ok, I rewrote the wikipedia template to fix the problem. I'll get to the commons template tomorrow. I'll also probably add an 'undeclared' page that will collect any arbitrary categories that people use in the future. --Ludwigs203:35, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
I would just like to draw your attention to my proposal for a new usercheck template over at WP:VPR. If anyone could improve my template and / or add to it, then that would be very much appreciated. It Is Me Here (talk) 07:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Logo rationale
Template:Logo rationale currently refers to a "company" at multiple points in its text. This template is equally applicable, and is applied to, non-commercial organisations. Would it be possible to build in a means of selecting a term for the entity in question, for example: (a) company, (an) organisation and applying it throughout? It might be better to default to organisation, the more general term. Globbet (talk) 22:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Done. I have added a parameter called "type", which can be used to change to something other than company. If you would like to change the default, the edit should be easy enough for you to make. Adam McCormick (talk) 00:00, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I've been trying to create my own userboxes, and it's damn near impossible for me because I am new here and therefore know very little about making userboxes. I've so far been able to use only one existing userbox (a babel). Could someone please show me how to create userboxes? The one I want to make is an Evanesence box, and I want to customize my text. Something like "this user enjoys Lithium and wants to stay in love with her sorrow". Please get back to me on my talk page, whoever is willing to help me. Thank you. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 23:41, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
have you read through here Wikipedia:Userbox#Creating_a_new_userbox? this page is really for functional templates (rather than personal ones), but if you read through the above and are still having trouble, please leave a note on my talk page and I'll be happy to help you. --Ludwigs201:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Some or all images in this article are candidates to be copied to the Wikimedia Commons.
Appropriately licensed media are more accessible to other Wikimedia projects and browsers in general if placed on Commons. Any logged in user may move the image(s) - see Moving images to the Commons (CommonsHelper) for more information. If appropriate, a new category/gallery could be created as well. Please do not remove this template until all the images have been moved to the Commons.
well, if you have an article 'X' with multiple images that are not part of the Commons, it would seem more reasonable to place individual tags on each image pages, rather than place a collective tag on the article 'X' page. less confusion that way about which images should get moved. I'm not certain that a new template would add anything useful here. can you point to the page where you think it would be useful? --Ludwigs221:49, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
It would be useful on any of the many pages where there are a lot of images that should be at Commons that aren't. It both saves placing it on each individual image, and makes it more visible (that they should be moved is not otherwise clear without viewing the image pages themselves, which people often don't). Richard001 (talk) 03:08, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
My biggest concern would be that the tag wouldn't likely be seen by the sort of people who knew how to fix the issue. At least by tagging the individual images, they can be categorized and thereby found, but I wholeheartedly disagree with tagging an article with such a template. You could have a featured article with such images and tagging one of those would not be advisable. I suppose the question is "How do you see such a tag working?" I personally don't see it as a good idea. Adam McCormick (talk) 22:48, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Anybody with an account can fix the issue, though being familiar with Commons and the CommonsHelper would help. Talk pages could also be categorized and thereby found, though I think they are a lot more likely to be noticed on a talk page than at some obscure category. Tagging a featured article would be great; the real question is why it was allowed to become featured in the first place with such a glaring issue. But, if people don't like the idea, I guess I can get by. Richard001 (talk) 07:48, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
well, the advantage of tagging each individual image is that each image is then added to the appropriate category, where it will be seen by people who are likely to be looking for images to copy to commons. however, what we could do is create a subcategory of Category:Copy to Wikimedia Commons called category:articles with multiple images for transfer to commons, and then make a template with no display, that only adds the article to that category, like this User:Ludwigs2/:sandbox. would that work? --Ludwigs202:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
Why would you not want to display it? This is something that would go on a talk page, something editors should see. Not displaying defeats the purpose of using it.
Another possibility/alternative is a template that says 'a page (category or gallery) on this subject should be created at Commons'. It is a fairly different sort of request, though it overlaps a little with the above one. For example, Omana Regional Park wouldn't be suitable because there is already a Commons category that I created - it just needs to have many more images moved there. However, for Mount Ophir a commons page would be suitable, as well as a 'move images to commons' one. And some may already have all their images at Commons, but there may still be no page (category/gallery) there. I don't know if we need to create both of these templates, but it would be nice if at least one was available. Richard001 (talk) 10:29, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello everyone, so I'm thinking of created Template:expand-in ([Expand sentence] or [Expand]) for specific sentenes (or perhaps multi-sentence phrases) that need to be expanded. I realize this would not be as popular as Template:Expand, but I'm thinking it could still come in use enough that it might be worth having; I'd just like to get some second opinions before I create it. Any thoughts?--danielfolsom18:12, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Can anyone whip up a template along the lines of {{lowercase}} and other title-transforming utilities to allow articles titled with a binomial species name to have their headings italicised, as Wikipedia is careful to do with occurences of binomial names in the text of articles themselves? This has been raised previously at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (technical restrictions) and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Biology. Is this technically possible? If a template could be created I should think it would be quite easy to request a bot to go through all the many thousands of affected articles to insert the template. It seems a shame when you look at articles like Acer rubrum and care has been taken throughout to italicise the name, but the heading is out of reach. This sticks out like a sore thumb to biologists. 85.189.221.65 (talk) 11:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Ok. after some investigation, I'm pretty sure this issue is not resolvable without some modifications to wikipedia's basic workings. the problem is that the only access we get to the page title is through the DISPLAYTITLE magic word, and that only works if the new title is practically identical to the old title. adding wikitext or html italics, or span elements, or somesuch, craps out DISPLAYTITLE.
that being said, it shouldn't be too difficult to modify the code for DISPLAYTITLE so that it distinguishes between formatting and text elements. I'll take a look for the code myself, but you might want to put this request up at wp:village pump (technical) where the real wikigurus might see it. it's kind of out of my league. --Ludwigs218:50, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
over at the wp:village pump (technical) I found a solution - see {{wrongtitle}} which will allow you to italicize the title. there is some concern about whether italics in titles are appropriate, and it apparently needs javascript to be enabled for it to work, but... --Ludwigs221:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
Singaporean actor and/or singer
I think it's time we made the template Singaporean actor and/or singer. The existing actor infoboxes don't state the fields we need, for example: the Star Awards field and others. Please give your opinions below under the headings. Paul 1953 (talk) 11:03, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Make it
Scrap it
Expert needed template
Thanks for recently doing work to update the Template:Expert-subject into Template:Expert-subject-multiple in orer to allow several projects and portals to be suggested at the same time, but this time this recent update appears to require yet another expansion: The ability to add specific articles as well, as currently two different templates are needed, one to request experts from projects and portals, and another regarding experts in certain articles relating to Nikola Tesla, his life and theories, a situation I stumbled upon here: Wardenclyffe Tower (the latter, custom-made template was copied from the talkpage where it's obviously been residing for quite some time). --80.187.125.4 (talk) 20:49, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Collapsible table rows
I know there are collapsible tables already, but collapsible rows would be great for sifting through comparison tables when one selects an item based on a list of requirements and needs to easily weed out candidates as they fail the requirements. Dandv (talk) 06:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Current squad / navbox
Please could someone help me to work out a way of combining the current squad and the navbox on Association football pages, I have asked a couple of experienced editors directly, at Wikiproject football but apart from a few positive comments and an unsuccessful attempt to help I got nowhere. I tried the village pump and got girected here.
Using Arsenal de Sarandí as an example the proposal is that since the navbox and current squad display almost exactly the same information, using almost the same code:
So that it displays something similar to the current squad when transcribed like {{Arsenal de Sarandí squad|teamarticle=yes}} (changed slightly to give the [v] [d] [e] functions to allow the transcluded squad to be easily modified from the team article and a "last updated" header). There are several reasons this would be beneficial I will outline some of them:
Keeping similar information in the same place and avoiding repetition makes sense for obvious reasons.
Casual editors often edit one or the other, rarely both, meaning that the 2 ways of displaying the squads often contain contradictory information, combining the functions would make this kind of contradiction impossible.
Editors like myself who spend/waste our time updating player and team articles during the transfer window currently have to make at least 5 edits per player transfer (1. Update player article 2. Remove player from former team article 3. Remove player from former team navbox 4. Place player into new team article 5. Place player into new team navbox) combining the current squad and the navbox would reduce this to three edits, reducing transfer window workload by 40%, (which is a lot of edits considering in just one league (Primera División Argentina) the clubs amassed nearly 300 transfers in the most recent bi-annual transfer frenzy).
Introducing a "last updated" parameter would make it easier to search out and update outdated squad information.
I would be immensely grateful if someone could help me with this as it would save myself and other football editors hundreds of hours by cutting the number of repetitive edits and checks that two squad displays are not contradictory for hundreds of teams. Feel free to contact me on my talkpage. Regards EP23:29, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I think this is what you wanted. It would allow the current football squad templates, which are navigation boxes designed for transclusion in player articles, to be modified show they could also output a list format for transclusion in team articles. Here's an example of how it will work:
'center' is not a valid argument for float (it takes left, right, and none). there are other tricks to use for centering elements, but which to use depends on the page context. --Ludwigs203:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Would it be possible to have the ubx float left and then if a parameter was put in it would center? Floating right wouldn't be necessary. §hep • ¡Talk to me!03:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
well, yeah, anything's possible. it's just a question of how much complexity you want to put into the template. making something 'float center' is actually a fairly strange request (since it would imply that surrounding text wrap around the element on both sides). that would take some tricky CSS which I'd have to think about. if you just want the element to center on the page, you could use parserfunctions so that if the 'float' parameter is set it adds a float style element, but if the 'float' parameter isn't set it sets the left and right margins of the element to 'auto' (which effectively centers the element). the main question I'd have on this, though, is 'do you really want to do that?' not many people are going to want to center a userbox like this on their page, and if you just want it for your page, that's easier to accomplish by other means. --Ludwigs204:13, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
Scratch my request. It's just for the main page on WP:OH. I'll strip the code that forces it left on that page alone and just add
I am currently working on Template:User GCSE results, which should, in theory, display someone's GCSE results with the markup {{User GCSE results|2|6|0|0|0|1|2|0|1}} or something similar. However, the template does not display in most cases at the moment, and once it has been fixed in its present form, I would like to expand it to not show anything for a 0 (e.g. to skip D grades if someone did not get any; this would also mean that the position of commas and the word "and" would have to change) and to remove the "s" if they only got one of a particular type of grade. If anyone could provide any assistance with this template, it would be very much appreciated. Moreover, once I have figured out how to make this template work, I will be able to adapt its code for other, similar templates related to different examinations. It Is Me Here (talk) 21:17, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Eh, well... what you asked was actually fairly tricky: I had to write a new template for it just to get the correct grammar structure. you might actually get it to look better if you use a table with conditional rows (one column for each grade) rather than a simple sentence. --Ludwigs219:06, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
{{todo}} seems to bother some people when the to-do list is quite long and they have to scroll down to see the actual talk page. Would someone be able to modify it so that it is expandable/hideable? Either it would be hidden by default, or you would have the option of hiding/showing it when it was used, e.g. {{to do|hidden=yes}}. Basically it would just be like the navigation templates that can be hidden; the actual list of things to do would be the part that was hidden. Richard001 (talk) 00:23, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
I've been playing with it a bit, and it's a tad difficult without changing the look of the messagebox (because of the way the software handles collapsible tables, and the way the todo box is structured). I'll try a bit more, though, and we'll see.--Ludwigs204:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
ok, I've made revisions here User:Ludwigs2/:test, and I'll propose making the change on the todo list talk page. --Ludwigs204:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
WikiProject quality count
I was wondering if there was a template which would create something like this for the various WikiProjects. It might be useful for projects to see at a glance how many of each type of article there is. If this doesn't exist yet, I might have a go at programming it. MSGJ14:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, that's useful and I didn't know about it. The only advantage of mine is that it updates automatically when the page is purged and doesn't need a bot ;) MSGJ17:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
Short of Breath Band
Classic rock and blues band from Graham, Texas. Classic rock and blues band from Graham, Texas Comprised of Tom Patrick ,Bass Guitar , Al Upchurch, Lead Guitar and Vocals, Ron Henery, Drums. Formed in 1995 as a grage band quickly became a sensation in the young county are of texas.
Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. --—— Gadget850 (Ed)talk - 17:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I've made some templates: User:Msgj/ISOtoYEAR, User:Msgj/ISOtoMONTH, User:Msgj/ISOtoDAY, etc. So for example, {{User:Msgj/ISOtoYEAR|20250511170758}} produces User:Msgj/ISOtoYEAR and {{User:Msgj/ISOtoMONTH|20250511170758}} produces User:Msgj/ISOtoMONTH. What do you think? If these are performing a function which no other template does, then I'll put them into template space. MSGJ19:07, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
PS, I'm not sure why these templates say Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{" even though they seem to work fine. MSGJ19:08, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
I have not looked at this particular template, but such "errors" are quite normal when the template is parsed without "mandatory" parameters being provided. The wiki parser will replace an uninstantiated parameter with, for example the text {{{parameter}}}, and if this parameter was in for example an {{#expr: . . .}} or {{#ifexpr: . . .}} then the expression parser tries to interpret the "{"s, etc., as part of the expression, which is not valid expression syntax . . . As soon as a pararmeter is provided, the syntax is correct and it works fine. Peet Ern (talk) 02:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Taxobox
Can someone alter {{taxobox}} so that "image caption" works as well as "image_caption"? Little technicalities like that aren't really something we want people to have to remember - I presume you can have two different names for the same parameter? Richard001 (talk) 20:27, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
I could do this, but it will be at least 2 probably 3 months before I can get to it . . . and as a protect template it will definitely require some explicit concensus for it to happen at all. Will it be worth the wait? Peet Ern (talk) 02:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Request memorial template with graphic if possible to make possible to produce disaster and war epitath in a respectable manner. Idea is to produce a section with the appearance of a headstone or such. ~ R.T.G14:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
is anyone aware of a template that calculates future and elapsed time (T+/T-) rendered: xx years, xx months, xx days. my first choice was {{For year month day}}, however, it apparently cannot handle the future. --emerson703:35, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
The {{Tel Project}} template, which is the WikiProject Telecommunications template for article talk pages, does not support class parameters. Would someone modify it so that it does (and so that it supports other standard WikiProject talk page template parameters, if that's not much additional work, though I'm primarily interested in the "class" parameter). Thanks! -- John Broughton(♫♫)14:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Hi, Maybe it yet exist, but I'm looking for a template that can calculate the time between two dates in years, months and days.
Example : {{duration|2005|1|31|2008|10|3}} will show : 3 years, 8 months and 4 days.
If it not exist, I understand that it could be a lot of work (especially with the variation of the number of days in a month), but it could be really usefull. Thank you very much. --Riba-- (talk) 03:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I think this might be what you want, {{User:Chandler/Sandbox5|2005|1|31|2008|10|3}} produces [[{{{alias}}} {{{altlink}}}|{{{alias}}}]], I've only used it myself for fun to count down to big sport events on my user page. If I remember correctly I used some template that calculated the age, but with precise dates (as the age templates only gave days and months when the person was under 12 months or something)... I could move this out into the open, perhaps {{duration}}, though that you've countedd to 4 days and mine template only to 3... don't know if that's a mistake somewhere or has something to do with leap years?... {{User:Chandler/Sandbox5|2009|1|14|2009|1|15}} gives [[{{{alias}}} {{{altlink}}}|{{{alias}}}]], so it doesn't count the days between the dates, so to speak, but "from this day, how many days until this other day"... And right now it doesn't seem to be able to recognize the difference between 30 or 31 day months, see [[{{{alias}}} {{{altlink}}}|{{{alias}}}]] [[{{{alias}}} {{{altlink}}}|{{{alias}}}]] — CHANDLER#10 — 20:11, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I know there already exists a template 32TeamBracket-Compact-Noseeds-Byes, but what I'd like is to be able to have byes in more than just the first round. This can already be done with 16TeamBracket-Compact-Noseeds-Byes where any game (except the final) can be removed to create a bye, and similar functionality for the 32 team version of the same thing would be helpful. Budd2049 (talk) 15:04, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
Current Software Development Template
Resolved
I would like to request a "current software" template(for software in alpha or beta stages).I'm looking to add one to the Office Live Workspace article. Currently, there is only a {{future software}} template, but nothing for a current or a "in beta" template. Where could I request that such a template be made?Smallman12q (talk) 01:58, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
I would like to request a "Wikipedia Challenges template". One for the article namespace, and the other for the talk page. It should go something like "This article is currently a Wikipedia Challenge, please help expand it.". The talk page one would go such as "This article was a Wikipedia challenge from date 1 to date 2".Smallman12q (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
I'm looking for a userbox in the religion category that says "This user is a Creator", preferably with the insignia of the Creativity Movement as the icon. -scochran4 (talk) 04:46, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Please read the top of this page (third paragraph) where it talks about userboxes. let us know if you need help. --Ludwigs204:58, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
“ The crown at the base of the shield is the emblem of the Saints, along with the gold cross, symbolises the town's historic connection with Paulinus and the Archbishop of York. The wheat sheaves note Pocklington's agricultural importance and the water lily the famous lily lakes at Burnby Hall Gardens. ”
Now there are some problems here. Firstly, these assertions are almost always given without citations. On a deeper level, there is a general misconception, I think, that a certain charge usually has a particular meaning-- that lions mean courage, say, or even that a noticeably blue coat of arms always means something about the original armiger. This is untrue. It may be true that a pelican, a self-sacrificing bird in mythology, is in someone's arms because the original armiger was noted for being particularly self-sacrificing; it could also be because the armiger had a particular devotion to the Atonement; it could also be because he liked pelicans. If you can't ask the herald who granted the arms, you can't know.
In Pocklington's case, the arms were only granted 28 years ago, so the people actually involved in the design (or some documents written by them) may survive to this day, but some of these fanciful interpretations concern arms which are hundreds of years old. Would it be a good plan to have a tag, like {{armsinterpretationcruft}} or something, to mark these with so that people are made to find reliable sources or delete them?"
I want to echo what was said there: we need a section template that says, "What's the source for these claims of symbolism?" and shows a proper skepticism towards such allegations. Ideally, it should include a link to the Project's page, where such claims can be properly examined. --Orange Mike | Talk17:47, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
:) So tell me exactly what you want the message to say, and whether you want an image included as well, and I'll do it for you. Martinmsgj22:25, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
UEFA CL Qualification Rounds
Having just seen the wall of text that attempts to explain the qualification rounds for the UEFA Champions League, I thought it would be much easier to represent this visually via a tournament template (similar to ones I have seen used for playoffs and knockout tournaments). I've tried playing around with existing templates (in a sandbox, of course!) and configuring them to what I was looking for, but to no avail (it's beyond me!). So I've had to resort to asking for help!
What I'm Looking For Two templates, as there are two separate paths. As new teams are introduced in most rounds, ideally the line from one round to the next round would point to the "block" containing the previous round's winners. See this image I bodged together for details. If the template has options for entering the text at each stage, I can take care of inserting the text afterwards - I just need help in creating the main template first! Since each box would contain explanatory text and not just a team name, the boxes would have to be slightly larger than normal, even when using a reduced font inside.
that would be doable with a little css. though if there's any significant amount of text that you want to go into the boxes, there might be issues with how much horizontal space the template takes up. doubling the width of the boxes in your example would not allow a lot of room for text but would still (probably) be too large to fit on a conventional browser without scrolling. can you give me a sense for what typically might go into a box? --Ludwigs203:47, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
No, actually - there will be up to 31 teams, and I wasn't planning on listing all of them in the small box! If I put a general description in the box, e.g. "9 2nd Placed Finishers, Associations 7-15", and then list the teams below, it makes it a hell of a lot clearer on the visuals. If each box were to have two lines of text in I think it would be fine - the first line can have the number of teams and where they were from (League Champions, Winners of previous round, etc...), with the second line having the ranking of the Associations they qualified from (e.g. Associations 16-47). Paddyohale (talk) 20:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Ok, here's a rough mockup of the first template in userspace. User:Ludwigs2/:test2 the parameters available you can see (in the curly brackets). you can implement this using {{User:Ludwigs2/:test2|A1=something|A2=something|...}}. there's more that can be done (background and font colors, making the lines point to different cells, etc), so let's get those details straightened out before moving on to the next template. --Ludwigs205:58, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
P.s - also let me know if there's any canned text to add (for instance, it sounds like the second line is always going to read 'Associations ##-##', so I could change the template just to take the numbers.) --Ludwigs206:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Please read the top of this page (third paragraph) where it talks about userboxes. let us know if you need help. --Ludwigs203:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
seriously, though, I'm not sure what you're asking. the template {{fashionmodel}} exists already, and it's very simple (a link that takes some parameters and has some ancillary text). do you want a template that does the same thing for a different modeling agency, or do you want that template expanded so you can specify multiple agencies? or possibly something else...? it's not difficult to do, I just need some idea of what you're envisioning. --Ludwigs223:13, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
ok, I think the correct thing to do is to modify the fashionmodels template to accept different modeling agencies (that way it can be easily expanded if new agencies need to be added). give me a few minutes. --Ludwigs200:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
ok, done; I just added a 'site' parameter (that takes the name of the site (as of now models.com or fashion model directory). check it out - Missy Rayder at Fashion Model Directory. of course, there's no wikipedia page for models.com, so that redlinks. let me know if there are other tweaks you want. --Ludwigs200:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
I could, but that's getting a little more complex. the problem is that the {{fashionmodel}} template has what looks like a 3 or 4 hundred transclusions, none of which are set up for the multiple-directory mode (and some of which, I'm judging by the template, use an older form that had positional variables instead of named variables). trying to do this correctly either means a juggling act to keep transclusions from breaking all over the place, or means a bit of laborious work (or bot work) going back and editing all the transclusion pages. it would be best to think it out a bit. for instance, what other sites might you want on this list? what's the likelihood that a model will be on site A and site B but not on site C? how clean do you want the template to be. meaning, for instance, should it be set it up just to take the model's name and generate the different site ids (lotta work on the programming end) or do you want to make editors find the correct site ids themselves (less work on this end, more work on that). --Ludwigs201:30, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
In truth, I never intended for you to be working with the old template. I was looking for a new one all along. I am not an expert on models, but the three I know about are the two here and the New York Magazine one at her external links section. Her sister may have a few others because she is a more prominent model, but those three would be a good start. We could add new sites as they arise.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
ok, I've set up a version at {{modelref}}: basically you put in the model's name and their id's for various sites. read the docs, test it out and see if it's what you're looking for, or if there's any errors or anything you want changed. --Ludwigs214:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
ok, this edit should address both problems. if it doesn't, please give me a link to the entry that doesn't work (or copy the wikitext here) so that I can see the problem. that makes debugging easier. --Ludwigs208:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC)