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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates. I still don't know what the IM stands for... ~ Amory (u • t • c) 14:00, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:4IM → User:Maddie!/Don't start with a level 4im warning  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget. This essay is a decade old, but appears to have only been cited twice in all that time. I think Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace/Multi-level templates would be a more logical target.  — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 15:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Update: GorillaWarfare told me over IRC that she thinks it "was a mistaken link" on her part. So that leaves (at most) one time it's ever been linked intentionally. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 05:44, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget to Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 13:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Steel1943: Do you mean the Multi-level templates subpage like I suggested? If not, may I ask why not? Thanks. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 16:24, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @PinkAmpersand: I'd say me withdrawing my statement is the simplest answer at this point. Steel1943 (talk) 16:30, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Bit confused here, but okay. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 16:36, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per nom, though I don't see the redirect being particularly useful.. Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:29, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. James of UR (talk) 11:29, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• WPUNDUE → Wikipedia:Neutral point of view  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Cross namespace redirect BillHPike (talk, contribs) 08:34, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Colon-less redirects like these should really be added to the R2 criterion. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 15:49, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 19:31, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I agree. We don't need to keep this. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:18, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom. Steel1943 (talk) 13:40, 9 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:STOPCHANGINGIT → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Video games#Cover art  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Delete as just kind of senseless; this sentiment could apply to anything, and it's not even correct (there are plenty of circumstances under which a video game cover image should be changed, e.g. because it's a non-English one and an English one is available, because it's a blurry image, and so on. This "commandment" also smacks of WP:OWN / WP:VESTED issues.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:32, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete 8 years ago it was a thing where there were frequent fights over which infobox image was the "correct" one, to the point where the redirect target has to say "If a suitable English-language cover art already exists on the subject page, then do not waste time replacing it with a different version.". 8 years on, it's not such a big deal, and the redirect is not terribly specific. --PresN 12:49, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - This doesn't seem worth keeping to me either. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 09:31, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Nintendo DS vs. PlayStation Portable console war → Glossary of video game terms  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Seems too overly specific and implausible as a redirect. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:19, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete per nom. No one is ever likely to use this exact phrase.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete over-specified term when Console war suffices. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:14, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - I agree. This doesn't seem particularly helpful. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:27, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was soft redirect to Invincibility. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:31, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Invincibility → Glossary of video game terms  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

How in the name of all that is holy is "invincibility" only pertinent to video games? Perhaps this should be a soft Wiktionary redirect instead. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:17, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Soft redir, per nom, in absence of a better target. This is a common enough trope/motif in fiction of various kinds that an encyclopedic article could possibly be written about it, but if it hasn't been yet, it may never be.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:21, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Was changed from Invincible (disambiguation) in 2014, so it's been at the video game glossary for a while. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:32, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Softly redirect to Wiktionary. None of the links at Invincible mention the nominative form of the word, so Wiktionary seems like the more logical target. — PinkAmpers&^{(Je vous invite à me parler)} 03:59, 5 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Soft retarget to wiktionary seems to be the best option per above --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:16, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Animal Races in Warcraft universe → Races and factions of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Animal races in Warcraft universe → Races and factions of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Formerly pointed to a list of monsters. Implausible for this to redirect to a list of sentient races. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 06:00, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete; the monsters/animals are a different topic than the target, and one that was elminated per WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete but propose List of Warcraft races or List of Warcraft species as plausible alternatives. Animal races would overspecify. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:40, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• List of Warcraft animal races → Races and factions of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Formerly a list of monsters. Implausible for this to redirect to a list of sentient races. Entirely fancruft. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:57, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete; the monsters/animals are a different topic than the target, and one that was elminated per WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:36, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as above. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:18, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal. Killiondude (talk) 07:42, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:Game guide → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Video games  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 
• Wikipedia:VGGUIDE → Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Video games  (talk · links · history · [1])     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Retarget to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal, with {{Redr|{{R to section}}}}, to match WP:GAMEGUIDE, WP:NOT#GAMEGUIDE, and WP:NOTGAMEGUIDE. These are not appropriate alternative names for MOS:VG. "WP is not a [video] game guide" is a common phrase in correcting improper writing about games here, so the proposed target is a far more plausible, thus the pre-existing shortcuts.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 05:55, 4 February 2018 (UTC); revised to include Wikipedia:VGGUIDE, 06:18, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget Per nom._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:58, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  @Zxcvbnm: I added Wikipedia:VGGUIDE after your !vote, in case that affects your comment.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:18, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Retarget per nom. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 00:19, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. James of UR (talk) 11:28, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Www.Poptropica.com → Poptropica  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No evidence of necessity of the "www." prefix. Just "Poptropica.com" is much more appropriate. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:52, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep. This isn't an article title, it's a redirect, so WP:CONCISE and WP:PRECISE do not apply. A copy-paste of the hostname is entirely plausible.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:24, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak Keep - I'm not sure about this. At the same time, it seems perfectly reasonable for us to expect people to type the entire website name, including the prefix, into the search engine when so many individuals aren't familar with Wikipedia naming guidelines. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 22:21, 8 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Project Lore → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:49, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete all of these, per nom. If they are things that should be in the article, they can be added and the redirects selectively re-created after they are actually appropriate.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:34, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Herb (World of Warcraft) → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:47, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete since Wikipedia is not an in-depth game guide. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:23, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - It's not appropriate for Wikipedia to go into minute details on how to use the series' various items. I agree. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 01:30, 7 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Tenbrion → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete google search points to some League of Legends and WoW player :/ Obscure synonym at best. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:25, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, yet another vanity article about someone's character that should have been deleted at the time. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:45, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Stoneblood → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:46, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• delete seems to be an in-game item that improves hitpoints. Delete due to obscurity even within the game itself --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:18, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Krork → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete oddly, this is a race in Warhammer 40000 rather than WoW. Still it's an obscure lore detail that isn't covered by the wiki. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:27, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, another vanity article about someone's character that was inexplicably redirected instead of tagged for deletion. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:44, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was retarget to Warcraft. May be weak references but cheap and plausible search term James of UR (talk) 22:30, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Ashenvale Forest → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:45, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Weak Retarget to Warcraft where it is mentioned. Weak since it is simply mentioned (uncited) once in the article --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:29, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Retarget per Lenticel. Honestly surprised there aren't more mentions of the locations in the universe. I think having this is useful to prevent creation of a non-notable article. Besides, the name is innocuous enough that someone might come across it without knowing what it was. ~ Amory (u • t • c) 13:54, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was delete. Killiondude (talk) 07:39, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Barugalor → World of Warcraft  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Not mentioned in target article. _{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:44, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete I can't find any good targets for this term. Google search did not give any good leads. --Lenticel ^(talk) 00:22, 6 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, probably speedily. You won't find anything about this term as it was created as a vanity article about somebody's character. It was inexplicably recreated as a redirect by the deleting admin moments later. —Xezbeth (talk) 16:43, 10 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Www.jma.go.jp → Japan Meteorological Agency  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

Currently a redirect to an agency. No evidence of necessity of this particular redirect, since it doesn't appear to be a common name for the organization's website. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:43, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep since it's the functional hostname, a copy-paste of which is entirely plausible. WP:COMMONAME does not apply to redirects.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:25, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep – Redirects are cheap, and this redirect is in no way harmful. Master of Time (talk) 06:57, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. (non-admin closure) Galobtter (pingó mió) 06:36, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Www.wikipedia.com → Wikipedia  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No evidence of necessity. Seems like it might qualify under R3 as a possible misnomer. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:41, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep High number of pageviews indicate that it appears to be a common typo._{ZXCVBNM (TALK)} 05:42, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Zxcvbnm; WP:PRECISE and WP:RECOGNIZABLE apply to article titles, not redirects; it simply has to be a plausibly recurrent attempt, not a correct one.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:27, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The result of the discussion was keep. James of UR (talk) 11:25, 11 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Www.jewwatch.com → Jew Watch  (talk · links · history · stats)     [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ] 

No evidence of necessity. Doesn't appear to be a commonly referred to name of the website. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:40, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, per the above similar cases. Going to leave a note at User talk:Bneu2013 about this.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 06:26, 4 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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