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February 9
Simple question, let’s take a semiprime
.
I want to find a number
such as x×i is perfect square (the square root is an integer) but the resulting square is small than
2A01:E0A:401:A7C0:9407:59CB:EFF:777C (talk) 20:36, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- Is this a joke? If a square has a prime factor
, it is divisible by
If it has distinct prime factors
, it is divisible by the lcm of
, which, since all these are co-prime, equals
So a square that is a multiple of
is a multiple of
‑‑Lambiam 21:35, 9 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
- IP, I don't know if you're still looking for an answer, but this is only possible for some numbers i. I'll start with a few examples before trying to discuss the general case.
- First example: suppose i = 12. The prime factorization is 12 = 2x2x3 =
. Notice that 2 is raised to an even power, but 3 is raised to an odd power. Since you're looking for x such that (x)(2^2)(3) is a perfect square, each prime in the the prime factorization of (x)(i) must be raised to an even power. In this case, if x=3, then (x)(i) =
= 36, which is a perfect square that's smaller than
= 144. - Second example: suppose i = 216. The prime factorization is 216 = 2x2x2x3x3x3 =
. Notice that both 2 and 3 are raised to an odd power this time. Since you're looking for x such that (x)
is a perfect square, one way for that to occur is if you let x=(2)(3), in which case (x)(i) =
, which is a perfect square that's smaller than
. Another way for this to occur is if you let x =
, in which case (x)(i) =
, which is again smaller than
, and similarly if you let x =
. - Third example: suppose i = 100. The prime factorization is 100 = 2x2x5x5 =
. Notice that both 2 and 5 are raised to an even power this time. Since you're looking for x such that (x)
is a perfect square, one way for that to occur is if you let x=
, in which case (x)(i) =
, which is a perfect square that's smaller than
. Another way for this to occur is if you let x =
, in which case (x)(i) =
, which is again smaller than
, and yet another way is if you let x =
, in which case (x)(i) =
, which is again smaller than
. - Fourth example: suppose i = 30. The prime factorization is 30 = 2x3x5, where each prime is raised to an odd number, and all of the powers are equal to 1. The problem in this example is that the smallest x such that (x)(i) is a perfect square is x = (2)(3)(5). But in this case (x)(i) =
, so there is no x that satisfies your condition of (x)(i) being smaller than
.
- Hopefully you can now move to the general case, where the prime factorization is i = p1a1p2a2...pnan. If all of the
are equal to 1, there is no x that satisfies your condition. If one or more of the
are greater than 1, then you choose x such that all of the primes in the the prime factorization of (x)(i) will be raised to an even power. The smallest x will be the product of the primes in the prime factorization of i that are raised to an odd power (e.g., if i = p1a1p2a2...pnan, and
, and
are all of the odd powers, then the smallest x is x =
, and you'll also be able to find some other values for x by multiplying that smallest value by a small perfect square). FactOrOpinion (talk) 20:59, 16 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]- Note, though, that this implies that
is not a semiprime as supposed in the question. ‑‑Lambiam 04:14, 17 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]- You're right, I missed that
is a semiprime. I also missed the trivial solution
= 0. If we add the constraint that
must be positive, then
exists iff
=
for a prime
> 2. Just let
=
for any whole number
with 0 <
<
. FactOrOpinion (talk) 03:35, 18 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]