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Was she a painter?

The article of Marguerite Émilie Chalgrin refers to her as a painter, but I have found nothing online to confirm this. Neither does the article describe her work, other than giving her the title of painter. It this a mixup and confusion based on the fact that her father was a painter? Are there any confirmation that she herself was a painter? Thank you.--Aciram (talk) 23:52, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I too can find nothing about any paintings by her. I'm beginning to suspect that someone has been confused by references to portraits of her by others, such as Élisabeth Vigée Le Brun, where catalogue entries merely giving the names of artist and subject may have been misunderstood.
The three references for that first lede sentence confirm its other details, but make no mention of she herself being a painter.
My French (learned over 50 years ago and little used since) is not great, but as far as I can tell her article in the French Wikipedia does not describe her (as opposed to others in her family) as a painter. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.64.108 (talk) 01:19, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The caption to her photo in the infobox says she was notable for "Painting, printmaking, drawing", but again, there is no mention of any such things in the article. As it stands now, nothing in the article suggests to me that she is wiki-notable at all. Being the daughter and spouse of notables does not confer notability. -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:51, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose the circumstances of her execution are somewhat unusual and, therefore, interesting: executed by Republican revolutionaries for nicking candles from a Royal palace? And she is written about with more than passing mentions in reliable sources. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.2.64.108 (talk) 20:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An early version of famous for being famous, perhaps? -- Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 19:54, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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