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February 22
Field extension as quotient
Let be a field, (note: finitely many variables), and be a maximal ideal of . So is a field extension of . Is it necessarily an algebraic extension? Antendren (talk) 23:23, 22 February 2025 (UTC)
- Yes. Let be a generator of a transcendental extension of in . Then is a polynomial in the and the ideal generated by and is proper, i.e., is not maximal, contradiction. Tito Omburo (talk) 00:20, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Why is it proper? And how are you using that there are only finitely many variables, since it's not true otherwise?--Antendren (talk) 00:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal is proper because it does not contain F (x is transcendental over F). Are you certain it's not true for infinitely many variables? Tito Omburo (talk) 00:45, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- I don't see why x being transcendental makes the ideal proper. Could you give the details?
- Yes, it's not true for infinitely many variables. Let , let be an extension by a single transcendental element, and let list the elements of K. Define a homomorphism from to by , and let M be the kernel.
- Note that in this case, some corresponds to a transcendental element, and some corresponds to its inverse, so contains , meaning that isn't proper.Antendren (talk) 00:59, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- The ideal is proper because it does not contain F (x is transcendental over F). Are you certain it's not true for infinitely many variables? Tito Omburo (talk) 00:45, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
- Why is it proper? And how are you using that there are only finitely many variables, since it's not true otherwise?--Antendren (talk) 00:31, 23 February 2025 (UTC)
To ask this question another way: Suppose is a transcendental extension of . As a vector space, is not finitely generated over . As a field, it might be (over ). What about as a ring?--Antendren (talk) 11:09, 24 February 2025 (UTC)
- For anyone curious, it turns out the answer was Zariski's lemma.--Antendren (talk) 04:12, 5 March 2025 (UTC)