Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2008 October 8

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 – an issue for WP:NFCR at this point. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 22:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is very improbable that the yahoo user that posted it on the group owns the copyright for the photography. http://www.oomyungdoe.com/graphics/csnapple.jpg while not being the exact same image shows clearly the same shot (note that I am unable to access the Yahoo! Group in question) -- lucasbfr ^talk 12:58, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've done quite a bit to fix the rationale up. I am afraid I am still learning a bit about how to load images onto wikipedia. The images are from materials copyrighted by Oom Yung Doe, LLC, as I've indicated on the rationale.

You correctly noted that both of the images are very similar but not the same. The reasoning for having two such similar photos is relevant to the article. At any rate, even though they are basically the same, I've tried to provide information about where each of them comes form. Hope that keeps them from being deleted. Cjim63 (talk) 15:16, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How does this modified image meet the criteria for the Non-free_historic_image FUR? Quoting from the licensing template: [1] "it is a "faithful digitization of a historical event", "intended to illustrate the event"? Either of the images composing it would be. The official policy on non-free content [2] also states "Multiple items of non-free content are not used if one item can convey equivalent significant information.", this image does not meet that criteria either. --63.215.28.31 (talk) 18:43, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both of the images in this derivative are copyright Oom Yung Doe, LLC and can be found on the official website. Neither has been released to the Public Domain. Per Wikipedia policy, this image must be deleted. 209.247.21.147 (talk) 02:42, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the image is now marked fair use, it is outwith the scope of this page. You can list it at Wikipedia:Fair use review if you wish. Stifle (talk) 10:24, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claims to be copyright holder and releasing via CC license but appears to be copied from a website http://www.aboutxinjiang.com/Science/content/images/attachement/jpg/site2/20071127/0016eca4c78f08b5d87317.jpg Whpq (talk) 14:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claims to be copyright holder and releasing via CC license but appears to be copied from a website http://www.business-standard.com/special/billion/2005/bill05_05.jpg Whpq (talk) 14:30, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claims to be copyright holder and releasing via CC license but appears to be copied from a website http://www.pmc.edu.pk/images/fjmc.gif Whpq (talk) 14:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license, but the image apepars to be a scan and the uploader is very unlikely to be copyright holder. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC) The creator died 50 years ago so according tp pakistan copyright law the picture is now in public domain.--BurhanAhmed 05:52, 11 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burhan Ahmed (talk • contribs) [reply]

You will need to identify the source of the image in order for the claim that it is PD to be verified. When first confronted with the license problems, you claimed that all the images were taken by you with your camera. Now, you make the same claim, but only on the images which haven't been specifically identified with a source for the copyright violation. To be quite blunt, this appears to be a concerted effort on your part to slip copyrighted material into wikipedia. -- Whpq (talk) 12:21, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:39, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken this picture from my own digital camera and it has not been copied from any webpage or scanned from any journal or prospectus--BurhanAhmed 05:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burhan Ahmed (talk • contribs)

You took this with your digital camera? That is simply not at all a credible statement given that the image is a composite image. -- Whpq (talk) 12:11, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image in fact comes from http://www1.xjmu.edu.cn/gjjyxyen/illustration/pic%20railroad%202.jpg -- Whpq (talk) 12:48, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:40, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken this picture from my own digital camera and it has not been copied from any webpage or scanned from any journal or prospectus--BurhanAhmed 05:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

That is simply not a credible statement. The image is a GIF image and is clearly a rendered or drawn image. It isn't a photograph! -- Whpq (talk) 12:14, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image in fact comes from http://www1.xjmu.edu.cn/gjjyxyen/illustration/pic%20of%20fourth.GIF -- Whpq (talk) 12:47, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken this picture from my own digital camera and it has not been copied from any webpage or scanned from any journal or prospectus --BurhanAhmed 05:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

This is not credible given the image is a GIF and is a drawing and not a photograph. -- Whpq (talk) 12:22, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And doubly so now that I've found it one the web at http://www1.xjmu.edu.cn/gjjyxyen/illustration/cancer%20hospital.GIF -- Whpq (talk) 12:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken this picture from my own digital camera and it has not been copied from any webpage or scanned from any journal or prospectus--BurhanAhmed 05:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

The image appears to have been taken from http://www1.xjmu.edu.cn/gjjyxyen/illustration/picture1.jpg -- Whpq (talk) 12:44, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 15:47, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have taken this picture from my own digital camera and it has not been copied from any webpage or scanned from any journal or prospectus--BurhanAhmed 05:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

I've tried to assume good faith, but now we've entered the territory of outright dishonesty. It was curious with all these images, the ones I were unable to find an image source for, you made a claim to have photographed with your digital camera. Based on EXIF data, you've been making photos with a Sony Ericcson 810i camera phone. Yet the EXIF data for this image shows it to be taken with a Canon EOS 20D. And as it turns out, the image appears to be taken from http://www1.xjmu.edu.cn/gjjyxyen/illustration/picture3.jpg, the university web site. -- Whpq (talk) 12:39, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And I should also note that image:Sah xmu.jpg above was taken with a Nikon D70. Veritable dizzying array of digital cameras. -- Whpq (talk) 12:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image is taken from http://www.pakistanileaders.com.pk/pGallery/Sherry_Rehman/Sherry_800.jpg Whpq (talk) 15:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. Image appears to be taken from a web site. Uploader has a history of copyright violations. See his talk page history Whpq (talk) 16:03, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. However, the image is a school logo and the uploader is almost certain to have no ownership of its copyright Whpq (talk) 16:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This image has been reproduced by the permission of principal of the school, Sahukat Sultan.--BurhanAhmed 05:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

You need to provide proof via an OTRS ticket (see WP:DCP) to show to validate this. But more importantly, the liocense claimed is that you hold the copyright which is now clearly not true and so you cannot claim that you release it under a CC license. -- Whpq (talk) 12:16, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As far I remember, it was not written Crescentarian on the logo; instead it was a prayer: Rabb-e-Zidni Ilma. muzammil786 (talk) 20:50, 12 October 2008 (EST)

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. However, the image is a school logo and the uploader is almost certain to have no ownership of its copyright Whpq (talk) 16:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

this image has been taken from my own digital camera. this is the logo of my school and have been published by the permission of the chairman of the board governors of laurelbank public school, Dr. Mrs Salma Mian.--BurhanAhmed 05:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burhan Ahmed (talk • contribs)

Claims to be copyright holder and releasing via CC license but appears to be copied from a website http://www.bollywoodblog.com/images/TN3641_Maureen-Wadia.jpg Whpq (talk) 16:35, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Claims to be copyright holder and releasing via CC license but appears to be copied from a website http://www.urbanpk.com/upkgallery/projectpictures/Lahore/Sir%20Ganga%20Ram%20Hospital/Lahore%20-%20Sir%20Ganga%20Ram%20Hospital%20-%20New%20Block%201%20-%2002.jpg Note that the image is cropped from but in doing the crop, some of the lettering in the top left corner is still visible Whpq (talk) 16:42, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Uploader claims to hold the copyright and releases under CC license. However, the image is a university logo and the uploader is almost certain to have no ownership of its copyright Whpq (talk) 16:53, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This image has been published by Burhan Ahmed Mian; that is me, I am the President of Xinjiang Medical University Foreign Students Council. I have asked the permission from the university president before publishing this. This picture is taken by my own digital camera from the university convocation.--BurhanAhmed 05:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burhan Ahmed (talk • contribs)

The key issue is that the license is not appropriate. -- Whpq (talk) 12:17, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the license is correct as it is the logo of the university and copyright is with the university. I think the license is accurate. --Drtahirmuneeb (talk) 10:45, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am wondering whether this is actually a public domain image. It seems pretty unlikely that the original uploader was the taker of the picture, or that he has the rights to release it as such. - sorfane 17:21, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image appears to have been taken from http://www.musik-base.de/images/groups/The-Mock-Turtles.jpg -- Whpq (talk) 17:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Composite image with a copyright map (I think an AA one) being used substantially. Purgatorio (talk) 17:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Composite image with a copyright map (I think an Excel one) being used substantially. Purgatorio (talk) 17:24, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no evidence this was published in india; he lived in several countries at different points in his life Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no evidence this was published in india; he lived in several countries at different points in his life Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like a publicity shot, I doubt the uploader owns the rights to this image. J Milburn (talk) 18:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt it too, since it came from http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/04/30/article-1017602-0116A8E600000578-715_468x286_popup.jpg -- Whpq (talk) 19:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Low resolution, no meta-data. Probably taken from elsewhere, perhaps a prospectus. J Milburn (talk) 18:54, 8 October 2008 (UTC) Photo was taken by EVL students and sent to our Media library at the College —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmatthes (talk • contribs) 15:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Licensing changed

Licensing:

{{cc-by-3.0}}

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Tmatthes (talk • contribs)

• Delete. As you say, the image was student-made and thus the student photographer retains copyright. UIC and their agents (which I assume you are) have no copyright to this image. IronGargoyle (talk)

Source website is all rights reserved, exact source not provided, permission is possibly only for Wikipedia use, not use by anyone. J Milburn (talk) 19:00, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The template says it needs to pre 1923, but the file name and cover of the magazine say 1924.[3] It was originally {{PD-old-50}} I'm not sure where that applies, or if I should revert to that version or not, but the current template is illogical. dvdrw 20:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's an issue of Kurt Schwitters' Merz, designed by El Lissitzky. As a German publication, it would fall into the public domain 70 years after the death of the author. Neither Lissitzky nor Schwitters has been dead 70 years. --dave pape (talk) 02:34, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The text and source provided when uploaded does not support the GFDL-presumed tag applied. The image is used with permission for WP. Jordan 1972 (talk) 23:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Have been communicating with uploader and provided link to WP:permission to help allow user to follow up on the permission apparently granted.--Jordan 1972 (talk) 20:46, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

 – Kept, tagged {{PD-textlogo}}. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free logo. OsamaK 23:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could this be {{PD-textlogo}}? Stifle (talk) 11:07, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Stifle's PD-textlogo assessment above. IronGargoyle (talk) 17:45, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]