Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2009 November 24

• Takhar, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Al Mahra, Yemen → Yemen (links to redirect) (stats)
• Lowgar, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Ghayl Bawazir → Yemen (links to redirect) (stats)
• Al Muquala → Yemen (links to redirect) (stats)
• Hathramuut → Yemen (links to redirect) (stats)
• Al-Haymah → Yemen (links to redirect) (stats)
• Koozbia, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Tora Oba, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Gulnoon Khan, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Kundai, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Sheikh Amir, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Pattia Province, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Nadali, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Roy E Sang, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Tark Itmak, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Lakan, Khowst Province → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Darya-e-Pech, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Zalakha, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Nimbrooz, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Dourbani, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Mangal Village, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Safra-andarikhail, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Pai Warzai, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Warzai, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Charchno, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)
• Kundarkhiel, Afghanistan → Afghanistan (links to redirect) (stats)

I'd like to see these unhelpful and deceptive redirections erased. They don't aid navigation. All the instances where these redirections are used already have an explicit link to Afghanistan. Further, the existence of the redirection strips the information someone maintaining the articles where this links is used of the clue that an article is missing. History, in July a very dedicated contributor created hundreds of unhelpful and deceptive redirections, just like these ones [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]. When I questioned this determined contributor, and asked him to pause and discuss this initiative, they basically blew me off. It seemed to me they weren't making enough of an effort to address other contributor's concerns with their initiatives. I felt I was forced to make the first of several nominations of this type. When I thought the almost total lack of support for the redirections to Yemen might convince the determined contributor to agree to put {db-author} on the remaining hundred plus similar redirections. That would have been a lot less work for everyone. They declined to do so. I didn't nominate these remaining redirections for deletion back then, hoping that they would see the handwriting on the wall, and save everyone's time with judicious use of {db-author}. It has been a couple of months, and I have given up waiting. Geo Swan (talk) 23:49, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• It would be far better to stubify each of these with (at least) short articles, but unless someone is willing to do this, the best action is to delete all and list at WP:Requested articles/Afghanistan so there would (eventually) be some hope of presenting encyclopedic information on these communities. 147.70.242.54 (talk) 00:10, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete all. Redlinks encourage new articles, redirects like these seem to engender confusion - Peripitus (Talk) 10:49, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Royal house (temp) → Royal house (links to redirect) (stats) 

Another one of Wikipedia's "temporary" redirects, many of which were created by moving of temporary pages that have long since been merged or deleted. The name of the redirect is definitely not a viable search item. Per the dozens of other "temporary" redirects that we've deleted in 2009 (and earlier), this should also be deleted as housekeeping. Citing the same justification, I also offer the following for consideration as well:

• Geoffrey Trease/Temp → Geoffrey Trease (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Crossbar latch/Temp → Crossbar latch (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Marc gunn/Temp → Marc Gunn (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Dielectric Shader/Temp → Dielectric Shader (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Socket M temp → Socket M (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Stephen Demainbray/Temp → Stephen Demainbray (links to redirect) (stats) 
• IRC operator temp → Internet Relay Chat operator (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Safe-cracking/Temp → Safe-cracking (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Gene Spafford/temp → Gene Spafford (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Lake whitefish (temp) → Lake whitefish (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Eight Banners (Temp) → Eight Banners (links to redirect) (stats) 
• John Ngugi/Temp → John Ngugi (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Sulfonic acid/Temp → Sulfonic acid (links to redirect) (stats) 

147.70.242.54 (talk) 21:04, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• As long as these are orphaned, and there is no relevant history on these pages, they can be speedily deleted under criterion G8. Same goes for the nomination below. — This, that, and the other (talk) 06:29, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as they've clearly served their purpose. Josh Parris 10:18, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Miklós Zrínyi temp → Nikola Šubić Zrinski (links to redirect) (stats) 

Delete temporary redirect to a temporary page. Probability of anybody using this as a search item is virtually nil. For the same reason I also nominate

• Miklos Zrinyi temp → Nikola Šubić Zrinski (links to redirect) (stats) 

147.70.242.54 (talk) 20:47, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more redirects. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the redirect's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was Speedy Delete G3: Vandalism --Taelus (talk) 00:09, 25 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Pope Gutless Bastard the First → Pope Pius XII (links to redirect) (stats) 

It appears to have no reason for being except as an insult, and should be deleted for offensiveness. A. Parrot (talk) 20:19, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Celeris/redirects → Celeris (links to redirect) (stats) 

Delete. Another "temporary" redirect that advertises that it's a redirect. A few months ago, we deleted dozens of such; this one was created in October 2009. I also nominate, with the same justification:

• New Atlantis/redirects → New Atlantis (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Migration period/redirects → Migration period (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Save the Lies/redirects → Save the Lies (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Nervous Breakdown (album)/redirects → Nervous Breakdown (album) (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Destruction Derby/redirects → Destruction Derby (links to redirect) (stats) 
• Forbidden relationships in Judaism/redirects → Forbidden relationships in Judaism (links to redirect) (stats) 

147.70.242.54 (talk) 19:56, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete purpose served Josh Parris 10:33, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]