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March 8

Geo. J. C. Broom, A.I.C.E.

This 1878 work, "Rainfall at Wolverhampton", is signed "Geo. J. C. Broom, A.I.C.E."

  1. What is "A.I.C.E."? Is it Associate of the Institution of Civil Engineers (nowadays known as "AMICE")? (Presumably not Advanced International Certificate of Education, though that article does not mention a start date, and should)
  2. Who was Geo. J. C. Broom? Was he the same George J. C. Broom M.I.C.E., who was Borough Engineer of St. Helens, Lancashire, in 1895?

Any other biographical facts also welcome. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 18:48, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

A.I.C.E. would almost certainly be "Associate of the Institution of Civil Engineers". It seems that at the time, that acronym was given to junior engineers, while full members would use "M.I.C.E." (Member of the Institution of Civil Engineers). Given the timeline, I'd say it's most probable they are the same person. His full name was George James Cotton Broom, as seen here. MediaKyle (talk) 20:20, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
My experience with the Chartered Insurance Institute was that Associateship could be achieved by passing some difficult exams (I didn't!) and paying a subscription, but Membership was a whole different level. Alansplodge (talk) 21:27, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
And just to make it easy: The page from the 1922 Who's Who in Engineering that references Broom MediaKyle (talk) 20:25, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In 1883 he was Borough Surveyor at Dudley. At St Helens by 1885. DuncanHill (talk) 00:32, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Died Monday 10th June 1935, aged 80. Former St Helens Official - Death of Mr G. J. C. Broom. He had worked at Wolverhampton, Cardiff, and Dudley, before St Helens. Retired 1914. Did valuable service, secured the mansion and park known as Victoria Park, and the big Taylor Park, and laid out Thatto Heath Park. DuncanHill (talk) 00:45, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In 1890 he held the postnominal "F.G.S.". [1]  ​‑‑Lambiam 10:14, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In 1901 he donated 28 volumes of the Journal of the Geological Society to St Helens Free Libraries. DuncanHill (talk) 11:20, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks all, data now at George James Cottom Broom (Q133200542) (although some missing as my BNA subscription is awaiting renewal). His name is "Cottom Broom", not "Cotton Broom" (surely a Cotton Broom is a mop)? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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