Mark Carney looks likely to be appointed Prime Minister soon, without being an elected politician. Presumably to carry out his Prime Ministerial duties he must speak in Parliament, but as he has no riding, can he then not vote? CMD (talk) 07:07, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

CBC reports:

For those unfamiliar with the terminology, see electoral district (Canada). 2A00:23A8:4458:1901:78BA:C932:A6BE:9DCA (talk) 11:40, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the first time this has happened. Most recently, when Pierre Trudeau retired, John Turner was pulled out of political retirement to become PM (and lost the subsequent election, but gained a seat in Parliament for himself). --142.112.222.162 (talk) 12:21, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It would be a problem (not being a member of Parliament) if the situation was to last for a while. When this has happened previously, an MP from a safe seat and from the same party has agreed to step down so the Prime Minister can run in a by-election. This happened twice with Mackenzie King (see Electoral history of William Lyon Mackenzie King). But since Parliament is currently not sitting and Carney is widely expected to call for an election in the coming days, it is not likely to be an issue. Xuxl (talk) 13:49, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I expect he'll gain a seat in an election, I'm more asking about what the theoretical issues are in the meantime. To my understanding the calling of an election does not require a vote, so if the Governor-General accepts Carney as PM and then accepts an election, perhaps we'll never know. CMD (talk) 14:00, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There's a kind of parallel with what happened in Australia in early 1968. Harold Holt (Prime Minister; Liberal Party) went swimming in the surf and never resurfaced. John McEwen from the Country (i.e. National) Party was appointed interim Prime Minister pending the Liberal Party electing a new leader to succeed Holt. They chose John Gorton, who was a member of the parliament, but in the Senate rather than the House of Representatives, where the government is formed and where the Prime Minister normally always sits. So Gorton started out his premiership as a senator. Then he resigned in order to contest the by-election caused by Holt's death. That meant that, for a few weeks, he was prime minister without being a member of parliament at all. He won the by-election, and then led the government from the House of Representatives. All this was possible because our constitution explicitly allows a person to be a minister without being in parliament, but the ministerial appointment lapses unless they enter parliament within 60 days. I don't know whether Canada has any similar provision. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 06:29, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

See Premiership of Alec Douglas-Home. The Earl of Home was a member of the House of Lords when he became PM. Four days (23 October) later he disclaimed his peerages and became Sir Alec Douglas-Home, stood successfully in a by-election to the Commons on 7th November, Parliament resumed on the 12th. So he was PM while not a member of either House for 20 days. DuncanHill (talk) 11:30, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Sounds like they had the election before Parliament resumed in order to avoid questions like mine, which I understand is the likely path Carney will take. CMD (talk) 14:18, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"Raphides and Plant Crystals", published in 1878, is credited to "Mrs. G. R. Cowen", who appears to have been affiliated to the Nottingham Literary and Philosophical Society. I can find no other mention of her, but wonder if "G. R." are her initials, or those of her husband. If the latter, might he be George Roberts Cowen (and thus she would be Ann, née Guilford)? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 10:00, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ann was suffragist, and "Mrs. G. R. Cowen" spoke at Suffrage meetings in Nottingham and Sheffield, per [1]. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:09, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The idea of a women's suffrage advocate being identified by her husband's name is quite amusing to me. Submitting to the patriarchy while fighting against the patriarchy... --User:Khajidha (talk) (contributions) 12:27, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nottingham Evening Post - Wednesday 10 January 1894 Death of Mrs G. R. Cowen. Eldest daughter of the late Mr Thomas Guilford of Nottingham. 1883 first and at that time only female member of the Nottingham School Board, reelected 1886 and 1889. Women's Liberal Association, Women's Suffrage Association, Ladies' Sanitary Association. High Pavement Unitarian Congregation. One sister on the School Board, another on the Board of Guardians. No mention of a husband. DuncanHill (talk) 13:06, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nottingham Evening Post - Saturday 11 May 1907 Obituary Mr G. R. Cowen, Long obit, covers business and public activities, Liberal, twice-married, the second time to "Miss Guildford of Nottingham who died in 1894", she was a member of the Nottingham School Board and an earnest worker in many beneficent causes. There were children of the first marriage, not the second. DuncanHill (talk) 13:20, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nottingham Evening Post - Friday 12 January 1894 Funeral of the late Mrs Cowen, of Nottingham does mention husband, coffin born by four foremen and four workmen of the Beck Street works. School Board, Liberal Associations, etc, represented. DuncanHill (talk) 13:32, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We have an article about the High Pavement Chapel. DuncanHill (talk) 13:44, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A Plea for Cowen Street mentions both Mr and Mrs G. R. DuncanHill (talk) 13:46, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As to her name (Ann or Mrs G. R.) she seems to have used Ann for electoral purposes, see for example Nottingham Journal - Saturday 04 December 1886 School Board Election - To the Ratepayers of the Borough of Nottingham, thanking those ratepayers for the support they have given to the "Liberal Eight" and the cause of Public Unsectarian Education. DuncanHill (talk) 14:01, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is, or was, an Ann Cowen Scholarship, tenable at the High Pavement Higher Elementary Council School. I cannot ascertain if from her estate or her husband's. DuncanHill (talk) 14:06, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DuncanHill: Thank you for all these. It must surely be the same woman, but it would be good to have a concrete link. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:34, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Pigsonthewing: I know, the Lit & Phil is the one link I haven't been able to find. DuncanHill (talk) 18:52, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The List of Principal Contributors in Midland Naturalist does say that their Mrs G. R. Cowen is from Nottingham. DuncanHill (talk) 00:15, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ann Guilford and George R Cowen were married at Nottingham in the September quarter of 1866, as recorded in volume 7B of the register on page 367. The odds against there being another Mrs G R Cowen in the Nottingham area at that time are astronomical. 2A00:23D0:E1B:B401:2834:9C12:706:E9BB (talk) 14:59, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Even astronomicaller, considering that she, in either incarnation (naturalist and suffragist) was clearly well educated, a rare luxury for women in late 19th-century Britain.  ​‑‑Lambiam 11:50, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, all. Now at Ann Cowen (Q133263994), with her husband already at George Roberts Cowen (Q63157064). Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Another mention of Ann Cowen, and her sisters Sarah and Hannah Guilford Nottingham Women's History - A Century of Women's Suffrage. G R Cowen, 1901 biography. DuncanHill (talk) 01:10, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

So apparently there was wide support for the movement within the Church - the Bishop of Nottingham is Roman Catholic, the Bishop of Southwell is Anglican. To avoid confusion, when the Roman Catholic Church was readmitted in the nineteenth century, it set up a whole new hierarchy. That works both ways - when an Anglican suffragan bishop was appointed in 2005 he was given the title Bishop of Sherwood, although he resides in Mapperley Park. Something I found out today - in the Roman Catholic Church a suffragan bishop has his own diocese, an Anglican one doesn't. The Catholic church holds to tradition - for example, in the Anglican church becoming a deacon is a stepping stone to becoming a priest (the Archdeacon of Canterbury is actually a priest). Since 1965 Catholic deacons have had tenure. 2A00:23D0:E1B:B401:A039:6BF5:DF8A:8EE1 (talk) 15:09, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

"That works both ways" - unfortunately not always. For example, in 1882 the Roman Catholic Diocese of Portsmouth was established, Portsmouth at that time falling within the Anglican Diocese of Winchester. But when south-east Hampshire and the Isle of Wight were separated from the latter diocese in 1927, they became the Anglican Diocese of Portsmouth. Since then there have been both Roman Catholic and Anglican Bishops of Portsmouth. There are also two dioceses based in each of Southwark, Liverpool and Birmingham, though they are easier to distinguish because in all those cases the Roman Catholic one is an archdiocese. Proteus (Talk) 17:35, 13 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

 This section is resolved and can be archived. If you disagree, replace this template with your comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:03, 12 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I read from this article that he apparently graduated from said university, but I cannot find him in any list for notable alumni from De La Salle. My guesses are (1) they forgot to add him, (2) he's not notable enough (?? I mean he is a legislator). (3) or the university of where he graduated from isn't available knowledge on the internet. As far as google searches can go I could not find anymore sources that can give me any information about his alma mater. Aside from other this source I found that states that he graduated from the University of the East instead, but I find it to be highly dubious (considering the site stated his location to be from Visayas, when he's stationed in Quezon). Raenpo (talk) 13:31, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As one of the top three universities in the Philippines, you can expect that they have a lot of notable alumni. So being a congressman/mayor may not be worth mentioning. Stanleykswong (talk) 16:06, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Lane splitting begins with Lane splitting is riding a bicycle or motorcycle between lanes or rows of slow moving or stopped traffic moving in the same direction, with two citations to US Department of Transportation pages that have fallen victim to linkrot. Just a few sentences later, the article says Filtering or filtering forward is to be contrasted with lane splitting. Lane filtering refers to motorcycles moving through traffic that is stopped, such as at a red traffic light, with citations to another linkrotted USDOT page and a European Union document, which my browser can't load.

Here in Australia, "lane filtering" specifically means moving through stopped or very-slow traffic, whilst "lane splitting" means moving through traffic at speed. Is this different from US definitions (kind of a legal version of an ENGVAR situation), or is it just poor work by the editors of this article? Given Google's bias toward sources from the searcher's location, it's hard to find useful US documents. Nyttend (talk) 20:20, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

American here, though absolutely not an expert on the topic: I've also heard lane-splitting used to refer to riding between lanes regardless of speed. Looks like both those DOT links are archived, though, per a quick check of the Wayback Machine, and could be rescued. Here are versions from some randomly selected dates:

• https://web.archive.org/web/20160305060746/https://www.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/motorcycle/00-NHT-212-motorcycle/glossary71-72.html
• https://web.archive.org/web/20191202194217/https://one.nhtsa.gov/people/injury/pedbimot/motorcycle/00-NHT-212-motorcycle/motorcycle51.html

Looks like the EU PDF is archived too, fwiw. -- Avocado (talk) 14:15, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any examples of women ruling any of the Irish petty kingdoms prior to the Tudor conquest of Ireland? I am talking about the independent petty Kingdoms in Ireland prior to English conquest. Could women rule in them, and are there historical examples when this happened? Thank you --Aciram (talk) 22:48, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

None are listed at List_of_female_monarchs#United_Kingdom_and_Ireland. --Amble (talk) 23:58, 10 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Grace O'Malley Stanleykswong (talk) 17:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tried looking at List of Irish royal consorts? 122.56.85.105 (talk) 21:38, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Ancient Irish was a patriarchal society. Medieval Irish law (the Brehon law)  was unkind to women. True ruling queens appeared only in Irish mythology, such as Maeve of Connacht (1st century Ulster mythology). Queens with the right to rule were very rare in Irish history. Grace O'Malley, Aoife MacMurrough and Gormflaith ingen Murchada were the three famous female leaders/rulers. Stanleykswong (talk) 22:16, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]