't find where this is documented or discussed. Does anyone know? I've come across a bot edit which eliminated spaces next to |. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:14, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Did you mean space next to a pipe in wikilinks? There are no template invocations modified in this diff.
—Trappist the monk (talk) 17:01, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
@Jc3s5h: The bot used AutoWikiBrowser to make the edit. One of AWB's general fixes is to simplify the piped links. I've looked at Wikipedia:Piped link, Help:Piped link, and Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Linking#Piped links, and do not see any advice to use a space in a piped link. GoingBatty (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
The edit that made me think about this was a wikilink, but I was thinking in general. For example, it's not unusual to see spaces next to vertical bars in citation templates. Jc3s5h (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
There was discussion at Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive 82 § Adding spaces between parameters that was a follow-on from Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine/Archive 158 § Suggestion that ended up changing how ve renders the cs1|2 templates. That format is derived from the example at Wikipedia:Bots/Dictionary § editor-hostile wikitext ¶ b).
—Trappist the monk (talk) 21:01, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Is it possible to get an alert whenever vandalism is high?

I like dealing with vandalism, and have a lot of free time. It would be nice if I could receive a ping, via email or some such, when vandalism levels are particularly high, and when an "all hands on deck" situation might be present. Any solutions? Marcus Markup (talk) 17:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

Hi, @Marcus Markup. I'm not too sure about this, but I don't believe so. I admire your willingness to help out with vandalism, but I don't think you can receive a ping, especially because some vandalism doesn't get flagged. I recommend just watching the Recent Changes page whenever you can looking for anything tagged as vandalism or any accounts with barely any activity.
Good luck! Ali Beary (talk!) 17:02, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
some vandalism doesn't get flagged. True, but there are metrics for general vandalism levels. "EnterpriseyBot", for example... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EnterpriseyBot provides a "vandalism level" (based on reverts per minute) which I have as a userbox on my user page (it's currently "High" now, FWIW). A script which would send an email or a text message whenever "EnterpriseyBot" or whatever says that Wikipedia is under attack would be nice. Marcus Markup (talk) 17:08, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Actually... I can just "roll my own" solution for this, as they say, and will. Like I said, I have oodles of time... I'll just set up a cron job on my Linux box to fetch my user page every five minutes or so, and see if "EnterpriseyBot" thinks vandalism is high, and then contact me. Marcus Markup (talk) 17:22, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
@Marcus Markup: EnterpriseyBot updates the "vandalism level" only once an hour, so there's no point looking at it more frequently than that. Check the history of User:EnterpriseyBot/defcon. -- John of Reading (talk) 18:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! Marcus Markup (talk) 18:44, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Unhappily , a function like this doesn't exist in my knowledge.

Do you use the watchlist ? You can add pages you want to monitor. Anatole-berthe (talk) 17:30, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Editing my Raw Watchlist

Way back in the past, I was able to go to my watchlist and edit the raw list. I would do this in the instances that I want to watch a page for a different year. For example, I would watch 2020 Major League Baseball season (for example), along with many other 2020 specific pages. When it is time for the new year, I would go in to the raw list and just update the text listing to reflect 2021 Major League Baseball season and the other pages. I found this much easier than going to each page of the new year and watching it.

Now, when I go to edit the raw list, I get a blank page. The text listing briefly appears, but then comes up blank. How can I get it to have the list appear? I have tried in both Chrome and Edge? Thank you. swinquest (talk) 17:41, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

@Swinquest What happens when you click on the link Special:EditWatchlist/raw? If that doesn't work for you, then I suggest you take the problem to WP:VPT, with full details of any error message. It works for me using Edge/Windows PC. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:39, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
There's an image of what happens for him right → there. It works for me, too, which is surprising since it hasn't for what seems like forever ("Your watchlist has 45,618 pages (and their talk pages)"). I guess the next thing to try would be safemode (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EditWatchlist/raw?safemode=1) though since he has no user css and his only user js subpage is blank I'm pessimistic that it'd help. —Cryptic 12:58, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
@Swinquest: The image shows you have enabled wikEd at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. The safemode link should work but you can also disable wikEd temporarily on an icon at the top right of the window. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:20, 19 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you so much. I was able to get wikEd disabled and now it appears (not in safe mode). I really appreciate the assistance. swinquest (talk) 17:03, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Article for the US-Russia meeting in Saudi Arabia?

Would it be beneficial for me to start writing an article about the current meeting between representatives of the US and Russia? It's the most extensive meeting since 2022 and importantly doesn't include Ukraine. There's a lot to write about and it seems as though this will become a big historical moment. I don't want to start writing a draft just to be told someone's already doing it or it doesn't need an article, so that's why I'm asking on here. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 17:42, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

@Chorchapu: A lot of material is being added to Peace negotiations in the Russian invasion of Ukraine#2025, so I suggest you don't start a separate new article. -- John of Reading (talk) 17:47, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
There is a single sentence in that article about this meeting. User:Chorchapu (talk|edits|commons|wiktionary|simple english) 20:48, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
@Chorchapu That article is expanding rapidly and its talk page is the place to discuss with other interested editors when/if a spin-off article is needed. Mike Turnbull (talk) 12:35, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Make page more searchable

I'm a fairly new editor and recently created a page for a person - Michael Alexander Kahn. I would like to know how I can edit so that searching Michael Kahn, Kahn, Michael, etc. will find his page. Lauranorcal (talk) 17:45, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

@Lauranorcal: This is done by creating redirects to the article from those titles. Follow the link to learn about how to set one up. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Re-signing for botched ping —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 18:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Michael Kahn is a Wikipedia:Disambiguation page listing several people with the same name. The article should probably be moved to Michael Kahn (lawyer) and added to the list.
Google searches are also important, but new pages cannot be indexed by Google until they have been reviewed by Wikipedia:New pages patrol, which can take a couple of months, or until the article is 90 days old. TSventon (talk) 18:38, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you Lauranorcal (talk) 19:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
Thank you Lauranorcal (talk) 19:00, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
To editor Lauranorcal: Do you by any chance have any connection to Michael Kahn? If you do you need to read this linked page. In particular if you happen to be receiving compensation for editing Wikipedia in relation to them, you must disclose this.
As TSventon stated, I believe the article also needs to be moved to conform with our standard naming conventions for biographies. In a nutshell: use whatever name sources typically use to refer to them. If their middle name isn't regularly used then it shouldn't be used in the page title. (As mentioned it is standard practice to create redirects for different naming variations, so go right ahead in doing that.) If you have more questions you're welcome to ask them here. --Slowking Man (talk) 20:31, 18 February 2025 (UTC)
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